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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 03:42 AM
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Hiya all, I got my AUTO 2005 RX8, wish I went for manual. Anyhow, some tips on shifting in sport shift mode would be much appreciated. I already feel like I am missing a bit on HP after reading thru the forum threads that manual peeps have about autos. I think my Auto is quick tho and the handling is great. Thanks!
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 03:01 PM
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I love my AT. All the fun of a manual with none of the inconveniences. Just wish I had an extra gear to play with. The only tips I can mention would be 1. keep your foot on the gas for the fastest shifts. I notice that if I shift and then release the gas, like if I'm going down a hill, it literally takes like 2-3 seconds to shift. If the pedal's to the metal though, it shifts quite quickly. 2. Believe it or not, you can actually rev match on downshifts. I have tons more fun with my RX-8 ever since I found that out.

Other then that, just shift whenever you want. I shift below 3000 usually just to avoid pissing people off, since everybody nowdays is tuned to hearing slushbox engines shift at 3000. If they start hearing anything above that it's instant OMG HE'S PLAYING 2 FAST 2 FURIOUS ON THE STREETS.
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Vertigo-1

Other then that, just shift whenever you want. I shift below 3000 usually just to avoid pissing people off, since everybody nowdays is tuned to hearing slushbox engines shift at 3000. If they start hearing anything above that it's instant OMG HE'S PLAYING 2 FAST 2 FURIOUS ON THE STREETS.

:D :D LMAO....
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 03:15 PM
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instant OMG HE'S PLAYING 2 FAST 2 FURIOUS ON THE STREETS.
Hey at least it's better than DEATHRACE2000 on the STREETS (those who can't remember what a Vinyl Album or 8-track is, may need to do a search)
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 04:50 PM
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How do you rev match? I usally take 2nd to like 6000 rpm then shift, is that bad? How bout 1st, since 2nd is so tall can I take 1st to redline safely? I agree I wish we had one more gear for more flexibility. Thanks for advice!
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 05:01 PM
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What inconveniences of the manual? I am not aware of any.

Originally Posted by Vertigo-1
I love my AT. All the fun of a manual with none of the inconveniences. Just wish I had an extra gear to play with. The only tips I can mention would be 1. keep your foot on the gas for the fastest shifts. I notice that if I shift and then release the gas, like if I'm going down a hill, it literally takes like 2-3 seconds to shift. If the pedal's to the metal though, it shifts quite quickly. 2. Believe it or not, you can actually rev match on downshifts. I have tons more fun with my RX-8 ever since I found that out.

Other then that, just shift whenever you want. I shift below 3000 usually just to avoid pissing people off, since everybody nowdays is tuned to hearing slushbox engines shift at 3000. If they start hearing anything above that it's instant OMG HE'S PLAYING 2 FAST 2 FURIOUS ON THE STREETS.
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Wankeler
Hey at least it's better than DEATHRACE2000 on the STREETS (those who can't remember what a Vinyl Album or 8-track is, may need to do a search)
Deathrace 2000....a classic movie!!!
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BIMMER5&RX8
What inconveniences of the manual? I am not aware of any.
Uh, I can name a few:
  1. You can't hold a big mac in one hand, and a supersized coke in the other while shifting.
  2. Trying to talk on the cell phone while shifting...
Sometimes I wish I got the automatic.



No, not really. heh.
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 05:50 PM
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lol. man i havnt drove a manual since i got this car and now I HATE AUTO's i got corupted by this car i swear its a bad influence.
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonHamilton
Uh, I can name a few:
  1. You can't hold a big mac in one hand, and a supersized coke in the other while shifting.
  2. Trying to talk on the cell phone while shifting...
Sometimes I wish I got the automatic.



No, not really. heh.
1+2=death for u
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 06:23 PM
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Rev Matching info please? 1st gear info Thanks!!
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 06:45 PM
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1st gear 9100
2nd gear 9100
3rd gear 9100
4th gear 9100
5th gear 9100
6th gear 9100

Oh I'm sorry you have A/T well disregard then :p
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 06:48 PM
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btw, I think the auto is cool, I was just joking around in my above post in case it wasn't apparent
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RX Renesis
1+2=death for u
Lol...thats nothin'. I am a huge texter (Text messenger using cell phones). People think cell phone users are dangerous...its just like talking to someone in your passenger seat. But texting is like composing an e-mail while driving. Eating and/or talking on the phone are nothing...today, multi-tasking is a must...hell, on rough days I have been seen studying on the drive to class. Theres nothing like the look on the guys face next to you when he looks over & sees you tearing down the highway at 85, and outlining passages in your Into to accounting book...lol. :p
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BIMMER5&RX8
What inconveniences of the manual? I am not aware of any.
There's two major fears I have with manual.

1. Rolling back on a hill

2. Getting T-boned at an intersection by a monster Tacoma with 25" wheels coming in at 50mph because the car stalls on a last second turn

If you've conquered such fears, well good for you. But you won't find me driving a manual for these two reasons.


RXStud - you can wind out each gear to whatever you want. Just wait till after you put at least 600 miles before taking it to redline, if not 1000 to be safe.

Rev matching is something that you normally do in a manual to smooth out a downshift. It's to help eliminate that jerky engine braking you get when you suddenly downshift. With a well done rev match you should barely feel that you've downshifted.

