shiftright

I like the concept of a rotary engine, the nifty rear doors, the rigid chassis, the unusual looks and the sky high revs. I would love the lighter and more powerful RX7 even more, so don't go off and call me a "troll" when I say that if anyone read the Car&Driver comparo of the G35coupe, RX8 and the Mustang SVT, they would think the G35c won based on their comments alone, unless you read the last part of the article.

The G35c is, per the article, better looking, more powerful (hp and torque), faster and has a higher quality interior! Yet the RX8 is the winner? What gives? In the RX8's favor are a better transmission (gear shift feel), less weight, ease of entry to the rear seats and more head room in the rear. The RX8 is priced lower too (though the dealer gouging is yet to be seen). On the other hand one can have an automatic G35 with the same power as the manual while the RX8 in auto transmission has only 210 horses.

If performance alone was the consideration, the G35 would win (the Mustang wins only in straight line performance) but if ease of entry into the rear and head room in the rear are the paramount considerations, the RX8 wins.

I feel that until the RX7 comes along with an even lighter body and an even more powerful engine, the RX8 cannot compete with the more powerful coupes.

If however, your main consideration in picking a car is that it be fast enough, playful enough, affordable enough, convenient enough for four and good looking enough BUT not necessarily excell in any one parameter then you can hardly pick a better car than the RX8. This car is the automotive equivalent of .....the road less taken.....

Hercules

Before I call you a troll... somebody lock this.

Hercules

Actually let me rephrase...

Before I call you a troll... do a search please. This has been discussed to death. And by the way, the G35 would have lost by a bigger margin had it not been for the RX-8 being a base model with NOTHING in it, and the G35 being loaded. It lost 5 points on Features and Amenities because of that.

But all the things that matter... the RX-8 got a perfect 10 score:

Handling
Braking
Fun to Drive
Price
Transmission

I don't see how the G35 Coupe would win by not garnering a perfect 10 in those categories as well. It was close but get a loaded RX-8 against a loaded G35 and per Car and Driver's review.... the RX-8 would have been more than 5 points ahead of the G35.

So please close this topic and contribute to the many ongoing threads about this in the Media section.

m477

Hmmm, yet another troll obsessed with the g35, the next rx-7, and torque. Someone should do an IP check, I think we have a case of multiple personalities here...

Skyline Maniac

Herc: There we go again, magazine comparisons with absolutely no hands on experience. Yeah, I'd call that credibility. I suppose a fully equipped Accord would beat out a stripped Audi A8 in terms of luxury because it has all the gadgets.


shiftright, the RX8 isn't out yet, so you'll just have to wait or check one out at the autoshow. On the other hand, if you are interested in the G35C, then head over to Freshalloy.com and look for some info from 'real owners' of the car. I'd be happy to give you some info if you want to send me a private message me. (apparently all discussion of the G35C or 350Z automaticly gets labeled as 'troll' by Hercules)

Hercules

I merely suggested that instead of starting another thread with the exact same comments as most trolls... for him to participate in the ongoing threads in the Media section.

And that goes for you too.

Apparently you love to post but not to read, because I referred to you in my other post to a compliment. And reading FreshAlloy it's nice to come back here because most people compliment the G35 Coupe and other cars whereas the 350Z and G35 owners CONSTANTLY bash the competition from BMW, Audi, and now Mazda. The holier-than-thou attitude (and I'm not saying it's you) is just sad over there.

It's also sad that most of the people posting there are immature little kids that like to stoplight race, something we fortunately ruled out a long time ago. There will be no posting of any such retarded discussions on this forum and it's the better for it.

I have posted a message concerning the G35/350Z and if you want to read that it would probably explain a lot of what my comments come from.

If you don't however, you *will* be a troll and will also be treated as such. Elara made an excellent point that if we went to the FreshAlloy forums and our first post began with how the G35 understeers like crazy, is overpriced, and the RX-8 beat it in a competition... they wouldn't take kindly to us either.

Tread lightly..

Elara

Why, exactly, do we have yet ANOTHER thread on this issue?

chenpin

Better looking? not imho
More Powerful? Yes
Faster? Accleration yes, track by 0.1s (real difference?)
Higher Quality interior? No, that was the base RX-8

RX-8 definitely wins.

shiftright

The cumulative knowledge and expertise in the arena of automotive design and engineering, performance and reliability, handling and sheer fun has been distilled into the design and manufacture of this one perfect car, the one and only RX8. It has been endowed with the perfect weight, the perfect torque, the perfect horsepower, the perfect price, the perfect number of doors, the perfect shape and the perfect name. This perfection by definition has no flaws whatsoever and any hint by any mere human that it may be less than perfect (gasp!!) in any way, shape or form will be proof that the party responsible for the blasphemy is (drum roll please.....) a.........troll!!!!!!!

