Sept 07 C&D - Rx8 Backfires
08-01-2007, 07:02 PM
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Sept 07 C&D - Rx8 Backfires
Looks like John from Austin, Tx and Matt were a little dissapointed from C&D June review of Rx8 among others.....
I found the notes a little funny!
I found the notes a little funny!
08-01-2007, 07:06 PM
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wow. Not only did that guy matt rip on the RX-8 for it's 0-60 times, but he insulted it by saying it's the ugliest? I've never met a person who said the 8 was ugly.......most people I bump into think it's one of the nicest looking cars they've ever seen.
I was a fan of what the editor said, though.........now THAT was funny!
I was a fan of what the editor said, though.........now THAT was funny!
08-01-2007, 07:20 PM
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they're just jealous cause the possibly made a wrong choice when picking out a car. Just cause your car is fast in a straight line doesn't make it a complete sports car. It has to have balance, smooth engine and good looks
08-01-2007, 07:28 PM
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I loved that review! It was so nice to see how C&D "gets" what a sports car is really about—just like almost every magazine around the world that's tested the 8, and compared it to other cars.
Funny thing is, I've read almost every word written about this car, and pretty much the only bad ones are found… here! It's comforting to know that professional journalists—who got their incredibly hard-to-get jobs by proving they had the smarts, insight and talent to have someone actually offer them a job writing about cars—do know a thing or two about cars—and what makes a car special.
Funny thing is, I've read almost every word written about this car, and pretty much the only bad ones are found… here! It's comforting to know that professional journalists—who got their incredibly hard-to-get jobs by proving they had the smarts, insight and talent to have someone actually offer them a job writing about cars—do know a thing or two about cars—and what makes a car special.
08-01-2007, 07:39 PM
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LOL. that's awesome. It's like our forum, moving onto car and driver!
It's funny to hear other people bicker about the same stuff that always seems to be going on in this very forum. Only furthers to prove that the 8's uniqueness will always appeal to only a certain crowd...and oddly enough, the editors or car and driver fit into that small catagory.
I think its funny because it goes to show all the same...the general concensous is that if a car isn't fast in a line, why would anyone like it? So simple minded.
It's funny to hear other people bicker about the same stuff that always seems to be going on in this very forum. Only furthers to prove that the 8's uniqueness will always appeal to only a certain crowd...and oddly enough, the editors or car and driver fit into that small catagory.
I think its funny because it goes to show all the same...the general concensous is that if a car isn't fast in a line, why would anyone like it? So simple minded.
08-01-2007, 07:59 PM
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Only the select few enthusiasts and some of the people who have driven an rx8 understand why it's a sports car.
Just the other day, an idiot came up to me and asked "no offense, but I heard dem rotoriess be crap" "dey don't even move or work"
For some reason the rx8 is a very underrated car, some people like the way it looks, but most thinks it will break down within the first 40K miles and think is uber slow, even tho our cars do 1/4 in mid 14's. I will never understand that.
I am so glad I got an rx8 compared to most of the cars on the market, I can have 3 other passengers along and still have a smile on my face when I shift gears.
Just the other day, an idiot came up to me and asked "no offense, but I heard dem rotoriess be crap" "dey don't even move or work"
For some reason the rx8 is a very underrated car, some people like the way it looks, but most thinks it will break down within the first 40K miles and think is uber slow, even tho our cars do 1/4 in mid 14's. I will never understand that.
I am so glad I got an rx8 compared to most of the cars on the market, I can have 3 other passengers along and still have a smile on my face when I shift gears.
08-01-2007, 09:11 PM
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Only the select few enthusiasts and some of the people who have driven an rx8 understand why it's a sports car.
Just the other day, an idiot came up to me and asked "no offense, but I heard dem rotoriess be crap" "dey don't even move or work"
For some reason the rx8 is a very underrated car, some people like the way it looks, but most thinks it will break down within the first 40K miles and think is uber slow, even tho our cars do 1/4 in mid 14's. I will never understand that.
I am so glad I got an rx8 compared to most of the cars on the market, I can have 3 other passengers along and still have a smile on my face when I shift gears.
Just the other day, an idiot came up to me and asked "no offense, but I heard dem rotoriess be crap" "dey don't even move or work"
For some reason the rx8 is a very underrated car, some people like the way it looks, but most thinks it will break down within the first 40K miles and think is uber slow, even tho our cars do 1/4 in mid 14's. I will never understand that.
