rx8 as first car? help.
02-12-2010, 03:13 PM
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Wow guys, if he wants an 8 don't discourage him. The 8 is no more maintenance than any car, check the oil and fill it with premium gas. Problems solved. Buy an 07+ and have worry free driving.
So many on this forum act as though a rotary engine is some sort of rocket science - fact is it's quite the opposite, it's simpler than piston engines and a blast to drive while keeping practicality.
It doesn't cost that much to own once you buy it, gas is NOT that expensive people nor is insurance. He will likely be on his parents insurance policy so put it in one of their names and problem solved.
Sheesh we don't own Lambo's here people.
So many on this forum act as though a rotary engine is some sort of rocket science - fact is it's quite the opposite, it's simpler than piston engines and a blast to drive while keeping practicality.
It doesn't cost that much to own once you buy it, gas is NOT that expensive people nor is insurance. He will likely be on his parents insurance policy so put it in one of their names and problem solved.
Sheesh we don't own Lambo's here people.
02-12-2010, 03:17 PM
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Exactly - his GTO insurance is cheaper because spare parts are cheaper it's domestic vs. import. My Sky's insurance is about half of my 8's insurance despite being a two door convertible with more HP and a higher MSRP. It's simple - parts for the 8 are expensive therefore insurance is high.
HP typically means nothing for a car's insurance cost.
I'm with you Zach
HP typically means nothing for a car's insurance cost.
I'm with you Zach
02-12-2010, 04:04 PM
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Exactly - his GTO insurance is cheaper because spare parts are cheaper it's domestic vs. import. My Sky's insurance is about half of my 8's insurance despite being a two door convertible with more HP and a higher MSRP. It's simple - parts for the 8 are expensive therefore insurance is high.
HP typically means nothing for a car's insurance cost.
I'm with you Zach
HP typically means nothing for a car's insurance cost.
I'm with you Zach
Also you are nuts if you think GTO parts are cheap, it's not a Fbody, it's a Holden. One headlight goes for 800ish New, used seats go for 900$ for the set. The parts cost so much most places just toal the car if it has been wrecked.
Anyways back to the toppic. Are you willing to spend that much money each month? and for how long? I know driving a beater might sound sucky, but some times it's worth it if you are putting $1,200 in your pocket each month. When you do get like 10k you can go drop a nice down on a car and have low payments to deal with, and you might never get upside down if for some reason you need to sell.
It might be too late for that.
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02-12-2010, 05:53 PM
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Lol ****.. I was saying that cause my sports car was cheaper then my 4door car that was of the same year.
Also you are nuts if you think GTO parts are cheap, it's not a Fbody, it's a Holden. One headlight goes for 800ish New, used seats go for 900$ for the set. The parts cost so much most places just toal the car if it has been wrecked.
Anyways back to the toppic. Are you willing to spend that much money each month? and for how long? I know driving a beater might sound sucky, but some times it's worth it if you are putting $1,200 in your pocket each month. When you do get like 10k you can go drop a nice down on a car and have low payments to deal with, and you might never get upside down if for some reason you need to sell.
It might be too late for that.
Also you are nuts if you think GTO parts are cheap, it's not a Fbody, it's a Holden. One headlight goes for 800ish New, used seats go for 900$ for the set. The parts cost so much most places just toal the car if it has been wrecked.
Anyways back to the toppic. Are you willing to spend that much money each month? and for how long? I know driving a beater might sound sucky, but some times it's worth it if you are putting $1,200 in your pocket each month. When you do get like 10k you can go drop a nice down on a car and have low payments to deal with, and you might never get upside down if for some reason you need to sell.
It might be too late for that.
As for the car, I still say he should get an 8. Why drive a beater when you can drive your dream car? I wanted an RX-8 since I read about them on Howstuffworks.com in 2001. Finally in 2008 I got one, then another in 09
If he wants an RX-8 we should be here to answer his questions about the car not to say go buy a civic...
02-12-2010, 06:34 PM
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I think you guys are forgetting that he's a junior in high school. That means in a little over a year he's going to have a drastic drop in disposable income, whether he goes to college or moves out and starts paying his own bills. Think about it, he's basing his decision on how much money he has in his pocket now, that's not going to last unless he wants to keep living at home in his 20s.
And he'll be buying an older car that is out of warranty or soon will be. The gas and maintenance will be bad enough (say what you will, but the 8 *is* more expensive to take care of than a beater car), and he'll soon be one minor wreck or breakdown from having a broken car that he can't afford to fix.
Sorry for the negativity, but be realistic. Would you really want him to get an 8 now, only to have to sell it at a huge loss to get a PoS in a couple of years? Better to drive something fairly nice but inexpensive to maintain, gas up, and repair now, and then get the 8 later.