Just downshift, blip the throttle ONCE, and if you did it correctly, you should slide into the lower gear without feeling it. If you overrev, the car will lurch a bit. If you underrev, you'll get engine braking. You'll have to play with the throttle to figure out what's smooth. I find myself having to shift between 2nd and 3rd all the time in the city so I find this VERY useful. Just don't try to rev match into 1st...it just doesn't feel very good.
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 12:44 AM
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i thoguth ur not suppose to downshift into 1st? and about ur fears... rolling back on a hill can be solved with the e-break.... use it... and ur stalling... if ur experience enough i'm pretty sure it won't happen to u... unless ur just really retarded and can't drive a manual... which i don't think u r...
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Vertigo-1
There's two major fears I have with manual.

1. Rolling back on a hill

2. Getting T-boned at an intersection by a monster Tacoma with 25" wheels coming in at 50mph because the car stalls on a last second turn

If you've conquered such fears, well good for you. But you won't find me driving a manual for these two reasons.
Honestly - those would only be issues for a few weeks, after that it will all come to you as second nature.
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 01:08 AM
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I don't buy the whole "if you're experienced enough" line in regards to stalling. The fact of the matter is you could have 50 years of experience and still potentially stall the car. Heck just moving over to a different manual car is enough to get an "experienced" person stalling. As someone once said, "stalling is a fact of driving standard". The chance of it happening is always there, and that's just not something I'd want to have at the back of my head everytime I take a last second turn.

Anyways...let's not turn this into another "manual vs. auto" thread. Just drive what makes you comfortable. None of this OMG l33t RICER IN THE HIZOUSSSS NO STICK = T3H L0SE!!! stuff.
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 01:15 AM
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If your rational for not getting stick is that you *could* stall, then I say your brake lines *could* be cut and you better not risk driving your car

There's a million "could" situations, I'm not an old time manual driver, in fact my total time driving stick is under 12 months. Yet I've only stalled my car once, and that was after a few weeks of ownership - I was making a u-turn at a stop light, it turned green, I wasn't paying attention and tried to get moving quickly - my hands weren't on the shifter, my feet weren't on the pedals and I stalled it. Quite embarrassing, but thats one stall in 6 months for an inexperienced stick driver.

At any rate, you already own an automatic, so trying to convince you to get the manual is not going to go anywhere. But I think your rational is a bit off
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 01:53 AM
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I hope to Go--I mean Greddy--that therewill be a turbo kit available for our automatic Rx8s by the end of summer 2005. By thenIll have owned the car for 2 years. Two years of rotary w/o turbo is two years too long. ESPECIALLY when it only revs to 7500
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Vertigo-1
There's two major fears I have with manual.

1. Rolling back on a hill

2. Getting T-boned at an intersection by a monster Tacoma with 25" wheels coming in at 50mph because the car stalls on a last second turn

If you've conquered such fears, well good for you. But you won't find me driving a manual for these two reasons.
You know whats better than that. Get this. I was staying at best western on sun set road in Hollywood and the parking is in the back. Well its all hills and this 911 could not get up the hill and on sun set rd! All I heard was the reeving of the engine then all this black smoke coming out of the back and more reeving. I thought it was going to blow!. Then he puts his emergency lights on and his friend gets out and starts waving us to go around him... By the way I dont know jack about 911's...
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 10:05 AM
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Deathrace 2000....a classic movie!!!

Starred David Carradine, no?

A classic.......
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 10:11 AM
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With the wide ratios in the AT you should go to redline in every gear, I should think. Simple as that. (Especially since the redline is lower than in an MT.)

I don't really buy your logic for choosing an AT either, I have to say, but whatever's good for you. (I've yet to stall my MT in 9000 miles of driving, and I can't actually remember ever stalling my previous car which is another 60,000 miles on top of that.)
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 11:26 AM
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I would agree it takes a little practice to not roll back. I have been driving manual ever since I learnt how to drive. So, taking off on a steep hill at San Francisco is no big deal for me.

Your second fear is more about phobia than anything else. The common reason for stalling is not giving enough gas while taking off. It can happen when one is not paying attention. In an emergency situation, there is no way you will not be revving the engine.

Originally Posted by Vertigo-1
There's two major fears I have with manual.

1. Rolling back on a hill

2. Getting T-boned at an intersection by a monster Tacoma with 25" wheels coming in at 50mph because the car stalls on a last second turn

If you've conquered such fears, well good for you. But you won't find me driving a manual for these two reasons.


RXStud - you can wind out each gear to whatever you want. Just wait till after you put at least 600 miles before taking it to redline, if not 1000 to be safe.

Rev matching is something that you normally do in a manual to smooth out a downshift. It's to help eliminate that jerky engine braking you get when you suddenly downshift. With a well done rev match you should barely feel that you've downshifted.

Just downshift, blip the throttle ONCE, and if you did it correctly, you should slide into the lower gear without feeling it. If you overrev, the car will lurch a bit. If you underrev, you'll get engine braking. You'll have to play with the throttle to figure out what's smooth. I find myself having to shift between 2nd and 3rd all the time in the city so I find this VERY useful. Just don't try to rev match into 1st...it just doesn't feel very good.
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonHamilton
If your rational for not getting stick is that you *could* stall, then I say your brake lines *could* be cut and you better not risk driving your car

There's a million "could" situations, I'm not an old time manual driver, in fact my total time driving stick is under 12 months. Yet I've only stalled my car once, and that was after a few weeks of ownership - I was making a u-turn at a stop light, it turned green, I wasn't paying attention and tried to get moving quickly - my hands weren't on the shifter, my feet weren't on the pedals and I stalled it. Quite embarrassing, but thats one stall in 6 months for an inexperienced stick driver.

At any rate, you already own an automatic, so trying to convince you to get the manual is not going to go anywhere. But I think your rational is a bit off
Is there any chance my cup holder "could" cool to below 1500 degrees??
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