Upgraded starter available under warranty - tell me more!
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From: Adelaide, Australia
Originally Posted by NoTears316
Can I use synthetic oil?
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The internet at its worst. Any moron can flood any forum with alarming negative bullshit posts that, at a glance, suggest the car is a disaster. Someone who's just researching the 8 for the very first time clicks "RX-8 Discussion" and what do they see?
• More bad news about the RX-8 or what Mazda won't be telling you
• Rx8 HP false advertising/Class Action
• Mazda doesn't have a Clue!
• 2 replacement engines
• how long would my rx8 last?
• Buy Mazda again?
• HELP! Just bought my RX-8 and it won't budge in the snow!
• Is the TSB the only way to fix the rear wheel brake squeek?
Who would believe you could swift boat one of the best cars of recent years? (Then again, in a country that worships Paris Hilton, Donald Trump and American Idol, I guess anything is possible.)
• More bad news about the RX-8 or what Mazda won't be telling you
• Rx8 HP false advertising/Class Action
• Mazda doesn't have a Clue!
• 2 replacement engines
• how long would my rx8 last?
• Buy Mazda again?
• HELP! Just bought my RX-8 and it won't budge in the snow!
• Is the TSB the only way to fix the rear wheel brake squeek?
Who would believe you could swift boat one of the best cars of recent years? (Then again, in a country that worships Paris Hilton, Donald Trump and American Idol, I guess anything is possible.)
Originally Posted by New Yorker
The internet at its worst. Any moron can flood any forum with alarming negative bullshit posts that, at a glance, suggest the car is a disaster. Someone who's just researching the 8 for the very first time clicks "RX-8 Discussion" and what do they see?
• More bad news about the RX-8 or what Mazda won't be telling you
• Rx8 HP false advertising/Class Action
• Mazda doesn't have a Clue!
• 2 replacement engines
• how long would my rx8 last?
• Buy Mazda again?
• HELP! Just bought my RX-8 and it won't budge in the snow!
• Is the TSB the only way to fix the rear wheel brake squeek?
Who would believe you could swift boat one of the best cars of recent years? (Then again, in a country that worships Paris Hilton, Donald Trump and American Idol, I guess anything is possible.)
• More bad news about the RX-8 or what Mazda won't be telling you
• Rx8 HP false advertising/Class Action
• Mazda doesn't have a Clue!
• 2 replacement engines
• how long would my rx8 last?
• Buy Mazda again?
• HELP! Just bought my RX-8 and it won't budge in the snow!
• Is the TSB the only way to fix the rear wheel brake squeek?
Who would believe you could swift boat one of the best cars of recent years? (Then again, in a country that worships Paris Hilton, Donald Trump and American Idol, I guess anything is possible.)
But you forgot Rosie O'Donnell and her bitch ... I mean girlfriend
Last edited by nycgps; Jan 25, 2007 at 06:38 PM.
Originally Posted by RoXanneBlack8
hey guys this may be off topic but my car wont start this morning. yesterday i backed it outta the garage to wash it and now it wont start. the tech at my dealer said the rx8s have problems and that they blow up, is he right? should i trade it in and get a 350z like my neighbor?
Its more like
Rotary cannot handle high RPM. You have to keep it below 2K rpm or else the apex seals might fly outa engine and cut your leg.
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From: North Carolina
Originally Posted by dbb
no, synthetic oil causes the CV joints to break off apex seals, which then fly into the 2 stroke discombobulator, which requires Mazda approved specialist left-handed screwdrivers to fix.
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Originally Posted by sandia8
How many of you have had you starter replaced?
My car would not start and was having a major issue with trying to crank it over.
Mechanic replaced the starter with ' a NEW HEAVY DUTY version' and said
' there is no current recall concerning the starter problem on the Rx8 but there should be one'
So along with the other recall issues, and problems associated with this car, you can expect your starter to fail or fall of the car. Wonderful.
Sorry
My car would not start and was having a major issue with trying to crank it over.
Mechanic replaced the starter with ' a NEW HEAVY DUTY version' and said
' there is no current recall concerning the starter problem on the Rx8 but there should be one'
So along with the other recall issues, and problems associated with this car, you can expect your starter to fail or fall of the car. Wonderful.