Maybe he can get the 8 now and be fine, I'd love that to be the case, he may become a lifelong rotary lover and we need more of those. But he needs to hear some realism, because it doesn't seem like he realizes that the money he's pocketing now is going to be flying out of his pocket for other things soon.
And he'll be buying an older car that is out of warranty or soon will be. The gas and maintenance will be bad enough (say what you will, but the 8 *is* more expensive to take care of than a beater car), and he'll soon be one minor wreck or breakdown from having a broken car that he can't afford to fix.
Sorry for the negativity, but be realistic. Would you really want him to get an 8 now, only to have to sell it at a huge loss to get a PoS in a couple of years? Better to drive something fairly nice but inexpensive to maintain, gas up, and repair now, and then get the 8 later.
Maybe he can get the 8 now and be fine, I'd love that to be the case, he may become a lifelong rotary lover and we need more of those. But he needs to hear some realism, because it doesn't seem like he realizes that the money he's pocketing now is going to be flying out of his pocket for other things soon.
02-12-2010, 06:41 PM
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I think you guys are forgetting that he's a junior in high school. That means in a little over a year he's going to have a drastic drop in disposable income, whether he goes to college or moves out and starts paying his own bills. Think about it, he's basing his decision on how much money he has in his pocket now, that's not going to last unless he wants to keep living at home in his 20s.
And he'll be buying an older car that is out of warranty or soon will be. The gas and maintenance will be bad enough (say what you will, but the 8 *is* more expensive to take care of than a beater car), and he'll soon be one minor wreck or breakdown from having a broken car that he can't afford to fix.
Sorry for the negativity, but be realistic. Would you really want him to get an 8 now, only to have to sell it at a huge loss to get a PoS in a couple of years? Better to drive something fairly nice but inexpensive to maintain, gas up, and repair now, and then get the 8 later.
Maybe he can get the 8 now and be fine, I'd love that to be the case, he may become a lifelong rotary lover and we need more of those. But he needs to hear some realism, because it doesn't seem like he realizes that the money he's pocketing now is going to be flying out of his pocket for other things soon.
And he'll be buying an older car that is out of warranty or soon will be. The gas and maintenance will be bad enough (say what you will, but the 8 *is* more expensive to take care of than a beater car), and he'll soon be one minor wreck or breakdown from having a broken car that he can't afford to fix.
Sorry for the negativity, but be realistic. Would you really want him to get an 8 now, only to have to sell it at a huge loss to get a PoS in a couple of years? Better to drive something fairly nice but inexpensive to maintain, gas up, and repair now, and then get the 8 later.
Maybe he can get the 8 now and be fine, I'd love that to be the case, he may become a lifelong rotary lover and we need more of those. But he needs to hear some realism, because it doesn't seem like he realizes that the money he's pocketing now is going to be flying out of his pocket for other things soon.
02-13-2010, 03:23 AM
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I think you guys are forgetting that he's a junior in high school. That means in a little over a year he's going to have a drastic drop in disposable income, whether he goes to college or moves out and starts paying his own bills. Think about it, he's basing his decision on how much money he has in his pocket now, that's not going to last unless he wants to keep living at home in his 20s.
And he'll be buying an older car that is out of warranty or soon will be. The gas and maintenance will be bad enough (say what you will, but the 8 *is* more expensive to take care of than a beater car), and he'll soon be one minor wreck or breakdown from having a broken car that he can't afford to fix.
Sorry for the negativity, but be realistic. Would you really want him to get an 8 now, only to have to sell it at a huge loss to get a PoS in a couple of years? Better to drive something fairly nice but inexpensive to maintain, gas up, and repair now, and then get the 8 later.
Maybe he can get the 8 now and be fine, I'd love that to be the case, he may become a lifelong rotary lover and we need more of those. But he needs to hear some realism, because it doesn't seem like he realizes that the money he's pocketing now is going to be flying out of his pocket for other things soon.
And he'll be buying an older car that is out of warranty or soon will be. The gas and maintenance will be bad enough (say what you will, but the 8 *is* more expensive to take care of than a beater car), and he'll soon be one minor wreck or breakdown from having a broken car that he can't afford to fix.
Sorry for the negativity, but be realistic. Would you really want him to get an 8 now, only to have to sell it at a huge loss to get a PoS in a couple of years? Better to drive something fairly nice but inexpensive to maintain, gas up, and repair now, and then get the 8 later.
Maybe he can get the 8 now and be fine, I'd love that to be the case, he may become a lifelong rotary lover and we need more of those. But he needs to hear some realism, because it doesn't seem like he realizes that the money he's pocketing now is going to be flying out of his pocket for other things soon.
