CatchMe

hey jim w, what was wrong with the Accord???
Mine has 20k, and no problems as of yet.
28.5mpg avg.

khoney

CATCH ME - that's the problem with putting too much stock in forums like this - problems get blown way out of proportion - resulting in a "Chicken Little" type atmosphere. You will always find the majority of posts relating to problems. My car has no problems, so I spend most of my time reading about the few unfortunates and trying to put things in perspective. This car is the best value out there in a practical sports car, and it's a blast to drive. If you're really concerned about it, hang onto your Accord for one more year and see what changes happen with the 8. As for me, I have no regrets about getting one of the 1st 8's off the line. I did it with the 2nd gen 7, too, and loved that car for 16 years. Of course, now I never want to drive it because the 8 has spoiled me too much

grogiefrog

$3000 off sticker is a nice deal. It must be harder to sell a sports car in the winter, but good for buyers! Next winter she's on my list. My current two cars are both paid off next November, and then I can go shopping. :D

I do enjoy reading owner's comments! All of you have been very helpful, but it's getting hard to wait...

WHealy

CatchMe,

I assume you were doing a trade as well. The extra dollars were probably there. Like they undercut your trade by 1-2 K and subtracted it from your new purchase to make it look good. Not knocking your deal. That's just typical sales method. If you got retail for your trade, then you got a heck of a deal!

Having owned 4 Hondas, I know the feeling. but every vehicle just gets older with use and more unreliable. There will come a time regardless of who built the vehicle. For me, I don't buy Honda's anymore because of the "fun" factor. of course they have picked some of that up with the Acura line. But I never had an issue with any of my Hondas. So i know exactly where you are coming from.

CatchMe

Again, thanks for the opinions folks.
Just a note, the deal was figured with Edmunds trade in value. They looked at NADA, KBB, and Edmunds, and said they would take the highest trade value and use that. Usually they use True Market Value, ie call the auction guys and see what they go for at auction. These guys didnt do that, they said the car is resalable, and they would use Edmunds price, sounds fair to me.
Also, I know theyre spot on with my trade value because Ive been looking at trading for a used BMW 330, and those guys are horrible to try to deal with. Mazda is allowing me $2000 more than BMW is for my trade.

Astor

NO YOU MADE A MISTAKE NOT BUYING IT----4 months, 6K + miles, still would buy another, no problems, just keep your oil checked every 2nd fill up if you drive hard, less if you baby it, and you too will have this feeling we have when we look out at, or get into our cars. This is a beautiful car with lots of class, it's been the most fun to drive, I took it on the Dragon, (it's 129 South out of Knoxville into North Carolina, apprx. 318 switchback curves in 11 miles, car handled great, never had as much fun in the car, no brakes, just 2nd to 3rd to 1st and back. I do now have calluses on my hands.

doccable

That's about the deal I got, $3k off MSRP. Hell, I'd jump on it. Come to think of it, if I had the money, I'd come out there and steal your deal out from under you. That's how well sold on the car I am. :D
You'd be fairly hard-pressed to find very many other people on this forum who'd disagree with me.
Buy the car.
-Doccable

carnut

Love my 8. Love it, love it, love it! No car is without a little risk. I'm not a big risk taker myself, but would I rather have a boring well-established car (a Corolla, perhaps?) or one that I love to drive and look at? Excellent buy for you, it sounds like!

ml2316

wow $1000 under invoice sounds pretty good. like someone else said, in the unlikely event you regret buying it you could sell it and probably at a very minimal loss considering the low purchase price.

shift_zoom8

CatchMe,

I'm not sure what your financial situation is like. Do you plan to trade in your Accord because you don't want two cars or because you can't afford two cars?

If it's simply a case of you don't want two cars or don't want to make monthly payments on two cars concurrently, I would suggest that you wait until the Accord is paid off before you buy an RX8, while keeping the Accord. You'll need the security of having a Honda to back you up. How do I know? Because in order to justify my "taking a chance" on the beautiful piece of engineering called the RX8, I had to first decide to keep my 10-year-old Honda instead of selling it. Speaking for a Honda owner, I KNOW that not only will reliability be constantly on your mind, but also, if you buy the RX8, gas mileage. Having my Honda around with my RX8 provides me the necessary peace of mind.

If however it's because you can't afford to keep two cars, then I would suggest that you keep the Accord and forget about the RX8 until the financial situation changes.

From one Honda owner to another.

graphicguy

After driving for about 25 years and having owned.....

--'67 GTO
--69 MGB-GT
--'71 Trans Am
--'78 VW Sirocco
--'85 Toyota Corolla GTS
--'89 Toyota Celica GTS
--'91 Honda Accord
--'93 Toyota Camry
--'97 BMW 325i
--'99 BMW 328i

I can say that the RX8 is the best car I've ever owned....hands down. I've got 6K miles and bought mine in August.

Aside from the CEL (fixed under warranty....no further problems) and the false "low oil level" light (fixed under warranty....no further problems) and the hard to find trunk release button, mine has been perfect. I drive it like I stole it. I get about 17 MPG in town and 22 MPG-24 MPG on the highway...18 MPG -19 MPG in mixed driving. In all kinds of weather and at temps ranging from 17 degrees to 95 degrees, I've started-stopped the engine after a few seconds numerous times and no flooding issues.

I can't think of another car I've enjoyed as much as this one.

Jump120MPH

I wouldnt let all the negative posts your read discourage you from buying. I know it may seem like lots of people are having problems, but you will see more of those post verses the people that have had no problems what so ever. I bought my car in August and have 10,000 miles on it not a single problem. This car is just plain fun to drive.

