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mike0615 10-19-2005 02:16 AM

whats RX8 top speed in 6th gear?
 
i thought my manual says that the car only goes up to 134 mph. how did this guy get his 8 to go to 184 mph before fuel cut off? is this fake video or something?

staticlag 10-19-2005 02:30 AM

What page does it say 134mph?

sixth gear is limited anyways. You can get up to 184mph by redlining it in 5th

Bough Achillus 10-19-2005 02:35 AM

Mine is a prototype, an it hit 206.9 mph. Then again its a prototype, so no big deal. Stock can get pretty high by "stock" standards. I raced a mustang stock an it wasn't as fast as I thought it would be.

Still, i love my RX-8, speeds differ, witch is no big deal.

Peace yall,

mike0615 10-19-2005 03:42 AM

opps, for got the video

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....BDF4&kw=11&p=1

carbonRX8 10-19-2005 06:25 AM

Car is drag limited to 150-55 on the flat and level at 0 elevation. Like on the z06 top speed will be easier to attain in 5th cause you will have more usable torque (at the wheels) in that gear. Cant do this in 4th cause it redlines at 130. No limiter cause we have tires that are rated above our drag limit. the TSR to 180 was real but on a dyno with (obviously) no drag. (on the same topic, there is a vid of a guy on a standard bicycle behind a drag racer, both doing 150. Normally, guys on standard bikes are draglimited to 40 on the flat.)


Originally Posted by Bough Achillus
Mine is a prototype, an it hit 206.9 mph. Then again its a prototype, so no big deal.

Yeah, a prototype turbo'ed hayabusa with a mod'ed trannie :rolleyes:

Tirminyl 10-19-2005 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by mike0615
i thought my manual says that the car only goes up to 134 mph. how did this guy get his 8 to go to 184 mph before fuel cut off? is this fake video or something?

Uh, the description of the video says "CAR DYNO".

Glyphon 10-19-2005 10:32 AM

i believe the AT are electronically limited to either 125 or 135 (can't remember which), but the MT are not limited...the top speed is drag limited, meaning the car doesn't produce enough power to exceed that speed, which ends up being ~155, as mentioned above.

as geared, here are the theortical speeds in 6th...
176mph @ 8500rpm
181mph @ 8750rpm
186mph @ 9000rpm
191mph @ 9250rpm
196mph @ 9500rpm (fuel cutoff)

dmp 10-19-2005 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by staticlag
What page does it say 134mph?

sixth gear is limited anyways. You can get up to 184mph by redlining it in 5th


Untrue - 5th gear tops out, redline, about 155mph.

6th gear is 'not' limted - at least not electronically. On the streets? this car would be lucky to see 140-145mph I'd guess.

dmp 10-19-2005 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by mike0615
i thought my manual says that the car only goes up to 134 mph. how did this guy get his 8 to go to 184 mph before fuel cut off? is this fake video or something?


Other guys w/ rx8's saw 185mph...before fuel cut. "this guy" (me) just floored the damn car, and that's how fast the dyno got to. :)

alnielsen 10-19-2005 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by dmp
Untrue - 5th gear tops out, redline, about 155mph.

6th gear is 'not' limted - at least not electronically. On the streets? this car would be lucky to see 140-145mph I'd guess.

A member in Germany with a US spec car reached 155 mph on the autobaun. This was in a post about a year ago.

dmp 10-19-2005 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by alnielsen
A member in Germany with a US spec car reached 155 mph on the autobaun. This was in a post about a year ago.


cool. :) Twood be nice if we'd adopt german traffic laws...(sigh)...off topic, I know.

:D

Y&Y 10-19-2005 11:34 AM

I wonder if its possible to reduce drag by putting something on the front bumper to redirect some of that air. Something small of course, don't wanna rice out the 8. :eek:

Brice-RX8 10-19-2005 11:39 AM

You could always do like NASCAR and tape some of the front up with 200mph duct tape :). BTW my car has seen 140mph and only took it about a mile to get there if I recall.

carbonRX8 10-19-2005 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Y&Y
I wonder if its possible to reduce drag by putting something on the front bumper to redirect some of that air. Something small of course, don't wanna rice out the 8.