02-13-2010, 08:02 AM
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Okay so I just called my company and as long as I put it under my parents name, they consider it a 4 door coupe I would be paying $2000 CAD a year so it's actually pretty much the same amount as I'm paying for the Corolla 2009.
Finance = $800 CAD
Insurance = $200 CAD
Gas = $180 CAD
Other = $20 CAD
Roughly $1200 a month for the RX-8 R2 2010.
Finance = $800 CAD
Insurance = $200 CAD
Gas = $180 CAD
Other = $20 CAD
Roughly $1200 a month for the RX-8 R2 2010.
02-13-2010, 09:43 PM
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Lol ****.. I was saying that cause my sports car was cheaper then my 4door car that was of the same year.
Also you are nuts if you think GTO parts are cheap, it's not a Fbody, it's a Holden. One headlight goes for 800ish New, used seats go for 900$ for the set. The parts cost so much most places just toal the car if it has been wrecked.
Also you are nuts if you think GTO parts are cheap, it's not a Fbody, it's a Holden. One headlight goes for 800ish New, used seats go for 900$ for the set. The parts cost so much most places just toal the car if it has been wrecked.
Troll.
02-13-2010, 11:33 PM
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I got my 07 rx8 out of high school right before college. I daily drive it and get around 17 mpg. It is a sports car- be prepared to pay the bucks for maintenance, premium gas, and pricey insurance.
I keep it immaculate. Lots to learn and lots to love.
I keep it immaculate. Lots to learn and lots to love.
02-14-2010, 04:38 AM
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I just want to say thankyou guys for all the help. Just one more question: what are some maintenances that need to be done by any 8 owner. so far oil change is the only thing I know to be honest.
Thank you so much.
Thank you so much.
02-14-2010, 05:04 AM
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Tire rotation every 5000 miles
Spark, coil, wire, etc changes every 30000 miles.
02-15-2010, 12:21 PM
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Lets get one thing out of the way. I am not one of those kids. My 3.0 gpa and working at a restaurant speaks for itself. I am not reckless or stupid like the other teens who get the car for speed and drifting. I just love the rx8 and heard alot of good things about it so i really cant see myself getting another car then that. Sure its cool as **** having a sports car in highschool but its not all aboout that for me.
Now i have a question: why is it so hard to maintain the car. is it the rotary or what. Gas is not as much of a problem. I just dont want the car breaking down alot and spending too much money. so what would be the best way to avoid that, other then not getting it.
Now i have a question: why is it so hard to maintain the car. is it the rotary or what. Gas is not as much of a problem. I just dont want the car breaking down alot and spending too much money. so what would be the best way to avoid that, other then not getting it.
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Here's my story. I'm willing to share this to you guys. HOPE YOU READ IT guys and give me some "ADVICE" THanks by the way!
Okay. So i've been reading this thread from very start. By the way i am new hear also. I live in Toronto, I'm 23 and i graduated from college and currently working now. (part time 8 hours a day). I'm also planning this to get as my 1st car. Around next Fall which is Sept 2010. I'm still getting confused on buying an 07 or 08 rx-8 or getting a eclipse GT.
They are almost in the same price range/budget for me.
Here's my plan conclusions so for.
1). I already know about the faQ about the gas that it is expensive to drive it and i think premium gas here is i think $1++ per litre. But since i'm working, im not gonna have my own problem with this.
2). I have heard about this flooding issues and cold start things and Rev it up to redline or stuff like that, So now i am aiming on getting an 07-08 rx-8 which i hope doe's not have this problems anymore which i think is mostly common with the 04-05 models.
3). About the rotary engine, I have head that once the engine reaches to 160,000 KM then it's time to change the engine or usually this is the range where the 04-05 rx'8s break down.
So my solution for this is getting a 07 or 08 with below 30KM on it's clock.
4). Continuing with the rotary engine i know that it has to be serviced at the mazda dealership if something goes wrong with the engine. Well, What's my choice? then just go to he mazda dealership to be 100% confident with yourself that these mechanics know what they're dealing with.
5). Insurance. I have already got a quote from belair direct which is 5200 a year i think. That would be 440 a month for an 08 (Im 23 years old). My brother will be sharing $100 with me monthly so this wouldn't be a problem with me.
6). Im Planning to pay the car Cash!! my budget would be 15k clean at september 2010 (This will change if i got full time at my job which i am part time by now). And i hope there will be good deals by sept. 2010 for an 07-08 rx'8 by that time
Okay the last but not the least. You know why i changed my mind of getting an Rx-8? It is BECAUSE of the Freaking sound System (Stock Stereo) can't play freaking mp3 files or songs burned from a computer to a CD!!
