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zoom44 02-28-2006 03:39 PM

Speculation : RX-8 face lift
 
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ive been thinking about this so just want to get my thoughts down. A face lift is coming in 2008 for probably the USA MY 2009 RX-8 here is where im thinking is going. first these pics

CX-7 MS6 MS3 and Kabura front

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/1...ssport.500.jpg

http://photocdn.sohu.com/20060125/Img241600532.jpg

http://news.chinacars.com/images_dbx.../2/15/2714.jpg

https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...id=71216&stc=1

now MS3 Rear and Kabura Rear

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/6758/mazda22wr.jpg

http://faimg1.forum-auto.com/mesimag...ept-761186.jpg

so im thinking that its pretty obvious we are seeing a new style for the Mazda corporate grill. and that lower tail area of the MS3 and Kabura have similar design with the sort of trapezoid center with horizontal "wings".

so my point is i believe we are seeing a foreshadowing of the face lift for the rx-8- versions of this grill and lower rear valance.

XDEEDUBBX 02-28-2006 03:48 PM

Very insteresting, i hope they don't create a center grill up where the hood is, I love the clean and simple look.

silver_8 02-28-2006 03:55 PM

interesting...i guess it'll have to grow on me. thanks for the pics.

zoom44 02-28-2006 04:20 PM

any chop artists want to take a shot at putting that kabura front bumper on a red 8?

tekk's 8 02-28-2006 04:24 PM

Wow, that looks kinda weird. But I guess it'll have to grow on me too.

cjkim 02-28-2006 04:52 PM

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here's a crude attempt
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...id=71217&stc=1
:puke: let's hope my attempt just sucked

BunnyGirl 02-28-2006 05:13 PM

Looks like a good bird catcher!!! My mom's 2000 MPV has much smaller indents in the bumper down low than that car does and I swear it must just eat birds. We have found so many of them dead inside the cut out/indent looking things.

TownDrunk 02-28-2006 05:24 PM

Uh... Ummm... Uh.. Damn.... That would be a shame (Thanks for giving it a try cjkim)...

fray 02-28-2006 05:26 PM

Middle pointed grills MUST go. I hate the Cadillac pointed nose.. yuck.

Spin9k 02-28-2006 05:35 PM

That's front's damn ugly... sortof like a 3 or a 6 I guess

... things that turn me off big time about some car makers decoration... is how some... want to stick they freaking huge badges (like a ribbon on a pkg) smack in the front of every freaking vehicle thay produce. Not naming names, and corporate identity is fine, but IMHO it just should be kept (very) low key and rather let the 'design profile' highlight the unique design and ID the manufacturer for the consumer (like our beloved RX-8) rather than blatant logo badging.

jasonusRX8 02-28-2006 05:39 PM

interesting, I like the center exhaust, the headlights are a bit much and the rear is too narrow.

mikeyfuzz 02-28-2006 05:59 PM

Nice picture cjkim, I just hope your wrong. :fingersx:

XDEEDUBBX 02-28-2006 06:09 PM

looks like a pontiac solstice now..hahaha

astro 02-28-2006 06:30 PM

If it ain't broke... why fix it?

I like the looks of the RX8 even after 3 years. Seriously... it has "aged" very well. Most other manufacturers change minute details just to freshen up the car in their yearly new model changes. Mazda RX8 doesn't need much change in the 3 years it has been out due to it's uniqueness in design. <--- It kind of makes you feel good as you know in the 3 years... your car still looks like the current model.

If the changes are coming... I hope they don't hit it with the "ugly stick".

Mechanically... is where I am hoping the changes are to a greater effect!

^ 3 rotors, Brembo 6 pot (front) and 4 pot (rear) brakes.

Imagine... would they ever call an RX8 slow??? (Dreaming is not a crime.)

Raptor2k 02-28-2006 06:38 PM

^agreed. Just like the S2000s, minor changes are acceptable, but I don't see why or how they should change the major looks of the rx8.

Btw, people need to stop dreaming about Mazda giving us 3 rotors. It's not going to happen until 3 rotor engines can pass emission standards.

