If your Engine failed at what mileage was it?
 

I am curious about how many miles your RX-8 had when the engine failed. I'm looking to see if there is a common point that trouble emerges.

Please note I broke this down between 04 model year and the rest of the model years 05 to 08.

Please note that most RX-8's engines will not fail but for those that do lets see if we see any correlation with Mileage.

How about "My original Engine is still running strong and contrary to popular belief this engine is as strong as a rock with proper care"?....

cuz there was a poll about that already...

I can't find that old poll. It was good stuff.. wonder what happened to it??:uhh:

looks like it was deleted...can't find it.

I would be on that other pole... Got over 112K on my 04 MT and she still runs like new.. I love my Flea.

This poll is not meant to determine the number or percentages of engines that are failing. The poll that is running for that show close top 20% but only Mazda knows the real number and because the RX is relatively new that number could grow or shrink with age.

So all you Fan-boys can calm down, I just what to know if there is a relative mileage that the engines, which are failing, are failing at.

I can understand the empirical curiosity, among those in the very small minority that have needed an engine replacement, but yet another thread that will cause the uninitiated passerby to conclude that the RX-8 is unreliable. :uhh:

If someone's engine failed multiple times, which one do they record?

^Agree. To a newcomer researching the car, the title of the thread comes across as saying "we all know the engine is gonna fail, but we'd like to get a better idea of when". Asking "at what mileage did your engine fail" is akin to asking "when did you stop beating your wife?"

This DOES seem like a bad bad for the title, but I see exactly where the poll is meant to head for, and I like it. It would be good to see if there is some correlation with year of car and mileage.

Also, when did engine "replacements" morph into engine "failures"? A small number of engines failed Mazda's compression test and were then replaced - rather than repaired. How did that magically become "engine failure"?? Do you work for Karl Rove?

Just change the title to "If your engine was replaced, at what mileage did that happen?" Then the title would be neutral, instead of coming across as negative propoganda.

Exactly what I was thinking about adding to it. Get out of my mind, if you go any further, you will be scared for life.

You actually have a good point for a change, I have switched the title to better reflected the reality of the situation.

As for your dribble about "an engine being replaced by Mazda is not really a failed engine". This is complete nonsense, Mazda replaced the engine because it FAILED or was going to FAIL. Automakers general do not like to incur the cost of replacing a good engine.:banghead:

OK I was able to change the name of the post but not the poll's name which is what is appearing on the main board. Can anyone offer some advise as to how I might change this?

Thanks

Even from this admittedly very limited data set, the moral of the story is don't buy an '04.

Does my camry count???

mod or admin - but I'm not sure if they can change poll names.

A mod should be able to change the thread title for you.

That should not be a problem...they stopped making those a few years ago.

Ken

did anyone say the obligatory "should have been a public poll" yet?

no?

this should have been a public poll.


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man I hate seeing these polls, they literally scare the shit out of me. I have an 04 with 63K and Im still on my first motor and by no means do I have 5-7K to replace this out of warranty engine on this car I owe $19,000 and its worth half of that. ugh!!! my mornings ruined

dont freak out to much man, mine died at 76k but it was because i bought it used and im sure now that it was not taken care of for the 50 thousand miles before me. It has been proven that is you take care of it like your suposed to it will really take a beating.

That just isn't true.

Some of these engines where maintained very well.

Changed my oil every 3k.. 4k tops.

Shoafb, except for the many people who have quite a few miles on their engine right now. We know your engine failed, we know you feel the need to remain here and talk about how our engines fail all the time....but in reality, an engine well maintained will last longer than one that isn't. That's what cmr333 said.

I have replied to 3 threads. One of which was the one I started. Shall I not reply to my own thread now? Also in that very same thread 2 members with well maintained engines ( by rotary or any other standards ) blew. So the argument does not hold water. Some fail, some don't. We don't know why.

I suppose I should not have replied to the poll as well.

If everyone who had an engine fail just left.... how would you know how many engines failed? We would not be here to report it.

So your saying that no matter if you even maintain the engine, it's going to blow at roughly the same time as a properly maintained one? I should try this one out, and stop wasting money on oil changes, then.

well first engine at 12,500 miles
sencond engine at 25,000 miles
and third engine at 43,000 miles

and its an 2004 4 port AT

When did I say that? Please qoute where I said there was no need to maintain the engine.

Schools just aren't what they used to be when it comes to reading comprehension I guess.

There are plenty of owners that maintained their cars better than the manual calls for - ie oil changes every 3k, plenty of high rev driving, etc. who have had an engine replacement. I can think of at least 2 such members who have had multiple replacements.

Saying only 'poorly maintained' engines are croaking is terribly unfair to those owners who did everything right and still had one die.

That being said - improperly maintained engines are more susceptible. The ones that are run w/a lack of oil, infrequent changes, granny driving, etc - they are f8cking doomed, especially if they live hot climates.