Sorry
This is for my 1st version November 04 RX-8. Perhaps they fixed it for later versions.
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From: Orlando, FL
Originally Posted by DaveCM203
I HIT 21 MPG FOR THE SECOUND TANK IN A ROW!!!! (Well, actualy 20.8 and 20.9. But close enough)
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From: In the hills between San Miguel and Parkfield - "up in the boonie lands", Central Coast of California, Wine Country
Originally Posted by Outlaws eXtreme
My car would stop in the middle of traffic and wouldn't start. Starter was weak, and they didn't replace it... said my engine was fine. Sadly, I had to sell my RX-8
This is for my 1st version November 04 RX-8. Perhaps they fixed it for later versions.
This is for my 1st version November 04 RX-8. Perhaps they fixed it for later versions.
Also bigger battery gives better gas miles!!!
Last edited by Winfree; Jan 25, 2007 at 09:30 PM.
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Originally Posted by mysql101
Many of us got the upgraded starter when we flooded the car. Myself included. It's a great upgrade. Why are you complaining?
Better than that, Mazda made this upgrade a rolling change sometime in the 2005 model year so about half (or more) of the RX-8s on the road would *already* have the better starter. Duh.
banhammer's not good enough anymore - I'd like to see the mods start deleting these b.s. threads.
Any intelligent member of the forum who really had a starter issue would have searched and read a few dozen of the existing starter/flooding threads. Then they would have known that this was a well known issue, well solved issue and a completely dead horse. Double-duh.
I read all those thread and you know what? When my car was 1 year old with 12,000 miles on it I sent it to Mazda and got a brand-new, upgraded starter, new, upgraded battery, new spark plugs and a free oil change.... and you know what? They hadn't even failed yet. I reported one flooding incident and *boom* free upgrades - with a free tow.
What's not to like? Maybe some people don't like the fact that the whole world doesn't slide in their favor when they're ignorant and poorly informed, but I classify that as a personal problem, not a Mazda problem.
This guy's either:
really dumb to not find tons of information about the starter already,
really inconsiderate to not even check to see if any of our 1,000,000 posts talk about this already or
really dishonest to deliberately post last year's bad news like no one's ever heard of it before.
Re-named.....
Originally Posted by Cool-Blue-Dad
+1 mysql101
Better than that, Mazda made this upgrade a rolling change sometime in the 2005 model year so about half (or more) of the RX-8s on the road would *already* have the better starter. Duh.
banhammer's not good enough anymore - I'd like to see the mods start deleting these b.s. threads.
Any intelligent member of the forum who really had a starter issue would have searched and read a few dozen of the existing starter/flooding threads. Then they would have known that this was a well known issue, well solved issue and a completely dead horse. Double-duh.
I read all those thread and you know what? When my car was 1 year old with 12,000 miles on it I sent it to Mazda and got a brand-new, upgraded starter, new, upgraded battery, new spark plugs and a free oil change.... and you know what? They hadn't even failed yet. I reported one flooding incident and *boom* free upgrades - with a free tow.
What's not to like? Maybe some people don't like the fact that the whole world doesn't slide in their favor when they're ignorant and poorly informed, but I classify that as a personal problem, not a Mazda problem.
This guy's either:
really dumb to not find tons of information about the starter already,
really inconsiderate to not even check to see if any of our 1,000,000 posts talk about this already or
really dishonest to deliberately post last year's bad news like no one's ever heard of it before.
Better than that, Mazda made this upgrade a rolling change sometime in the 2005 model year so about half (or more) of the RX-8s on the road would *already* have the better starter. Duh.
banhammer's not good enough anymore - I'd like to see the mods start deleting these b.s. threads.
Any intelligent member of the forum who really had a starter issue would have searched and read a few dozen of the existing starter/flooding threads. Then they would have known that this was a well known issue, well solved issue and a completely dead horse. Double-duh.
