can that be considered an american car since it will most likely still be built by holden in australia? or are they bringing production here? :confused:

Oops! I'm afraid we sort of opened up a political can of worms there, sorry guys...

My initial response to the question of comparable American cars to the RX-8 was "none", but depending on your needs, you might actually have quite a few to choose from. If you are hell-bent on low 1/4 mile times and going from 0-60 within the wink of an eye, American car makers actually present you with a plethora of posibilities (i.e. Camaro, Firebird et al). However, if what you are looking for is sharp handling, the American options become less obvious - at least within the RX-8's price range.
So, for me, there quite honestly isn't really any competition presented by American car makers to the rule of the RX-8, Z350, G35c and Audi TT.

One last historical rant, and that will be it: I am very much aware that the Marshall Aid is one of the most marked reasons for our present prosperity in Western Europe. However, the major turning point of the war in Europe was the Battle of Stalingrad, not D-Day. After Stalingrad the Red Army pushed forward and actually reached a Danish island (Bornholm) off the coast of Sweden, so odds are we would have learned Russian at school (and not English) had it not been for the American involvement - German was quite out of the question. The same thing goes for the rest of Europe, remember the divided Gemany :D

Cheers

Eske

About the Holden
 

Nope, they won't be moving the production, just banging on a new badge, so to me it represents an all out Aussie automotive vehicle.

And I thought the new Australian Goat was going to be $40k with some options - pretty pricey to compare to the RX-8. The best competitor is still a high-end Mustang - and that's a long way from great handling in it's raw form.

Yeah, I live down the road from a brewery myself. You may have heard of a few of the beers that they make. Michelob, Busch, and Budweiser to name a few.

-I think that cars do different things well. I'll love the RX-8 because of its sportiness and power combined with its practicality. The handling is a bonus. I love my camaro because it's fun to slam it down to second and push the pedal to the floor.
All cars please thier owners in different ways.

Eeeeeew. Your house must smell like crap! There is a bud brewery near me and I wanna puke when I pass it.

The UN did not stop the US led coalition from occupying Iraq in '91. George Bush made the decision.

Name some Iraqi terrorists or training camps. There are none. I can name a ton of terrorists from the US allies known as Saudi Arabia and Kuwait and even a few from the US.

Hussein could have given chemical or biological weapons to terrorists over a decade ago. If he did they surely would have been unleashed on the US many years ago. Hell, even bi Laden speaks of Hussein and his regime as infidels.

Saddam is a SOB reincarnate of Stalin but he is not a supporter of terrorists. If there is a war it is not about terrorism or any security threat to the US.

Corvette Z06's are unbeatable for value/performance. And they're American too.



First of all, no. Anheiser-Busch is headquartered here.(You know, the company with the largest share of the beer market in the world?)

Second, what else is by that brewery??

Third, Even though off the subject-- many imported beers aren't refrigerated on the trip here and taste *nothing* like they're supposed to. So if you pay twice the price for drinking imports, think about it next time.


But obviously your house smells like crap. That sucks.

Cars
 

Hey I thought we were trying to keep on topic here! Can we have a group hug and get back to discussing cars?

As for the Pontiac GTO, is the engine made in Australia? Just curious, I know they make the LS1 here, do they also make their own down there as well?

As for a future contender, has anyone seen the Chevy SS concept. Similar design to the RX-8 but with 450hp!!! Sweet looking car, I hope they build it.

Re: Cars
 

My new issue of Car and Driver says that Chevy has said "there is no chance it will ever go into production." But it all depends on how much faith you have in C&D...

Hey does anyone remember the old "classic" Avanti?

:D

I'd love to own one!

;)

There was even a 4 door version (opps, that was made in canada...)

:p

... oh did you meant curent U.S. car?

;)

Re: Cars
 

Looks similar until you see it in person. This car is huge compared to the RX-8 - talk at Detroit booth was that "it may be produced" but expect a cost "more than the vette" :eek:

This puts it in another class than the 8.

you are correct the un did not stop the us in '91. our stated goal from the start was to get iraqi troops out of kuwait and to re-establish the security of kuwait and other countries in the region. we did that and that is why the U.S. led coalition stopped when it did.

correct again. this war will be about the stability of the region and about keeping saddam from threatening his neighbors and to keep him from selling weapons to potential terrorists or other nations with ideas of grabbing the land of their neighbors.




i don't think chevy will build that SS thing. it would probably hurt 'vette sales

Sorry, I couldn't refrain from showing this!
 

Hey look, notice how the rear wraparound glass window looks similar to the RX-8

:D :D :D

The 1963 Studebaker Avanti - way ahead of it's time!

(... Kinda says that to me that there is NO car out on the road, yet, like the RX-8)

;)

nice pic of a nice car:cool:

Is there a guy in the right hand lower corner of that picture with a stocking cap on giving us the finger??

-maybe that's just my imagination