I am so glad I got an rx8 compared to most of the cars on the market, I can have 3 other passengers along and still have a smile on my face when I shift gears.
08-01-2007, 09:23 PM
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Reading the editors comments gives me even less respect for that magazine. Trying to inform the public about what kind of car the 8 is is a difficult task when many Americans don't understand why anyone in their right mind would make a sporty car whose number one priority isn't to go fast in a straight line. However, that's the responsibility of these magazines and instead they decided to be condescending to letters that they in fact chose to print.
And, of course, this couldn't be a thread on this site without someone mentioning how the proverbial "they" don't "get" the RX-8. Go team!!
08-02-2007, 12:02 AM
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The problem with the public (here in the US) is that everyone remembers the muscle car era of fast cars with giant motors that are only good in wide open straight lines. With that image in mind, they begin to feel that a car isn't "cool" if its not a quarter mile monster. They are confused why people would want to be slower in a straight line but faster in the corners.
People who buy cars like the 8 want to learn how to push the limits of man and machine and have fun while doing it. By pushing the envelope people actually become better drivers because they know what to do and how to do it when things get hairy.
Besides twisty turny roads are more fun to bust through, provide higher g's, and require that much more skill to pull off, resulting in a hell of a better rush than simply stomping the pedal and holding the wheel straight which anybody with a lead foot can do.
People who buy cars like the 8 want to learn how to push the limits of man and machine and have fun while doing it. By pushing the envelope people actually become better drivers because they know what to do and how to do it when things get hairy.
Besides twisty turny roads are more fun to bust through, provide higher g's, and require that much more skill to pull off, resulting in a hell of a better rush than simply stomping the pedal and holding the wheel straight which anybody with a lead foot can do.
08-02-2007, 01:46 AM
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In Europe (and elsewhere), all the places you can (and would want to) drive are convoluted, twisty and narrow. Visit Prague some day.
It wasn't until fairly recently that the average European automotive enthusiast could utilize highways with regularity and most still shun it.
One need only compare Talladega and Monaco to grasp the difference in mentality.
Two sides of the same coin. But you can't be George and the eagle at the same time.
08-02-2007, 10:54 AM
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Matt in the article states that the Z is a real sports car due to not having back seats?
I am sorry, the Z is a sports car granted; but how many other sports cars do we know that DO have back seats? I think the previous generation Z had back seats.
As for people who think our engines break down after 40k miles... How many of these engines do you think would die after 40k? 50%, 75%? come on! Seriously? Do you think the 8 would actually sell then? Who would buy a car with an engine that has a lifespan of 2 years?
I am sorry, the Z is a sports car granted; but how many other sports cars do we know that DO have back seats? I think the previous generation Z had back seats.
As for people who think our engines break down after 40k miles... How many of these engines do you think would die after 40k? 50%, 75%? come on! Seriously? Do you think the 8 would actually sell then? Who would buy a car with an engine that has a lifespan of 2 years?
08-02-2007, 11:01 AM
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Does anyone have a scan of the article they are referring to? I tried looking on the website...not there yet.
nm...apparently the search does nothing, and good old fashioned click and find works.
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...di-tt-20t.html
nm...apparently the search does nothing, and good old fashioned click and find works.
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...di-tt-20t.html
08-02-2007, 11:08 AM
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As for people who think our engines break down after 40k miles... How many of these engines do you think would die after 40k? 50%, 75%? come on! Seriously? Do you think the 8 would actually sell then? Who would buy a car with an engine that has a lifespan of 2 years?
08-02-2007, 11:31 AM
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The US Interstate Highway system was built because Eisenhower was thoroughly impressed with the German Autobahns. And unimpressed at how hard it was to move men and materiel across the US by highway.
The US did originate drag racing. Hot rodders forced off the streets and onto abandoned airstrips.
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Yep, I think Hitler set the quota for like 100kmh as the ideal cruising speed. So the Autobahn was hence built with gentle sweeping turns, etc...to be able to maintain speed...though I think at present near half of it has a speed limit...
08-03-2007, 08:15 AM
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Kudos to C&D for appreciating a driver's car, despite it being a 4 year old model. Saying that the 8 isn't a true sports car because it seats four might be the most ridiculous statement ever. Gotta laugh at that one.
Fast in a straight line is boring. Last time I checked, even racing video games are track based (Gran Turismo, Forza, Project Gotham). How boring would a drag racing game be fer pete's sake?