Tamas 02-28-2006 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by Raptor2k
Btw, people need to stop dreaming about Mazda giving us 3 rotors. It's not going to happen until 3 rotor engines can pass emission standards.

...and until they figure out how to make it not to guzzle fuel :p:

astro 02-28-2006 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by Raptor2k
Btw, people need to stop dreaming about Mazda giving us 3 rotors. It's not going to happen until 3 rotor engines can pass emission standards.

WAAAAAA!!!! I know! We are probably stuck with 2 rotors.

snizzle 02-28-2006 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by Raptor2k
Btw, people need to stop dreaming about Mazda giving us 3 rotors. It's not going to happen until 3 rotor engines can pass emission standards.


Originally Posted by Tamas
and until they figure out how to make it not to guzzle fuel

So basically never....

They haven't figured out how to get the 2 rotor not to guzzle fuel. EPA anyone?

Raptor2k 02-28-2006 07:09 PM

OT: And now my sunroof just started rattling today while it's open and there's fog in my left taillight after washing my car yesterday. Dammit :wallbash:

cjkim 02-28-2006 11:55 PM

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https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...id=71237&stc=1
MORE likely chop... still pretty bad

zaglo6204 03-01-2006 12:00 AM

cjkim, youve got some pretty darn good photoshop skills.... that second one looks especially clean. i dont like the change, but you made it look real.... I ENVY YOU. congratulations.

zoom44 03-01-2006 02:34 PM

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cjkim can you make the openigns larger reaching from the top red line in my pic to the bottom one? also would you make the mesh more out front and prominent like on the cx-7? thanks heaps- i tried to do it in paint- and i have no skill. uggh;)

edit: actually the top line now that i think of it should be about right thru the mazda emblem. thanks again

zoom44 03-01-2006 02:35 PM

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ok for everyones enjoyment here is my horrible paint version. let the ridicule begin :hahano:

Mazdaspeed RX8 ver2 03-01-2006 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by zoom44
ok for everyones enjoyment here is my horrible paint version. let the ridicule begin :hahano:

OH MY GOD! Haha, just kidding, its not that bad really for paint. Anyways, looks just like the mazdaspeed kit now just with an indent in the middle of the grille. Pretty nice, you probably do better than i can though. haha.

EDIT: Also want to add that yeah, the bigger opening for the oil coolers are a number one for me and i like the picture. and the way you made the front look. Just a little freshening up and it'll look clean.

zoom44 03-01-2006 02:43 PM

yeah in my pic it is like the mazdspeed but i think it will be a little different, more aston martinish - especially when you have the grilles really out front like with the other models.

we'll have to work on the back next;)

cjkim 03-01-2006 02:55 PM

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so get rid of that lower lip damn thingy outlined in the picture?
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...id=71268&stc=1

zoom44 03-01-2006 02:58 PM

yeah!

brillo 03-01-2006 03:03 PM

Zoom will be heading Mazda's new Oregon Design Studio :D:

RA-Eight 03-01-2006 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by zoom44
ok for everyones enjoyment here is my horrible paint version. let the ridicule begin :hahano:
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...chmentid=71267

LOL. Somwhere on some other forum, someone will post this pic and ask if anyone has seen this spy shot of the new facelift.

zoom44 03-01-2006 03:22 PM

brillo- i could use thejob:)

and LOL if some one finds that on another site you have got to tell me:D:

cjkim 03-01-2006 03:41 PM

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that was pretty tough. i think the dams aren't proportional though

cjkim 03-01-2006 03:54 PM

hmm, forgot the mesh

Glyphon 03-01-2006 04:04 PM

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based off the cx7 and the 3 & 6, i think the facelift could go in this direction...

i put current and my speculation together for easier comparison.

cjkim 03-01-2006 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by Glyphon
based off the cx7 and the 3 & 6, i think the facelift could go in this direction...

i put current and my speculation together for easier comparison.

interesting, but i hope not :mdrmed:

zoom44 03-01-2006 04:21 PM

definetly liking CJ's now and liking the direction that glyphons is headed also. just a little refinement

Glyphon 03-01-2006 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cjkim
interesting, but i hope not :mdrmed:

haha, that's how i feel about the mazda emblem holder on your versions :mdrmed:

v2.

cjkim 03-01-2006 04:41 PM

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added mesh and fogs in two different styles.
personally, i don't like the second one.

