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Old May 31, 2009 | 03:47 AM
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Talking AT Rx8 Can't Drift... I don't think so!

Allright long story short... I decided to let my friend drive my Rx8 which is an NA 04 AT since he wanted to see what it was like since the last time he drove it when I had a blown engine. We decided to go to an empty parking lot because we were both curious as to whether or not it had enough power to drift. People on the forum have been saying that it isn't possible on dry pavement since there isn't enough power. Well, we proved this wrong even with my Potenza RE01R's which aren't very worn and are plenty sticky. He always talks about my car as underpowered and slow so we both thought it wouldn't drift well. He left it in first and we went around a turn, then he floored it and countersteered, which made an amazing drift which was very smooth. He and I were both very impressed since I didn't think this car had the ability, only the MT's. BTW DSC and TCS were off. Now he doesn't underestimate the car any more.

Just wanted to prove a myth false by many nonbelievers here. Unfortunately, I don't have any pics or videos, but may let him do it again some time to get some footage. We only did this two times so it didn't hurt the car.
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Old May 31, 2009 | 03:50 AM
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RECORD IT NOW!!!! the reputation of all AT's lies on your shoulder now
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Old May 31, 2009 | 03:55 AM
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RECORD IT NOW!!!! the reputation of all AT's lies on your shoulder now
It's kinda late. LOL. I just cleaned my rims, so maybe some time next weekend. Once I do, I will definately post it.
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Old May 31, 2009 | 03:55 AM
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Just to clarify, it was definately a drift, and not just a powerslide.
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Old May 31, 2009 | 03:59 AM
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I can see how this thread is going to get ugly...
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Old May 31, 2009 | 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Renesis SE3P
I can see how this thread is going to get ugly...
Why do you say that? I am just trying to prove a point, not start a debate or flame war.
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Old May 31, 2009 | 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Renesis SE3P
I can see how this thread is going to get ugly...

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Old May 31, 2009 | 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Rx8 Fanatic
Why do you say that? I am just trying to prove a point, not start a debate or flame war.
Eh, you'll soon find out. I'm just going to sit back and enjoy some popcorn like dwdgsi04.

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Old May 31, 2009 | 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Renesis SE3P
Eh, you'll soon find out. I'm just going to sit back and enjoy some popcorn like dwdgsi04.

Allright. I get what you mean. I hope it doesn't turn out that way, since I went into detail about how it occured.
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Bringing the rear out =/= drift... (?)
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And... here we go!

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Old May 31, 2009 | 04:33 AM
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so you clocked your steering wheel one way and floored it...
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Old May 31, 2009 | 04:52 AM
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Trust me. I know the difference between a drift and a powerslide. What I believe we did was go around the turn fast which kicked the back end out a little then my friend countersteered, which initiated the drift. I will verify the exact procedure with him tomorrow.
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Old May 31, 2009 | 05:00 AM
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This is basically what we did just not that many times:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRRZE...eature=related
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Old May 31, 2009 | 05:17 AM
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so you understeer into a turn, and oversteered out... whoop dee doo, any rwd can do that. i think everyone understands an auto can oversteer out of a turn.
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Old May 31, 2009 | 05:20 AM
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That is a drift though. I guess a video is in order. Next time I attempt it, a video will be taken and then posted.
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Old May 31, 2009 | 05:22 AM
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so you understeer into a turn, and oversteered out... whoop dee doo, any rwd can do that. i think everyone understands an auto can oversteer out of a turn.
If your so good, then why don't you prove it through a video? No need to be an ******* about it. I'm just trying to prove a point that an AT is more capable than people here think.
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Old May 31, 2009 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Rx8 Fanatic
If your so good, then why don't you prove it through a video? No need to be an ******* about it. I'm just trying to prove a point that an AT is more capable than people here think.
Never said I'm good, nor do i have an AT to even attempt it to put it on video.

I'm not being an *******, you're just being defensive. not hating on the auto, just saying any 8 can oversteer out of a turn, including the 8... which is what you did. You've proven the auto 8 can slip out its rear, a point that is probably well known here.
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Old May 31, 2009 | 05:31 AM
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My friend knows what drifting looks like since he does it in BMW's all the time. I have gotten it to oversteer out of turns myself many times, but never gotten to be able to countersteer like he did. I am not trying to be defensive, I am just saying we both truly believe it was a drift since we have both seen it done by pro's.
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Old May 31, 2009 | 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by cjkim
Never said I'm good, nor do i have an AT to even attempt it to put it on video.

I'm not being an *******, you're just being defensive. not hating on the auto, just saying any 8 can oversteer out of a turn, including the 8... which is what you did. You've proven the auto 8 can slip out its rear, a point that is probably well known here.
I know. Do it in an MT then. Just to see your definition of one.
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Old May 31, 2009 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Rx8 Fanatic
That is a drift though. I guess a video is in order. Next time I attempt it, a video will be taken and then posted.
So you really think pros understeer in, oversteer out?

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I know. Do it in an MT then. Just to see your definition of one.
you must've missed the part about me never saying I could do it
watch any of keichi tsuchiya's videos, especially in his ae86.

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My friend knows what drifting looks like since he does it in BMW's all the time. I have gotten it to oversteer out of turns myself many times, but never gotten to be able to countersteer like he did. I am not trying to be defensive, I am just saying we both truly believe it was a drift since we have both seen it done by pro's.
well if you and your friend are satisfied in thinking oversteer + countersteer = drift then good for you. just don't compare your oversteer adventure with pros drifting.

next time, set up some cones.
if you can manage to "drift" into a corner well before the apex and manage to come out of it into another turn without slowing to a halt, i'll be happily surprised.

more than likely, you'll just be oversteering on the exit of the corner... which any 8 can do.

Anyways, I feel my ricer level increased about 50% so I won't argue further.

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Old May 31, 2009 | 01:13 PM
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Break traction and show angle prior to apex then we'll talk of driftoz!

I bet it was a good feeling realizing you could bring that rear out though!
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The AT will drift. Just get her into the torque peak and off she goes.
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Old May 31, 2009 | 02:47 PM
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