Yeah. Stick a Turbonator right on the hood above the "winged M". That will smooth out airflow, provide a "ram-air" effect for the intake, put chocolate on your pillow at night, and increase top-speed to the "as-advertized' 184 mph.

Q-chan 10-19-2005 12:28 PM

Hm, out of curiosity....

Anybody knows what the top speed of a chasing police cruiser is? :rolleyes:

Living here for fife years now, but still missing the Autobahn... In particular
since I have my RX-8....

Glyphon 10-19-2005 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by Q-chan
Hm, out of curiosity....

Anybody knows what the top speed of a chasing police cruiser is? :rolleyes:

Living here for fife years now, but still missing the Autobahn... In particular
since I have my RX-8....

police cruisers

crown vic: 0-60 in 8.7 top end 129.
impala: 0-60 in 9.2 top end 124
intrepid: 0-60 in 8.7 top end 135
camaro: 0-60 in 5.7 top end 159

but remember, they are likely better drivers than you, there are more of them than you, you can't out run radio, and there always the helicopter. so don't go getting any bright idea. and by bright idea, i mean extremely stupid. ;) :p :D

KYLiquid 10-19-2005 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by Glyphon
police cruisers

crown vic: 0-60 in 8.7 top end 129.
impala: 0-60 in 9.2 top end 124
intrepid: 0-60 in 8.7 top end 135
camaro: 0-60 in 5.7 top end 159

but remember, they are likely better drivers than you, there are more of them than you, you can't out run radio, and there always the helicopter. so don't go getting any bright idea. and by bright idea, i mean extremely stupid. ;) :p :D

So are those with or without light bars? Some of the light bars, even the low profile ones make a huge ammount of drag, esp. at speed

Glyphon 10-19-2005 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by KYLiquid
So are those with or without light bars? Some of the light bars, even the low profile ones make a huge ammount of drag, esp. at speed

the article that i got those from didn't say. but from what i understand, its more of a weight issue than aerodynamic. most of the cruisers top 4000lbs, and don't get much of an engine upgrade to compensate.

KYLiquid 10-19-2005 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by Glyphon
the article that i got those from didn't say. but from what i understand, its more of a weight issue than aerodynamic. most of the cruisers top 4000lbs, and don't get much of an engine upgrade to compensate.


well the only way weight cant affect a cars top speed would be if the weight lowered the car, or made one end (trunk for example) lower/higher than another end, that would end up affecting the aero dynamics.

So for all practical talk, weight doenst matter in top speed, only how long it takes to get to top speed (accel.)

You are right all police cars are heavy, the standard outfit or radios, lights, equiptment is 500lbs, most of those cars are already around 3500 so with an officer and fully toped off, over 4000k isnt suprising. Thats what makes it even more amazing when you see a crown vic rocket away from a light, or fly around the corner, that bitch is 2 tons!!! :eek:

Anyway, the only thing that affects top speed of anything, is power, gearing and drag.

Of those cars you listed the camaro is obviously the 'slickest' shape, so it would have the least drag. also has the most power, and probably the least equiptment inside, since its just a chase car most of the time.

I have heard figures that those light bars, the big ones, slow the top speed of a cruiser down by about 20-30 mph, and the smaller ones are closer to 15-20mph slower. It adds a lot of drag. So does the spot light and push bars at the front.

Now I know first had that a crown vic, at least the ones the dallas PD had, can go at least 122mph. So with the figure i mentioned, its top speed should be around 137-142mph, since it had the low profile light bar.

also as long as were talking about aerodynamics, you see the 'coeficent of drag' mentioned a lot with sports car, one thing to note is that most companys test the car WITHOUT side mirrors as they MAJORLY disrupt air flow.

