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devildog1679 08-19-2008 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by daisuke (Post 2602075)
The question you have to ask yourself is do you want to go around corners or not.

The 8 will out-handle a base corvette any day of the week and still be able to seat 4 ppl that night when you're taking your friends to dinner. The vette will blow away the 8 in straight line speed, and has more street cred, but it's impractical as hell.

And I know for a fact that vettes can get 33 mpg on the highway while cruising.

you're seriously looking at black or white comparing these two cars, you need to decide which color you like the most. I'd take the rx8 any day of the week.

I don't know why people think that Vettes can't handle well in the corners. Beleive me I have been in a base vette at Road America with an excellent driver and yes it can handle the corners. The RX-8 posted .91g while the Vette bousts .95g per car and driver, so yes a Vette does out corner a RX-8 but the difference is that it is much easier for a novice driver to handle a RX-8 around a corner compared to a Vette. Remember the corners we face on the street and the speeds in whih we face them at don't play a huge factor, the Vette driven by an experienced driver will outcorner the 8 on the street.

Musker 08-19-2008 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by quazmosis (Post 2602512)
In Soviet Russia car drives you!


LUEsers on the RX8club forums!?

OMGWTFBBQ

Jethro Tull 08-19-2008 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by RK (Post 2602511)
These threads should just get closed as soon as they're opened. OP isn't saying his price range, isn't saying what he's going to use this for, isn't saying which Vette or 8 he's looking at, and even tho he has 50 posts under his name doesn't seem to understand that people looking at Vettes or 8s don't put 'gas mileage' in as a criteria. I say buy a Vette so we don't have to worry about more of these ridiculous attention threads.

Hell - OP makes Taj seem sensible in this thread.

Exactly.

It's a ridiculous question to ask a forum of RX-8 owners anyway. Most people here have already done their comparison shopping and have made their decision. It's not as if the Vette was introduced for the first time last Thursday.

I've been in the car market for over 35 years now, and if I'd wanted a Vette I certainly would have had one long before now.

A rotary enthusiast isn't going to get much satisfaction from a Chevy, no matter what it's called or how much horsepower it has.

RIWWP 08-19-2008 12:58 PM

While I have never owned or driven a vette, I end up with a Chevy or Chevy clone every few weeks with rentals on trips. And I have had the Cavalier, Neon, Cobalt, Monte Carlo, Monte Carlo SS, Impala, Malibu, Malibu MAX, Silverado, Suburban, Express, and Highlander (and possibly a few others I am forgetting).

And every time I feel like someone stuck fixed-axle wheels and single piston engine to my couch, covered it with hard vinyl glued on with Elmer's, and as an afterthought added a steering wheel.

I don't care how much of a 'supercar' the C6 has turned out to be. Either these cars have their roots in the Vette, or the Vette has their roots in these cars. You can't convince me that Chevy was able to completely separate the Vette from the suck in these cars.

There is no 'compared with the RX-8'. Asking this question is along the same lines and results if you ask "Should I buy a Submarine or an Aircraft Carrier?"

My response will be the same: "Well what in the hell do you want to do with it!? And what are you willing to sacrifice?"

:banghead: :uhh:

Edit:
And I suppose you think you were going to get an informed set of information from a forum dedicated to the passion that owners have for the RX-8s. Try asking the same question on a C6 forum and you will probably get the mirrored opposite.

neXib 08-19-2008 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by devildog1679 (Post 2602531)
I don't know why people think that Vettes can't handle well in the corners. Beleive me I have been in a base vette at Road America with an excellent driver and yes it can handle the corners. The RX-8 posted .91g while the Vette bousts .95g per car and driver, so yes a Vette does out corner a RX-8 but the difference is that it is much easier for a novice driver to handle a RX-8 around a corner compared to a Vette. Remember the corners we face on the street and the speeds in whih we face them at don't play a huge factor, the Vette driven by an experienced driver will outcorner the 8 on the street.