NOTE: I have read the section here about the mp3 audio link mp3 adapter but i don't trust those bastards at e-bay. I wish at a mazda dealership they will have the part that will change the factory stereo to a stereo that could play and read mp3 music cd's. (By the way i have already downloaded the 07 Brochure and it has already their the part number for the stereo to be exchanged) I just Hope by the time i purchase it is that they still have it.
So now for the summary of this. Can you convince me now for getting the Rx-8 and not changing my mind to get an 06, 07 or an 08 eclipse??
Okay. So i've been reading this thread from very start. By the way i am new hear also. I live in Toronto, I'm 23 and i graduated from college and currently working now. (part time 8 hours a day). I'm also planning this to get as my 1st car. Around next Fall which is Sept 2010. I'm still getting confused on buying an 07 or 08 rx-8 or getting a eclipse GT.
They are almost in the same price range/budget for me.
Here's my plan conclusions so for.
1). I already know about the faQ about the gas that it is expensive to drive it and i think premium gas here is i think $1++ per litre. But since i'm working, im not gonna have my own problem with this.
2). I have heard about this flooding issues and cold start things and Rev it up to redline or stuff like that, So now i am aiming on getting an 07-08 rx-8 which i hope doe's not have this problems anymore which i think is mostly common with the 04-05 models.
3). About the rotary engine, I have head that once the engine reaches to 160,000 KM then it's time to change the engine or usually this is the range where the 04-05 rx'8s break down.
So my solution for this is getting a 07 or 08 with below 30KM on it's clock.
4). Continuing with the rotary engine i know that it has to be serviced at the mazda dealership if something goes wrong with the engine. Well, What's my choice? then just go to he mazda dealership to be 100% confident with yourself that these mechanics know what they're dealing with.
5). Insurance. I have already got a quote from belair direct which is 5200 a year i think. That would be 440 a month for an 08 (Im 23 years old). My brother will be sharing $100 with me monthly so this wouldn't be a problem with me.
6). Im Planning to pay the car Cash!! my budget would be 15k clean at september 2010 (This will change if i got full time at my job which i am part time by now). And i hope there will be good deals by sept. 2010 for an 07-08 rx'8 by that time
Okay the last but not the least. You know why i changed my mind of getting an Rx-8? It is BECAUSE of the Freaking sound System (Stock Stereo) can't play freaking mp3 files or songs burned from a computer to a CD!!
NOTE: I have read the section here about the mp3 audio link mp3 adapter but i don't trust those bastards at e-bay. I wish at a mazda dealership they will have the part that will change the factory stereo to a stereo that could play and read mp3 music cd's. (By the way i have already downloaded the 07 Brochure and it has already their the part number for the stereo to be exchanged) I just Hope by the time i purchase it is that they still have it.
So now for the summary of this. Can you convince me now for getting the Rx-8 and not changing my mind to get an 06, 07 or an 08 eclipse??
Last edited by anthony_evo08; 02-15-2010 at 08:52 PM. Reason: Oh i forgot! About the Oil change every 3000 kilometers it's okay with me coz it's in my budget. So it's not a big deal
02-15-2010, 09:54 PM
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Here's my story. I'm willing to share this to you guys. HOPE YOU READ IT guys and give me some "ADVICE" THanks by the way!
If you truly believe that the engine will not last indefinitely, why would you want one? FWIW, there's no magic number where engines have failed...so it would be a constant worry...always wondering if today is the day.
In your post, you haven't said what there is about the RX-8 that appeals to you. Most of these posts begin with "I've loved the RX-8 ever since I hit puberty, but..."
Back away from the 8 and get something that you really want.
Ken
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Wow guys, if he wants an 8 don't discourage him. The 8 is no more maintenance than any car, check the oil and fill it with premium gas. Problems solved. Buy an 07+ and have worry free driving.
So many on this forum act as though a rotary engine is some sort of rocket science - fact is it's quite the opposite, it's simpler than piston engines and a blast to drive while keeping practicality.
It doesn't cost that much to own once you buy it, gas is NOT that expensive people nor is insurance. He will likely be on his parents insurance policy so put it in one of their names and problem solved.
Sheesh we don't own Lambo's here people.
So many on this forum act as though a rotary engine is some sort of rocket science - fact is it's quite the opposite, it's simpler than piston engines and a blast to drive while keeping practicality.
It doesn't cost that much to own once you buy it, gas is NOT that expensive people nor is insurance. He will likely be on his parents insurance policy so put it in one of their names and problem solved.
Sheesh we don't own Lambo's here people.