BlueEyes 10-19-2005 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by dmp
cool. :) Twood be nice if we'd adopt german traffic laws...(sigh)...off topic, I know.

:D

We'd have to adopt german liscencing practices too! :D
less retards with liscences is always a good thing.

1.3L 10-19-2005 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by mike0615
i thought my manual says that the car only goes up to 134 mph. how did this guy get his 8 to go to 184 mph before fuel cut off? is this fake video or something?

I believe Mazda states the 6 speed manual tranny model is electronically (governor) limited to 148 MPH. I've seen this figure published in several popular car magazine reviews also. Car and Driver states slightly less in their long-term test of the RX-8. Also, I think whatever the top speed happens to be, it is reached in 5th gear.

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=4

1.3L

Slick8 10-19-2005 08:29 PM

can't get past 138mph. maybe wind resistance or governor?

StealthTL 10-19-2005 09:01 PM

Top........
 
Top speed last year (on a runway), was 146mph, this year I repeated the test, could only get 142mph, only difference was 89 octane fuel this year..... :o last year had 93 octane.

Unless you have some major mods (F.I.) you will use fifth as your top gear, sixth just loses speed back to the 130's. :(

S

AQA101 10-20-2005 12:03 AM


Originally Posted by alnielsen
A member in Germany with a US spec car reached 155 mph on the autobaun. This was in a post about a year ago.

The autobahn certainly helps to find out about top speed. ;)

So far I reached 157 in sixth and 156 in fifth. It takes some patience though, there's not much acceleration above 145 mph. Often the car tops out around 150 in sixth, probably depending on enviromental factors such as wind and temperature.

Brice-RX8 10-20-2005 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by AQA101
The autobahn certainly helps to find out about top speed. ;)

So far I reached 157 in sixth and 156 in fifth. It takes some patience though, there's not much acceleration above 145 mph. Often the car tops out around 150 in sixth, probably depending on enviromental factors such as wind and temperature.

What kind of cruising gas mileage do you get at that speed? LOL

Glyphon 10-20-2005 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by 1.3L
I believe Mazda states the 6 speed manual tranny model is electronically (governor) limited to 148 MPH. I've seen this figure published in several popular car magazine reviews also. Car and Driver states slightly less in their long-term test of the RX-8. Also, I think whatever the top speed happens to be, it is reached in 5th gear.

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=4

1.3L

top speed is reached in 5th, but there isn't an electronic governor on the 6mt, and your link contradicts your claim. it says "drag limited" next to the top speeds ;)

Aseras 10-20-2005 03:09 PM

I've gotten mine in perfect conditions to 167 at night. slight downhill, slight tailwind.. cold 2am at night. straight line. 5th topped out at 154 . after 140+ it was crawling.. maybe 1 mph per 2-3 seconds... now figure you are going 200-250 feet a second. it took nearly a mile to go from 150 to 160.

juikster 10-20-2005 04:46 PM

I did 159, but on the long stretch of unpopulated highway. some tailights up in the distance was coming up really fast so I started backing down from my climb. when I started to creap up to those rear lights at around 75 mph, crap, to my surprise it was a Tx.state trooper but what really shocked my world (and he had to have seen me coming up on him mighty fast)was he was tailing another vehicle,I presume for some distance back. anyways ,he popped on his lights to pull that person over as I casually came on around them . Gave them some distance an punched my 8 back to life......but 159 is going to be that,I figure why try to top that,hell I never been 159 and to go beyond that, even when the friggin tach said "HEY BUD,WE AIN'T THERE YET" seems pointless. all I know was when they say the road in front starts to close in from the sides, they were not lying :crazy:

bgreene 10-20-2005 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by Q-chan
Hm, out of curiosity....

Anybody knows what the top speed of a chasing police cruiser is? :rolleyes:

Living here for fife years now, but still missing the Autobahn... In particular
since I have my RX-8....

speed on the cruiser will vary with the equipment of your local law enforcement,

the radios all go 186,000 miles/sec, though....