A Lada Niva can handle the corners with an expert driver too. Put the money/power into an RX-8 and a couple of mods and I'm pretty sure the good Vettes would have a serious amount of trouble. Let's not forget that in your neck of the woods the RX-8 is a CHEAP sportscar.

rglbegl 08-19-2008 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by quazmosis (Post 2602512)
In Soviet Russia car drives you!

Best response in this thread :)

dos 08-19-2008 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by neXib (Post 2602641)
A Lada Niva can handle the corners with an expert driver too. Put the money/power into an RX-8 and a couple of mods and I'm pretty sure the good Vettes would have a serious amount of trouble. Let's not forget that in your neck of the woods the RX-8 is a CHEAP sportscar.

Lol, the old modded vs stock car comparison. Go buy a 1G DSM/CRX/SRT-4/Tiburon/Ice Cream truck/a brick and dump 3 grand into it and it will smoke your RX-8.

YaXMaNGTO 08-19-2008 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by daisuke (Post 2602075)
The question you have to ask yourself is do you want to go around corners or not.

The 8 will out-handle a base corvette any day of the week and still be able to seat 4 ppl that night when you're taking your friends to dinner. The vette will blow away the 8 in straight line speed, and has more street cred, but it's impractical as hell.

And I know for a fact that vettes can get 33 mpg on the highway while cruising.

you're seriously looking at black or white comparing these two cars, you need to decide which color you like the most. I'd take the rx8 any day of the week.

Fail. Fail au gratin. Fail a la mode. Fail mignon. All kinds of fail.

neXib 08-19-2008 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by dos (Post 2602855)
Lol, the old modded vs stock car comparison. Go buy a 1G DSM/CRX/SRT-4/Tiburon/Ice Cream truck/a brick and dump 3 grand into it and it will smoke your RX-8.

No it won't, not as long as you can't corners, as we tend to do here in Europe.

There's obviously a limit and a group for each car. And no Corvette is a really great car in the group it's in, but it's obviously a group above the RX-8 if you talk about the top model.

delhi 08-19-2008 09:38 PM

With how GM is going of late, here's a great chance to get a v'ette. Or maybe wait a bit more till Tata takes over.

PhotoMunkey 08-19-2008 09:49 PM

If I have a car which averages 28 mpg, and another which averages 22 mpg, for a 14k year, I'll save only about $500 in fuel, depending on the price of fuel fluctuating. Is it worth it to get a $50k car in order to get that $500 savings (granted there are many other great things about a Corvette)?

PhotoMunkey 08-19-2008 09:55 PM

"Should I buy clapped out Honda Civic, or new Corvette? Please help me, I've just stumbled into internetz and can't decide!

BTW, what is 'Soviet Russia'? Over here we all Starfleet Federation now Kthxbai!"

blackenedwings 08-20-2008 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by dos (Post 2602855)
Lol, the old modded vs stock car comparison. Go buy a 1G DSM/CRX/SRT-4/Tiburon/Ice Cream truck/a brick and dump 3 grand into it and it will smoke your RX-8.

I can't tell you how much I want a heavily modded Ice Cream truck for the track. Can you just imagine the faces on the guys at the Autoex or time attack event when you jingle up there with a refreshing Klondike bar and then slam through that course?

devildog1679 08-20-2008 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by neXib (Post 2602641)
A Lada Niva can handle the corners with an expert driver too. Put the money/power into an RX-8 and a couple of mods and I'm pretty sure the good Vettes would have a serious amount of trouble. Let's not forget that in your neck of the woods the RX-8 is a CHEAP sportscar.

Don't get me wrong the RX-8 is a great bargain but if you have the disposable income to buy a Vette then the choice is a no brainer, you go for the Vette. That is unless you need the four seats. The fact is that the Vette is a superior sports car to the 8 (note I didn't say practicle), anyone who denies this is just lying to themselves. I loved my 8 but if I didn't require the backseats and had the money for a Vette I would be all over it. I also don't care what other people think about the stigma the Vette brings. I buy cars because I like them not because other people do.

jiggawha1 08-20-2008 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by daisuke (Post 2602075)
The question you have to ask yourself is do you want to go around corners or not.