There, that should make you very happy Hercules and the rest of the followers of the perfect religion of the holy RX8. Amen.

ps. please get a life.....it is just a car....no car (none) is perfect and nor is this.....and give the word "troll" a rest.

Hercules

I never called you a troll. I just encouraged you (two times now), to post your questions or comments in the threads that are ongoing in the Media Section.

So if you decide to persist by making comments in the wrong section, and starting by saying the G35 has all the great qualities, and "what gives?" by giving the RX-8 the top honors.

That's why you go to the Media Section, read the article for the particulars on WHY they rated it better (this isn't me talking, read the bloody magazine, read the RATING SYSTEM), and then ask questions about something specific.

It's how we bolster discussion here, it's how questions get answered, and it's how this forum is a service to the RX-8 community and anybody that would have questions about the car. But if you think I'm going to sit around and tolerate your first post being a trolling one, you're very wrong. And you'll soon find yourself banned in that method. I think Skyline is well on his way.

chenpin

lol, of course nothing is perfect, thats why i made a poll in the tech section about power increase.

But remember what we've just went through.....threads and threads about torque torque and more torque. We're answering one thread, another one pops up....then another....then another

By the end of it, the RX-8 seemed little better than a sedan! Enough to make anyone's head spin. Backlash in inevitable.

shiftright

Your threat to ban forum members who disagree with your opinions on the RX8 is disappointing to say the least. Not the attitude I would expect from a moderator.

Hercules

Read my other post then. Believe me it's not just differening views.

Trolling will not be tolerated on this forum. Simple as that.

pmacwill

cars that might be perfect:
mclaren f1
AMG SL 55
AMG CL 600
Ferrari Enzo

cars that aren't:
anything an average upper middle class person can afford

Hercules

Me want McLaren F1 :D

chenpin

awww, that there is the only reason why they aren't perfect, imo. Too expensive for the average upper middle class person.

but would I take one? Hellya! :D

pmacwill

In all fairness though, I have no argument about people that prefer the G35 or 350 or evo or sti or whatever coming here and making their point, but if you are going to come make your point, make sure you read all the threads. do a search, whatever.

same goes for someone that is coming on here to ask for a picture of the glovebox, or exhaust manifold, or someone that has a question about what brand the factory stereo is.

It just gets tiring to come on here, see 30 new threads, all of which have already been discussed ad nauseum.

SO if someone calls you a troll, its not because you have a differing view point necessarily, its because you didn't take the time to become acustomed to the forum and read through before posting the same thing I've read twice a week for the past 4 months.

so stop. this thread is childish. end it.

chenpin

Exactly!!!

Lensman

Jeez, you're a generous and welcoming soul aren't you.

tallguylehigh

What I wanna know about that comparison test is where was the BMW 330i???

Did C&D purposely leave it out of the running because the competition has gotten exponentially more fierce in that segment?

Is C&D shielding the 330i from worthy adversaries???

Me thinks there is a conspiracy afoot...

dankgummy

Automobile magazine compares the rx-8 with both the 350z and 330i 4 door. Overall the rx-8 seemed to make the editors happy. Quick question, do you think there will be more torque in next year's version of the 8?

Hercules

No, but likely it will be in the MPS version of the RX-8.

danielk015

iTrader: (1)

the bmw 330ci cost upwards to 7-10K more than the rx-8. i can see someone doing a comparo with the two, and the rx will get huge points on lower costs just like the g35 did when it came out and beat the 330 , i think on CandD... anyways, the rx will hold up well to the beemer as performance is right on, and the handling is hopefully going to be similar to the beemers... as for the g35c, somebody who said the interior is nice should look at the audi, and even the bmws... if the rx8 is worse that the g35c, i would be a little disappointed.. the g35c interior is not great, as the 350z is just horrible imo

Smoker

Well, in the magazine, they just determines "the winner" by adding up point from different catergories (while each category is rated with a 10 points scale system). It just happens that the RX-8 beat the G35 Coupe by slight margin so that's why the RX-8 was declared the winner.

Absolutely, the G35 in terms of the Power and Interior goodies definitely beats out the RX-8. But again, they determine the winner by their point system from each of the categories so I guess you felt their point system is not sufficient enough to truely represent the cars ?

Just wanted to know, which of these of category you felt the cars weren't represented fairly in the system ?

said7

Well, the RX7 wouldn't really be considered a coupe then would it.