Cut the guy some slack, if you were in his shoes you'd want to vent also. I know I would. He spent a lot of money on this car and to have premature engine failure that you then have to foot the bill for would really piss me off. To make matter worst Mazda knows about the problem.

I need to be able to vote twice...

Thanks Raptor. Just to be clear though my engine was under warranty so I was out of pocket nothing but the money I lost trading the car in. I did loose a lot of money on the trade though, that is for sure.

Yay, insult reading comprehension. Lets just dive straight to that. You quoted a guy who said you have a better chance at having a decent maintenance record means you will in most cases have a longer lasting engine, which is VERY true, you said he was wrong. Here, you asked me to quote, let me help!
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@Raptor - I understand the need to vent, it was just a that every time I see him post, I can guarantee I know the gist of it. It's like a broken record. Yes, your engine blew, sucks. Yes, Mazda has an issue with the engine and they NEED to fix it. Everybody knows it *except for the newbs of the forum, or the people who have plugs in the ears*

correct me if I am wrong here, but wasn't part of the reason for the engines failing due to how the computer was programmed? something about not allowing enough oil in?

I lol'd.:lol2:

That almost makes up for your post in the curse of the silver thread.

Balony

BS I took very good care of my car and I need a new engine now at 98,000 miles. I believe I got to almost 100,000 miles because I took good care of her. Many went much earlier. Now I know some have and will go past 100,000 miles, but I also believe that most engines won't see 100,000 miles before needing to be replaced. At least not most of the first few model years.

There appears to be 2 areas responsible for engine failure in the RX-8.

1) Engine lubrication: The theory is that the Apex seals are not receiving proper lubrication causing low compression and engine failure. Mazda had a recall at which time they re-metered the MOP for more oil at specify temps, loads ect.... They currently have another flash which again readjusts the MOP and if you look at the new model coming out they have added a 3rd oil injector to oil the Apex seal. So we really don't know if this problem is solved or not. Also the problem effect more AT them MT and effect people more in hotter dry climates.

2) There appears to be a carbon build up issue that could be causing some failures. This issue was suspected but seems to be coming to light. It may be nothing but we just don't know.

Ok CP. I stated the above was not true. As in... It has NOT been proven that if you take care of the car like you are supposed to it can take a beating. This implies the engines that failed, where not maintained.... and as I said THIS is not true.

At no point did I say an unmaintained engine will last as long as one that is maintained which brings me back your reading comprehensionn or lack of it.

Again, you misqouted the guy I qouted and that is not the first time you have done so.

@Raptor - I understand the need to vent, it was just a that every time I see him post, I can guarantee I know the gist of it. It's like a broken record. Yes, your engine blew, sucks. Yes, Mazda has an issue with the engine and they NEED to fix it. Everybody knows it *except for the newbs of the forum, or the people who have plugs in the ears*


and we know your gist as well. The engines are fine, there is no problem.

its interesting that we have a nice bell curve going.

i wonder if it'll stay like that.

I'm still eagerly awaiting an engine failure, but this will be interesting...

ok when i said what i said i guess it was taken way wrong. my engine was not taken care of and started showing signs of failure at 70k. if it had been i might have made it to 90 or 100. i was not saying that mantinece was the main issue because we all now it is not. what i was trying to get across is what a few other people have posted in this thread, you might have a bit of a better chance at having the renny last a bit longer with good mantinence and proper driving.

Yes, because I'm all for jumping on the bandwagon for saying that our engines are 100% fine, no issues with our engines at all. Heck, having so many failures already is proof that our engines are flawless. The only thing I was portraying in this thread was if you maintain the engine properly, you have a much higher chance to evade failure than if you don't, and not even you can deny that, eh Shoafy?

Now, I don't feel the need to keep this bickering in a public thread. If you feel the need to take more silly jabs at my reading comprehension or something, I'm all for it through PMs.

Hey, what exactly prevents someone—or scores of people—who don't even own an 8 from registering and voting? I'm not real computer literate; what's the safeguard that prevents that?

There isn't a real safeguard, but if somebody makes multiple accounts, the admins will note the same IP being logged with multiple accounts and work to ban/remove them...not sure if they can remove votes.

45K miles no engine failure for me =DDD

I drove my car hard since day 1 =]] peeling out of the dealer parking lot haha

(over exaggerating) but yep..

i do the oil changes 3K 4K 5K even 6k depending if i have time but normally att 4K miles.. I also only use synthetic royal purple

I dont redline top much but i do drive in the 8K rpm range =]

the service guy said that 9-10 8's that come inf or a new engine are the auto's

he even said that one time they had put a new engine in a auto 8 and when they went to go test drive it the engine needed to be replaced again i guess it died on them..

i guess its hard to get them running right but when you do rotaries are the best

Which one? I'm on number 4.

So… if 10 guys with 350Zs register and each vote once, and ten guys with Evos register and each vote once, and ten guys with Mustangs register and each vote once… the votes will count?