1.3L 10-20-2005 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by Glyphon
top speed is reached in 5th, but there isn't an electronic governor on the 6mt, and your link contradicts your claim. it says "drag limited" next to the top speeds ;)

Who says there's no governor? I've read many road tests that state the top speed of the 6-speed MT is limited to 148 MPH by an "electronic governor." And just because the governor is there doesn't necessarily mean the car will go that fast, as evidenced by Car & Drivers experience, but they got very close. 146 was it?. Heck the altitude and temperature of the day could've accounted for the 2 MPH shortfall.

And please note, I didn't claim the MT RX-8 would go 148 MPH; I just stated that it was electronically limited to 148 MPH.

1.3L

therm8 10-20-2005 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by Q-chan
Hm, out of curiosity....
Anybody knows what the top speed of a chasing police cruiser is? :rolleyes:

Well, Interceptor Camaros are electronically limited to 159mph. But they'll get there significantly faster than the 8 :p:

mamccubbin 10-20-2005 10:21 PM

Alright, I am prepared for the replies that tell me to shut up and what not, but here goes.

Those of you who are doing 150 on ANY public road, no matter the time or the condtions are putting other peoples lives at risk. No better than driving drunk at 60 mph. Find a track day and have some fun that way.

Just one driver's opinion.

HIX8 10-20-2005 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by mamccubbin
Alright, I am prepared for the replies that tell me to shut up and what not, but here goes.

Those of you who are doing 150 on ANY public road, no matter the time or the condtions are putting other peoples lives at risk. No better than driving drunk at 60 mph. Find a track day and have some fun that way.

Just one driver's opinion.

I'm not quite following your logic here.

If a solo driver decides to go warp snot in their 8 on a desolate road with no one around for miles, one can conclude that no one else's lives are being placed at risk.

mamccubbin 10-20-2005 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by HIX8
I'm not quite following your logic here.

If a solo driver decides to go warp snot in their 8 on a desolate road with no one around for miles, one can conclude that no one else's lives are being placed at risk.

If you are doing 150 even on a straight highway, you can creep up on other cars a lot quicker than you might think. Day or night. And other cars or pedestrians aren't usually on the lookout for a car going more than double the speed limit.

Aseras 10-20-2005 11:16 PM


Originally Posted by Glyphon
police cruisers

crown vic: 0-60 in 8.7 top end 129.
impala: 0-60 in 9.2 top end 124
intrepid: 0-60 in 8.7 top end 135
camaro: 0-60 in 5.7 top end 159

but remember, they are likely better drivers than you, there are more of them than you, you can't out run radio, and there always the helicopter. so don't go getting any bright idea. and by bright idea, i mean extremely stupid. ;) :p :D


lets' say this... back in my sales days we blew by a trooper going 127 ( in a 55... ) in a expedition that was tricked out.. by the time he even turned on the lights we were a good mile up the road.. by the time he pulled out we couldn't see him anymore.. We talked the driver into just pulling over, since we knew he was going to either eventually catch us or radio up ahead. it took a good 3 minutes for him to come blowing right past us and he almost went out of sight before he realized he had past us. He would never have caught us if we had kept speed. He had to go well over 130 mph just to catch up... ( if he went 130 he'd be miles behind us forever ). The diffrence is there's always a road block for you, they have lights and sirens and people usually tend to get out of the way.. although here that's not always the case.

On a good side the cop walked up to the window, said "slow down andretti" and walked back to his car and left.. best traffic stop i've ever experienced....

HIX8 10-20-2005 11:17 PM

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Aseras 10-20-2005 11:18 PM


Originally Posted by mamccubbin
If you are doing 150 even on a straight highway, you can creep up on other cars a lot quicker than you might think. Day or night. And other cars or pedestrians aren't usually on the lookout for a car going more than double the speed limit.

anything over 120 is scary... especially at night. have any idea what any kind of critter will do to a car at 100 mph++? you can see the cars you are coming up on, it's what you don't see that bites you in the ass.

mamccubbin 10-20-2005 11:19 PM

Are you mocking the Bert? You don't want him to get even more angry.

mamccubbin 10-20-2005 11:20 PM


Originally Posted by Aseras
anything over 120 is scary... especially at night. have any idea what any kind of critter will do to a car at 100 mph++? you can see the cars you are coming up on, it's what you don't see that bites you in the ass.