So hurry and go get the damn thing. You wont regret it trust me

rotarymagic

Big mistake, in my opinion. Go to the dealer and buy and 8.


By the way, I'm curious to what problems you, and some others are talking about???


THe only minor problems are flooding and gas mileage issues, both which only happen to some of the cars and even when they are happening, they are not that big of a deal..


FOr most people, including myself, the gas mileage gets better as the car ages.

Smoker

Should have checked this poll out before deciding dude.

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...threadid=15032

CatchMe

Well, the flooding, oil consumption, and fuel mileage are the issues.
As for the flooding not being a big deal...having to call my boss to tell him I wont be in to work because my brand new 31000 dollar car is dead in the driveway is definately a big deal. I just am not willing to take that risk right now. This, in my book, is absolutely unacceptable.

rotarymagic

Yes, if that happened, it would be a big deal. In the real world, car trouble is no excuse to be late or miss work.

I am trying to point out that flooding th RX8 does not happen as much as people think. And when it does happen, it is usually due to human error. The owner's manual tells how to prevent such a thing from happening.

Also, what is the oil consumption problem? Using too much oil? As far as my RX8 is concerned, it doesn't use that much more than any other car I have owned. Just to note though, I have gotten the oil changed on the RX8 every 2000 miles, so maybe the majority of the oil consumption is happening at or after the 3000 mile mark.

doccable

As a previous rotary owner, I can attest to the fact that rotary engines have always used/burned oil. This one, so far (1500 miles), has barely used 1/2 qt. IMHO, this rotary uses much less oil than the 12A ever did, (approximately 1 qt/2k miles). As far as flooding issues are concerned, if you follow the instructions that are in the owners manual, or talk to a competent rotary tech about how to avoid it, you shouldn't have problems. I still think you're making a huge mistake by not buying the car. But, that's just me.
-Doccable

Elara

I don't mean to be rude, but I fail to see how spending $2 on a quart of oil every 2k is any kind of issue. Surely, if you can afford a $30k car, you can afford to buy oil occasionally.

And since the majority of us have not had any kind of flooding problems (watch me jinx myself on this one) I don't think you need to worry about that either. And if your boss gets mad because of a problem you can't do anything about, you need a new job :p

I can, however, understand the fuel consumption, especially if you drive in the city a lot.

JimW

CatchMe: Sorry I responded so late. My problems with the Accord were Emissions related ( fumes in car), bad MPG related to emissions prob, rattles, bad paint (swirls,scratches) interior components breaking(change holder, C.D. storage cover) leather seating was falling apart and discoloring, CD player broke twice and was replaced as well as exterior molding problems, in short the car was a total lemon, I was very dissapointed as it was my first Honda and it was not reliable like I thought it would be, but overall I have friends that have the car and they have zero problems, so like any new car, it's the luck of the draw.

CatchMe

Holy smokes!!!
I guess it was a lemon. Im very surprised. I know no car is perfect, but damn, thats sick. Sorry your spoiled from another Honda, they really are great cars. Kinda like Vanilla ice cream. Very sensible, nobody hates em, most like em, but not too exciting.

BillK

If you can ever get KBB trade-in value, TAKE IT!

KBB's values are around 10% higher than what the real auction value of any given car is, so if a dealer is actually willing to give you that, TAKE IT...

RXilar8ed

I know this is an old thread, but just wondering what your decision was. Sounds like most of the owners on here love their RX8s. And the flooding problem, I've never had after 4000 miles, but I've always been told that you NEVER step on the gas when you turn on the car, only turn the key. And make sure when you turn off the engine, you rev it up and remove the key so the rotors will spin and generate enough heat to burn up what's left in the engine. We had a 1979 RX7, probably one of the first ones to ever come to this country and we drove it and loved it. Then we sold it to my sister and she drove it forever, even replaced the engine, drove it even more and it finally died about 2 years ago. The point being, if you want nothing but reliability, drive a Honda, or a Toyota - we've had both of those too, good cars, but not nearly as fun as the RX7 or RX8. And those cars have to have their times in the repair shop as well.

Any time you get in on the first year of a new model, there will be some "adjustments" most likely. But having an engine that has won the International Engine of the Year award goes a long way in my opinion. Anyhow, I love my RX8, and I would buy it again with absolutely no second thoughts. The only problem I have is that I no longer can park anywhere close to the front of where I'm going because I hate getting dinged by inconsiderate drivers who just fling open their car doors into the side of the car next to them.

RX8hopefull

i just bought mine today and i LOOOOVE IT...i cant see any problems with flooding the engine as everyone is saying as long as you let it warm up wich take a matter of minutes. this car is amazing!

Sue Esponte

Without knowing his driving habits, needs and concerns I'd say your remarks define "very uneducated".

"The 8 has no more problems than any other new car model". True. Different and perhaps of greater concern to some drivers (especially those in colder winter climes like Rochester, NY)? I'd say, yes.

I'm not going to rehash the flooding issue here, but to say that no driver should be concerned about the possibility or propensity of the 8 to flood (as compared to an '03 Honda Accord) would be ignorant. Some car owners just don't want to think about the issue. Should flooding be a concern for this potential owner? I don't know and neither do you. So, to say that he made an "uneducated and silly" decision is both uneducated and silly.

Educate him and then let him decide. There's nothing silly about asking for information. He can still go back to the dealer and buy the car after he's made an informed decision. To say "no, don't worry about it", however, assumes you have full knowledge of his needs...which you don't. IMHO, the best thing anyone here can do about flooding is educate people about the issue and let them make a decision.

-Eric

Edit: Wow, this was a REALLY old thread. lol :D

Elara

And your point in bringing up an old thread and attacking me for fussing at what was essentially a trolling post would be what?