The 8 will out-handle a base corvette any day of the week and still be able to seat 4 ppl that night when you're taking your friends to dinner.

Have you ever looked at the corvette's specs?

MxRacerCam 08-20-2008 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by Obsidian (Post 2602392)
i've had the luck of driving a Z06 and i can tell you, the only thing you get out of owning a corvette is saying "Dude, i own a corvette!"

At the end of the day... /yawn it's no big deal. yes they are nice but i'd rather put money into an RX8 and make up the differences in performance that people may say exist between the two. of course you will never crank out the same amount of pure power as a vette from an RX8 but then no matter what you do with a vette, you wont get the comfort and driveability of an RX8.

Vettes are status symbols. Plain, Simple, Period. Does your ego need that much of a boost or would you rather put that effort into giving your Wankle a boost?

are you kidding? do we have rx-8's that make 460 rwhp (in the case of the Z06)?

do we have rx-8's that make 430 crank hp reliably (i.e. daily-driver reliable)?

i think the answer is no to both.

a stone stock C6 will run 12.50's with a good tire, then go to a road course and hand an rx-8 it's ass.

don't get me wrong, i love my 8. i think it looks and feels better than a vette. but there is NO comparison when it comes to performance.

quazmosis 08-20-2008 11:08 AM

Threads like these are soooooo stupid. Hence why i post even more stupid comments in them. To catch the people who didnt get it, my Soviet Russia comment was a quote from Family Guy.

Anyways if I'm thinking of buying a car, I wouldnt ask people on a forum or off a forum their opinion because I'm the one buying the car. What do I care what other people think? I'm the one buying the car.

This thread reminds me of the lovenotes I sent in middle school. Will you go out with me? Circle Yes, No, or maybe.

devildog1679 08-20-2008 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by architect (Post 2603939)
Some people in here really are clueless. Just because you can't afford a vette, don't be bitter about it. It's in a different league than the RX8. I own a 03 Z06 and an 07 RX8. I have them both for completely different reasons. The RX8 is a sports car on a budget. The Z06 will blow it away on the track or the strip. Add a turbo to the RX8 and the Z06 is still faster by a long shot. The Z06 gets 33-36 on the highway and 18-22 in the city.
If you have the cash, buy the vette. It's faster(strip or track), mod friendly, better resale and better on gas. Insurance... and I've had the vette since 2004, is $25 more a month than the RX8. Anyone that wants to argue these facts is in denial.

Well said. Even the all mighty EVO X could not keep up with a Z06 at Road America :)

neXib 08-20-2008 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by MxRacerCam (Post 2603945)
are you kidding? do we have rx-8's that make 460 rwhp (in the case of the Z06)?

do we have rx-8's that make 430 crank hp reliably (i.e. daily-driver reliable)?

i think the answer is no to both.

a stone stock C6 will run 12.50's with a good tire, then go to a road course and hand an rx-8 it's ass.

don't get me wrong, i love my 8. i think it looks and feels better than a vette. but there is NO comparison when it comes to performance.

Everyone already know that they are in different leagues, but except for the power and somewhat build quality on the external parts the Corvette isn't worth the money in comparison to an 8.

If Mazda wanted to compete with Corvettes (I guess they rather want to earn money instead of going bankrupt) they'd use 20B and put 400RWHP in the cars.

blackenedwings 08-21-2008 08:21 AM

*shrug* For some of us its not an issue of not knowing the performance of a Vette or being jealous because we can't afford one... I had one, I can still afford one, and I still chose to get an Rx8 instead. Now I don't have the disposable income to drop on a brand new Z06 which in my opinion is a wholely different ballpark than the humble C6 vette. If you are dropping the money on a Z06, why are you on this forum... you should have the money to just get both.