I read all those thread and you know what? When my car was 1 year old with 12,000 miles on it I sent it to Mazda and got a brand-new, upgraded starter, new, upgraded battery, new spark plugs and a free oil change.... and you know what? They hadn't even failed yet. I reported one flooding incident and *boom* free upgrades - with a free tow.
What's not to like? Maybe some people don't like the fact that the whole world doesn't slide in their favor when they're ignorant and poorly informed, but I classify that as a personal problem, not a Mazda problem.
This guy's either:
really dumb to not find tons of information about the starter already,
really inconsiderate to not even check to see if any of our 1,000,000 posts talk about this already or
really dishonest to deliberately post last year's bad news like no one's ever heard of it before.
He is more like one of those *stupid moron* who thinks automobiles would never break ....
Anyone wants my brother's SE-R , she just reached her 2nd birthday 2 months ago, and shes having a 5-6 months recall issues still not fixed, A/C just died, Transmission making weird cranking noise, Engine making BuzzzZzzz weird noise. Battery died twice (so I got her a Optima Battery), Starter making weird noise(wzzzzZZz kind of noise) , Dealership dont give a ****.
If Mazda's service is bad (which I never had a problem with them, did like 10 TSB, replaced my front pads like 3 times, zero hassles), then I think I should file a BBB against Nissan or something.
Oh yes, we're thinking about selling it and get a Mazda instead.
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Originally Posted by nycgps
Obviously this person is nowhere near the *intelligent* group .....
He is more like one of those *stupid moron* who thinks automobiles would never break ....
He is more like one of those *stupid moron* who thinks automobiles would never break ....
More puzzling, a member since 2004. Ought to be used to how the forum works - find info, share info, take advantage of info. Heck, any researcher even half-way good at their job would really sink their teeth into a live, interactive knowledge-base like this forum.
Winfree knows - read it here, go to the dealer informed.
Originally Posted by Cool-Blue-Dad
Yeah, but what's ironic is that with a user-name like sandia8 located in CA I would guess he works at or is associated with the Sandia National Research Laboratory. Scientists, researchers and smart people right?
More puzzling, a member since 2004. Ought to be used to how the forum works - find info, share info, take advantage of info. Heck, any researcher even half-way good at their job would really sink their teeth into a live, interactive knowledge-base like this forum.
Winfree knows - read it here, go to the dealer informed.
More puzzling, a member since 2004. Ought to be used to how the forum works - find info, share info, take advantage of info. Heck, any researcher even half-way good at their job would really sink their teeth into a live, interactive knowledge-base like this forum.
Winfree knows - read it here, go to the dealer informed.
One smart in school does not mean he is smart in life
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car for 2 and the dog
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As per the normal use of this site. Run by FORD.
Every time any one reports any factual issues with the car, they get slammed as being
a nut case. I was just reporting the FACT that the starter on the 8 is crap as are a lot of parts on the car. Source MAZDA themselves.
The real nut cases are those, who spent $31,000 to buy this car in 2004 when the price was due to drop because the car was not selling and had so many problems. Those nuts lost their shorts and there resale value is zip. Same nuts that have faced all the re-flashes , mods and recalls to cover up problems.
Like a heat shield that keeps the gas tank from melting. That’s not a fix, it's a Band-Aid.
As far as other issues with this car, they are well documented (if not buried) in this forum.
Being a RX-8 zelot, won’t change the facts about your car and it’s problems. From the original less than advertises HP to what ever is the lastest issues may be. It’s no wonder FORD is losing $24,000 per minute. It’s cars are crap and everyone knows it.
Every time any one reports any factual issues with the car, they get slammed as being
a nut case. I was just reporting the FACT that the starter on the 8 is crap as are a lot of parts on the car. Source MAZDA themselves.
The real nut cases are those, who spent $31,000 to buy this car in 2004 when the price was due to drop because the car was not selling and had so many problems. Those nuts lost their shorts and there resale value is zip. Same nuts that have faced all the re-flashes , mods and recalls to cover up problems.
Like a heat shield that keeps the gas tank from melting. That’s not a fix, it's a Band-Aid.
As far as other issues with this car, they are well documented (if not buried) in this forum.
