First, I don't think its appropriate for a 'moderator' to close a thread unless its considered 'offensive and inappropriate'. Why? Because its a discussion... and its SOMEONEs issue and therefore deserves the attention and replies, and the ability to reply-to comments made. However...thats a moderators right, I suppose-- but this isn't East Berlin around 1970, is it?

On a side note, if you guys are short on disk-space... Fine-fine..delete/close the thread because its just a rant... I just wanted a place to voice my opinion.

/end rant.

As far as my 'launching, etc'... and 'driving like a grandma': Firstly, the car I launched was a demo with 5k miles on it, not mine... So, whoever posted the retarded statement about wondering why I don't get more than 14mpg... PLEASE read or quote the ENTIRE thread instead of just snipping some portion to make yourself look smart...because it was just a jackass thing to say. The vehicle I own and drive, is driven about as hard as my mother would drive a Honda Accord on a Sunday going to church.

Second, as said, I have a S2K, and I DO NOT drive it like a grand-ma..infact, I drive it like a freaking maniac..and even then, I RARELY get under 19mpg... and thats on a vehicle that clearly out accelerates and performs to my RX-8. In all areas..no competition... it just flat out spanks the snot outta the RX-8. Period. I own the Rx-8 for the 4 seats, not to race it..and thus, drive it like a 'reasonable and prudent' adult would. Yet a 2.0L 4 banger screaming at 6-9k RPM as often as the streets permit gets 30% better gas milage... I just don't get it.

Yet..still... even with such a reserved style of driving, I'm seeing 12.5-14mpg... a 5-8 mpg LESS average than a similar vehicle (in HP and weight). This, to ME, does not make sense.

As far as octane 87 versus 93 getting better gas milage..I think thats just silly talk. More octate doesn't give more power or efficently... it simply prevents knocking/pinging... these motors should be more than fine on ~87-89 octane... The only reason (IMHO) to run higher octain is IF you are actually pinging...

-- Aaron

 

Bye

 

Aaron, I think the thread was closed simply because there was nothing new being added to the issue. Same old stories and conclusions. I'm sure the moderator was not acting to spite you or your thread, I think some searches would have found the same information, over and over again, again, again, agai, aga, ag.. zzzzzzzzzzz..............

 

I'm only going to respond to this because the rest of it is just, "Don't like it, sell it crap".

If you ping, you've already lost. The point of higher octane in a nut shell is to prevent the engine from retarding the engine due to PREVENTION of knock. In another words, the higher octane resists knocking better.

 

right on

 

yes, you are the guy that on the s2000 forum called the Rx -8 your "beater", am I right? I think I read your thread. I'll have to search.

you bias towards the s2000 is so wrong its not even funny. To point the first flaw in your statement about the s2000 beating the rx8 in "all catagories". First off, The s2000 is a fine car I drive my friends alot. For me to point out that the rx-8 out brakes the S2000 by a substantial margin, probably wouldnt go over well with you would it?

How bout to point out that the rx-8 tested skid pad #'s from .88 to .92, the EXACT #'s the S2000 got in various tests. That wouldn't go ever well either, would it?

The fact is the rx-8's chassis is stiffer than the s2000's and has a superior suspension setup as well as braking system. The S2000 has a better power to weight and a stiffer suspension. So the advantage the S2000 has is merely the fact that its 200 lbs lighter.

Next, if you were looking for a car with great gas mileage, you should have got a civic. The rx8 is not going to give you as good as gas mileage as your S2000, its a fact, get over it.

You are a whiney little bitch and I hope your *** gets banned from this forum. Infact, I hope you get 2 miles per gallon and trade in your car for that lovely civic so someone else can appreciate your car.

You annoy me. You are a whiner and quite frankly you make me sick.

Have a nice day jack ***.

 

OK....you have your sports car (S2K)........why do you own an Rx8? You need it for 4 seats and you drive it like "a mother going to church".....

you overpaid for a family hauler. Get an accord and save some money.

 

I'm feelin' the love in this room...

lol

 

Right on

 

in this thread:

http://forums.s2ki.com/forums/showth...hreadid=171780


someone asked him about the fuel economy he replied:


I've got about 100miles on it so far... 1/2 tank left so far.. so, I have NO clue about MPG.. but honestly...do any of us buy a "sports" car for fuel ecomony?

Might as well ask about my tread wear :-)

Its fun... easy as that!

Perfect?? Nah..but what is.. okay, A F-40... or 911 Twin Turbo.. MIGHT qualify as perfect..

-- Aaron

Funny how before you dont buy a sporty car for fuel economy, but now its a beater that gets crappy gas mileage.


Hmmm wait...he also said...
Acceleration is VERY similar (The S2K is marginally faster, I'm buying the ECU mod to add 25rwhp to the RX-8 which should put both cars into a 'whos the better driver' performance level).

Wait...before acceleration was very similar with the s2k "marginally" faster. Now the rx-8 is a dog and the s2000 craps all over it.

I think someone is need some cheese with his whine.

 

Man, if you really want to KNOW why your car is getting poor mileage, and what issues might be a part of that then just do the search. There are a thousand threads on it, but I can tell you now that they all boil down to . . . we don't know. The variation in people's mileage seems to go from car to car, and there doesn't seem to be a central discernable reason. Lots of specualtion, but nothing which comes screaming out as a central reason.

Further, can we not tee off on this guy. He has a grand total of 22 posts on this forum so he doesn't know what annoys us.

And actually as I was running down the list of threads, this thread puts forward the reason that your thread was closed. https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...threadid=18657

 

I have to say that I agree with amartin. If we're going to get technical about it, more than half the threads on these forums are redundant so they should all be closed as well.

These forums are a source of information but they are also a source of entertainment and as long as nobody crosses the line, I think the discussions should be left alone. Uninteresting/redundant disussions will find their way to the bottom of the page on their own.

If amartin's original thread was closed, does that mean nobody can ever talk about poor gas mileage anymore? Flooding issues have been beaten to death so are those topics off limits as well? Lack of head room with sunroof? No low end torque? Should I buy an 8? What color should I get? Which snow tires? What weight of oil? How often should I change oil? The list of topics that have been discussed more than once goes on and on.

There are over 4000 threads in this folder. Do you really think that each new thread that starts from today will be a completely original topic that has not been discussed in some way, shape, or form before? There is a difference between moderating and censorship...let's not cross the line.

 

A very interesting statement, and well said.

 

the kid is no noob. He's got over 1800 posts on the 2K forum. He knows how this stuff works. Some samples of his posts:

• I go through cars like women buy shoes...
• The S2K is marginally faster, I'm buying the ECU mod to add 25rwhp to the RX-8 which should put both cars into a 'whos the better driver' performance level.
• It seems to pull as hard at 5500rpms as it does at 8500 rpms. Go figure.
• I find myself speeding a LOT more in the RX-8, its extreemly quiet... you don't have the exhaust noise+wind to let you know how fast your really going.
• RX8Club.com has like... a zillion total noobies asking the same stuff we did here, about 2.5 years ago.. which is a little 'annoying'

His definition of driving like grandma means he doesn't autox, a point he makes several times. He is not driving this car in a serene manner; he repeatedly discusses redlining and fuel cutout.

And finally, don't give me that crap the poor kid is a newbie when he himself is dissing noobs who post questions that have been posted before. He's a whining, 2-faced hypocrite. Any questions?

 

Your argument seems logical to me, but it did come off as a tiny bit whiney.