There you go.

HIX8 10-20-2005 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mamccubbin
Are you mocking the Bert? You don't want him to get even more angry.

Here is classic "mocking the Bert":

AQA101 10-21-2005 12:07 AM


Originally Posted by Brice-RX8
What kind of cruising gas mileage do you get at that speed? LOL

20-25 liters for 100km. In US terms that's 9,5-11,7 mpg. If you take the german fuel price of approx. 1,30 € per liter (that's roughly $6 per gallon) into account, this means you can burn something like $78 in one hour.

rex 10-21-2005 01:04 AM

Those of you who've had their RX-8's up to 140-150mph on the road, how did the car handle at those speeds? Was it stable? Did it feel light? I know a lot depends on road surface and presence of side winds etc., but I'm just curious to hear generally how well the (stock version) car handles those speeds.

Krankor 10-21-2005 01:04 AM


Originally Posted by Aseras
anything over 120 is scary... especially at night. have any idea what any kind of critter will do to a car at 100 mph++? you can see the cars you are coming up on, it's what you don't see that bites you in the ass.

Odd way to say that. 100 mph++ is 100 mph, with the understanding that the next time it will be 101.

carbonRX8 10-21-2005 01:42 AM

I have a new Theory. I shall name it the Top Speed Moral Morph Theory or TSMMT.

A thread will morph into a lecture on the evils of going fast iff (if and only if) the thread has "Top Speed" in the thread title.

Do a search. in every top speed thread is somebodys Moms educating us that speed is bad. :rant:

AQA101 10-21-2005 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by rex
Those of you who've had their RX-8's up to 140-150mph on the road, how did the car handle at those speeds? Was it stable? Did it feel light? I know a lot depends on road surface and presence of side winds etc., but I'm just curious to hear generally how well the (stock version) car handles those speeds.

It handles very good. Pretty much glued to the road by downforce at top speed, but side winds can get scary. You can basically say that the cars roadhold improves at higher speed.

Hard braking can be a bit taxing above 130 mph, since the car has quite a tendency to tramline and at that point almost pulls the wheel out of your hands if the road isn't perfect.

HIX8 10-21-2005 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by AQA101
It handles very good. Pretty much glued to the road by downforce at top speed, but side winds can get scary. You can basically say that the cars roadhold improves at higher speed.

Hard braking can be a bit taxing above 130 mph, since the car has quite a tendency to tramline and at that point almost pulls the wheel out of your hands if the road isn't perfect.

What do you mean by 'tramline'?

AQA101 10-21-2005 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by HIX8
What do you mean by 'tramline'?

The effect that the car (strongly) pulls in a certain direction under certain conditions, especially when braking.

mamccubbin 10-21-2005 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by carbonRX8
I have a new Theory. I shall name it the Top Speed Moral Morph Theory or TSMMT.

A thread will morph into a lecture on the evils of going fast iff (if and only if) the thread has "Top Speed" in the thread title.

Do a search. in every top speed thread is somebodys Moms educating us that speed is bad. :rant:

I'm not acting like somebody's mom, I'm acting like a responsible adult. So let's leave the insults out of it.

carbonRX8 10-21-2005 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by mamccubbin
I'm not acting like somebody's mom, I'm acting like a responsible adult. So let's leave the insults out of it.

No insult, just a good, colorful descriptor. I am just re-jacking the thread by making a truthful observation.

HIX8 10-21-2005 12:19 PM

We can probably find common ground here in everyone agreeing that 120+ driving is far more risky than driving the speed limit.

It could be good to have a thread where we hear from those who have gone really fast in the 8 and experienced problems. (Assuming they survived to tell about it.)



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