Glyphon 03-01-2006 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by cjkim
added mesh and fogs in two different styles.
personally, i don't like the second one.

i don't see a difference between the two... :confused:

cjkim 03-01-2006 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Glyphon
haha, that's how i feel about the mazda emblem holder on your versions :mdrmed:

v2.

hehe, never said i like the kabura emblem holders either. don't think its too bad though.

something about yours though. is that shadowed part supposed to be like the CX-7's grill thingy? see picture
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...id=71279&stc=1

zaglo6204 03-01-2006 04:50 PM

cjkim, i cant stop drooling over your skills... any tricks of the trade you would like to share? its just so real....!!!

Glyphon 03-01-2006 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by cjkim
hehe, never said i like the kabura emblem holders either. don't think its too bad though.

something about yours though. is that shadowed part supposed to be like the CX-7's grill thingy? see picture
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...id=71279&stc=1

yup...i tried it with the double opening, like on the ms6 picture on the first page, and it was waaaay too busy, so stuck with the single opening.

cjkim 03-01-2006 04:52 PM

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Glyphon 03-01-2006 04:53 PM

oooooooooooooooooooooooh. yeah, i don't really care for the non-lip version either.

cjkim 03-01-2006 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Glyphon
haha, that's how i feel about the mazda emblem holder on your versions :mdrmed:

v2.

i like that actually. just a couple criticisms
your grill doesn't look too much like a grill.. looks kind of like the hood isn't closed fully. and i also doubt there will be a grill there for one reason. if you look at the nose shapes of the mazda car's that do have a grill/double grill, the noses on them are relatively flatter and longer, whereas in the 8, the hood draws farther into the nose with a more gradual slope. hard to explain, see picture
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...id=71281&stc=1

Glyphon 03-01-2006 05:40 PM

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i see what you're saying, but there isn't a reason why there couldn't be a scoop-grill there.

i redid the manip so that it looked like a design element rather than a funked up hood that doesn't close right.

Glyphon 03-01-2006 05:41 PM

still not perfect, but better. since i'm still at work, manips have to rather quick and somewhat dirty.

zoom44 03-01-2006 07:34 PM

https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...id=71278&stc=1


https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...chmentid=71282

yep this is the direction i think they'll go. they've done the black bar on the other cars an mazdaspeed 8 kit to hide the crash bar, i think the emblem holder looks better for that . i kinda like the no lip for the center and then let the mesh for the oil coolers be recessed. but i like elements of all of these. thank you gentlemen:D:

cjkim 03-01-2006 07:36 PM

and don't forget you're take on it zoom!!
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...chmentid=71267
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
now the back!!

LionZoo 03-01-2006 09:21 PM

I think the side intakes should be a bit smaller and they won't have mesh. My reasoning? Well, if the side intakes do have mesh, they'd have to make two different versions; one without foglight holes and the other with. That would drive production costs up for such a minor thing, so I don't see them doing it. In that case, such a big side intake would not match with the center, so I see the size being smaller. Anyway, this is complete speculation, I have no idea how (if) the facelift will look like!

cjkim 03-01-2006 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LionZoo
I think the side intakes should be a bit smaller and they won't have mesh. My reasoning? Well, if the side intakes do have mesh, they'd have to make two different versions; one without foglight holes and the other with. That would drive production costs up for such a minor thing, so I don't see them doing it. In that case, such a big side intake would not match with the center, so I see the size being smaller. Anyway, this is complete speculation, I have no idea how (if) the facelift will look like!

good point, but they COULD do something like they did with the msp 6. see picture, hard to see, but i brightened it up so you could see it.
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...id=71297&stc=1
still, this was just my image of what zoom requested sooooo :bootyshak
:mdrmed: :mdrmed: :mdrmed: :mdrmed:


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