Being a RX-8 zelot, won’t change the facts about your car and it’s problems. From the original less than advertises HP to what ever is the lastest issues may be. It’s no wonder FORD is losing $24,000 per minute. It’s cars are crap and everyone knows it.
Originally Posted by sandia8
As per the normal use of this site. Run by FORD.
Every time any one reports any factual issues with the car, they get slammed as being
a nut case. I was just reporting the FACT that the starter on the 8 is crap as are a lot of parts on the car. Source MAZDA themselves.
The real nut cases are those, who spent $31,000 to buy this car in 2004 when the price was due to drop because the car was not selling and had so many problems. Those nuts lost their shorts and there resale value is zip. Same nuts that have faced all the re-flashes , mods and recalls to cover up problems.
Like a heat shield that keeps the gas tank from melting. That’s not a fix, it's a Band-Aid.
As far as other issues with this car, they are well documented (if not buried) in this forum.
Being a RX-8 zelot, won’t change the facts about your car and it’s problems. From the original less than advertises HP to what ever is the lastest issues may be. It’s no wonder FORD is losing $24,000 per minute. It’s cars are crap and everyone knows it.
Every time any one reports any factual issues with the car, they get slammed as being
a nut case. I was just reporting the FACT that the starter on the 8 is crap as are a lot of parts on the car. Source MAZDA themselves.
The real nut cases are those, who spent $31,000 to buy this car in 2004 when the price was due to drop because the car was not selling and had so many problems. Those nuts lost their shorts and there resale value is zip. Same nuts that have faced all the re-flashes , mods and recalls to cover up problems.
Like a heat shield that keeps the gas tank from melting. That’s not a fix, it's a Band-Aid.
As far as other issues with this car, they are well documented (if not buried) in this forum.
Being a RX-8 zelot, won’t change the facts about your car and it’s problems. From the original less than advertises HP to what ever is the lastest issues may be. It’s no wonder FORD is losing $24,000 per minute. It’s cars are crap and everyone knows it.
Originally Posted by sandia8
As per the normal use of this site. Run by FORD.
Every time any one reports any factual issues with the car, they get slammed as being
a nut case. I was just reporting the FACT that the starter on the 8 is crap as are a lot of parts on the car. Source MAZDA themselves.
The real nut cases are those, who spent $31,000 to buy this car in 2004 when the price was due to drop because the car was not selling and had so many problems. Those nuts lost their shorts and there resale value is zip. Same nuts that have faced all the re-flashes , mods and recalls to cover up problems.
Like a heat shield that keeps the gas tank from melting. That’s not a fix, it's a Band-Aid.
As far as other issues with this car, they are well documented (if not buried) in this forum.
Being a RX-8 zelot, won’t change the facts about your car and it’s problems. From the original less than advertises HP to what ever is the lastest issues may be. It’s no wonder FORD is losing $24,000 per minute. It’s cars are crap and everyone knows it.
Every time any one reports any factual issues with the car, they get slammed as being
a nut case. I was just reporting the FACT that the starter on the 8 is crap as are a lot of parts on the car. Source MAZDA themselves.
The real nut cases are those, who spent $31,000 to buy this car in 2004 when the price was due to drop because the car was not selling and had so many problems. Those nuts lost their shorts and there resale value is zip. Same nuts that have faced all the re-flashes , mods and recalls to cover up problems.
Like a heat shield that keeps the gas tank from melting. That’s not a fix, it's a Band-Aid.
As far as other issues with this car, they are well documented (if not buried) in this forum.
Being a RX-8 zelot, won’t change the facts about your car and it’s problems. From the original less than advertises HP to what ever is the lastest issues may be. It’s no wonder FORD is losing $24,000 per minute. It’s cars are crap and everyone knows it.
Look the problem is that, you're talking about a problem that has been corrected yearS ago, what you did was, no search, nothing, came up and start talking **** and spread WRONG information.
and like I said, we all gotta say thanks to dumbasses like you who gave our car a really bad name. Learn how to search before you open ya mouth next time.
and oh yes, every car has their own problems, we all know it, go search for TSBs on the web and Im actually happy that Mazda would let dealership to post the *actual* tsb up on the web to let ppl know the problems. Nissan? good luck with that.