Vyndictive 08-21-2008 08:43 AM

I like these threads because nobody ever wins... just think about how many people you'll see driving today in these 2 cars... Corrolla and Civic... so many people pick those two cars over everything else. . . it almost hurts sometimes.

My father owns a 98 vette auto (boo!)... Its an uncompromised sports car really. The 8, made compromises, but to be more livable.

I don't know the exact specs, but I bet the 8 has a bigger trunk. You can put 4 people in the 8. Its way more unique than a corvette. Cheaper. And in my opinion, it looks way better. Nicer lines.

But a Corvette is a bit of a status symbol. You're part of the club that includes people that will never mod or track their corvette, but they have it. They decided to spend more money on a breakneck sports car that they will never use to any of its capacity.

I don't think a corvette would ever be a decent daily driver. I'm sure people do it, but it can't compete with the 8 on that front. Which is one of the reasons why the 8 is such a nice package. Good performance and handling, while stilling having a car you can live with.

My 2 cents... If could have a corvette as my fun car and the 8 as my daily, I would do it. But, until I get some more money. I'm looking at perhaps an old rx-7 convt. for the "fun" car. Get an 8 and a used rx7 for cheaper than the corvette and still have money left over to put into both cars...

quazmosis 08-21-2008 09:23 AM


But a Corvette is a bit of a status symbol. You're part of the club that includes people that will never mod or track their corvette, but they have it. They decided to spend more money on a breakneck sports car that they will never use to any of its capacity.
Where I'm from i couldnt agree more on this comment.

status symbol - no doubt - That just seems to be the trend with most people they think they get enough money theres only one car to buy and that's a corvette. Most are uneducated on what else they can buy. For example you can go on autotrader right now and get a Viper for 30K. Probably some travel involved but I'd rather do that and have a unique car than a car everyone else has. (secondary car not Daily driver)

Also yes the majority never seem to mod anything on a corvette, and I'm sure they'd say "well its perfect it doesnt need moding". Those are the same uneducated people who'd say that noone else can afford one.

Corvette owners are in a way like the country farmer folk, who hit a certain age, and think "you know what I've made it in life, its time to buy a giant Lincoln towncar to go to church on sunday with"

RX26b 08-21-2008 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by Vyndictive (Post 2605607)
My father owns a 98 vette auto (boo!)... Its an uncompromised sports car really. The 8, made compromises, but to be more livable.

It all depends on which aspect of the cars you mean is compromised. I would say that the Vette caters to a much wider audience - mainly 35 to 65 year old men, and because of its more comfort-based ride quality (versus the 8's handling-based) Chevy is actually compromising the car's ride, and hence, its performance in trying to satisfy all of its 30,000+ North American yearly buyers.

I don't think a corvette would ever be a decent daily driver. I'm sure people do it, but it can't compete with the 8 on that front. Which is one of the reasons why the 8 is such a nice package. Good performance and handling, while stilling having a car you can live with.

My 2 cents... If could have a corvette as my fun car and the 8 as my daily, I would do it.
Most people out there who've driven both will tell you the 8's 50/50 weight distribution, its more razor-sharp handling abilities, and its superior nimbleness place it much higher on the fun scale; which makes the Vette (and its torquiness) the easier car to lug arond town from stoplight to stoplight.

Of course, if you measure day to day utility by having 4 seats, then the Mazda wins as the mundane Monday through Friday trek-to-work mobile.

thecow135 08-21-2008 09:45 PM

suspension wise i think rx8 compromised way more than vette. vette's are very not dd friendly.

RX26b 08-21-2008 09:57 PM

A C6 with Z51 rides more like a touring sedan (at least what a nicely sprung ideal touring sedan would ride like, instead of the "mushiness" associated with most) to me than the 8, which is much more "sportscar-like" in its responsesiveness and overall feel.

Go ahead, drive them back to back and see if you don't agree.


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