How is the heatshield thing even a *band-aid* ? and Re-flashes are bad? oh my god tell me I didnt see that ..... the heatshield thing is for morons who just love to Free-Revving their car for 15 minutes straight. If you drive normally u wouldnt even need it, its just required by Law because it has something to do with Gas Tank(Safety related) and Re-flashes .... Im GLAD that I get all the updates. I've NEVER seen any other besides Mazda to do this. Its not only for 8, they did it for 6/3 as well. Is that bad? When a car first came out u expect it to be perfect? and you expect there would be nothing wrong? and by adding logics to the ECU so morons cant Free Revving their engine till it explode is bad ? and btw 8 has nothing to do with Ford. Ford is losing money, not Mazda. Search is ur friend. Ooo Im quite happy about the latest Ford reports. but even if they go down it wont affect Mazda that much. What they will do(if they die) someone will just take over Mazda's stock. thats all.
Actually u're dumber than we thought, u paid 31K for ur car? sad
What Im thinking is that, go sell ur 8 to someone who is SMARTER than you to understand that updates are good and get urself a beat-up Civic/Accord/Camry/Corolla/Yaris/Hyundai/KIA and be happy. Alright ?
Last edited by nycgps; Jan 26, 2007 at 10:45 AM.
That smarts......
".........with a user-name like sandia8 located in CA I would guess he works at or is associated with the Sandia National Research Laboratory. Scientists, researchers and smart people right?"
.......which only proves you don't have to be a rocket scientist to be a Rocket Scientist!!! 
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.......which only proves you don't have to be a rocket scientist to be a Rocket Scientist!!!
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Originally Posted by sandia8
As per the normal use of this site. Run by FORD.
Every time any one reports any factual issues with the car, they get slammed as being
a nut case. I was just reporting the FACT that the starter on the 8 is crap as are a lot of parts on the car. Source MAZDA themselves.
Every time any one reports any factual issues with the car, they get slammed as being
a nut case. I was just reporting the FACT that the starter on the 8 is crap as are a lot of parts on the car. Source MAZDA themselves.
Your entire post history is one of the most annoying, dour and pessimistic dead-horse-beaters I've seen in a while. You haven't posted a single good comment about this car since day one.
Most of us are realists and understand that no car is perfect. We buy this car for the reward you get from an intangible synergy of driver and machine, not because we need it for a dog.
It's people like you who give the forum a bad name.
Last edited by eug; Jan 26, 2007 at 10:46 AM.
1.3L is enough 4 anybody
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From: Chicago Suburbs
I just had mine towed to the dealer yesterday. I knew about the new battery/starter back when the problem was first identified... the catch is, the "Engine Cranks / No Start" TSB (01-048/06) says that battery/starter replacement is only permitted when the "no start" condition occurs. I respected this, and never pressed them to give me the new starter/battery until yesterday, when the car wouldn't start.
That's my only beef with the way they approached this - I think this probably should have been a recall. The customer is at risk of possibly being stranded in cold weather. I was lucky; I was at home, and I have another car.
The OP, in my opinion, could have chosen better words, but I think that 3-year-old cars should pretty much just START, so on that point he/she has a right to be ticked off. All in all however, I think Mazda has done a good job of identifying and addressing issues with this car. Of course, I have low miles, and I've been fortunate to have few issues. I might feel differently if I had gotten one of the more problematic cars.
My service guy seemed to know the deal with the starter/battery issue, so hopefully I'll be all set soon.
That's my only beef with the way they approached this - I think this probably should have been a recall. The customer is at risk of possibly being stranded in cold weather. I was lucky; I was at home, and I have another car.
The OP, in my opinion, could have chosen better words, but I think that 3-year-old cars should pretty much just START, so on that point he/she has a right to be ticked off. All in all however, I think Mazda has done a good job of identifying and addressing issues with this car. Of course, I have low miles, and I've been fortunate to have few issues. I might feel differently if I had gotten one of the more problematic cars.
My service guy seemed to know the deal with the starter/battery issue, so hopefully I'll be all set soon.