RX7 vs RX8?
 

Hey wsup guys, sorry for the un-original user name but yeah, for some reason i couldnt log on to my old user name (crusingbluerx8) so i made this one. Well, anyways, to the main point.

I was on rx7club.com and i saw a thread like this and i just had to read it. Well, the some people on rx7club say some rx8 owners are arrogant. And i just found it disturbing seeing this because i know the roots of the rx8 and where it came from. I have great respect for all rx7 owners and myself am going to purchase a spirit R soon. Well, i couldnt just sit on seeing this post. Though, there are some people that don't know anything about the history of the RotaryXperiment generation, we should give our props to our "big brothers".

Myself, i really enjoy seeing other rotaries out on the road and when i see an rx7, i give them a head up knowing that their car is great and everything. I dont know, i just found it hard to grasp that there's competition between family. We are all rotaries and we are all family. Well, for me, there is no competition between both. Like they said in the thread, the two rotaries are on two different levels in the market. And for the few rx8 owners that don't know about the roots of rotaries, please go do some research.

For the rest of us here, if you don't do so already, give props to our older brothers! And lets be humble folks and not thinking we're better than any other vehicles out there (even if we are, hahaha [just kidding]) especially to our fellow mazda family members. If you're interested in reading the post of the "rx7 vs rx8", heres the link: http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=450537

Well, i can't wait to see the new mazdaspeed 6's and next generation mx5's on the road! Thanks for reading!

Sorry for the unusual post and for wasting valuble time if i have.

-Jon

Yeah, I read this too and I was kind of wierd on the subject. It seems like some of them just want "respect"... they want us to get out of our cars at a red light and bow down to them. lol... and some of their terms saying that the 8 was a sedan really got on my nerves as well. The 8 is basically a sport compact like an RSX with the door cut in 2! There's a big difference between a sport compact and a family sedan. I also really like the RX-7s.. I mean who doesn't? But that doesn't mean that I have to hail them as king of the road everytime I spot one.

you know considering the renesis can breathe 2-3 times as well and has a higher redline, once there's an strong performance aftermarket for the rx8 the rx7 ( primarily the fd's ) won't look so tough. Most of these guys are running some seriously modded rx7's and are out there killing stock rx8's... it's kinda laughable.

Those of us who own both a RX7 and a RX8 may have noticed this: no squabbling between the two cars parked next to each other in the garage. My RX8 doesn't give my RX7 a hard time for only having 101 HP, nor does my RX7 give the RX8 shit for being "inexperienced" or for "farting out its side housings".

Seriously, I feel any cool or interesting vehicle on the road, especially nice 7's and 8's deserve respect! (even if their drivers don't sometimes)

I have both an RX-7 and an RX-8. I wave at all rotary cars as they drive by. I love driving both cars. They are 20 years apart but still a blast to drive.

exactly, they have to give us a little more credit atleast. I mean, we're new cars and all they can do is rag on us? Maybe some of them are jealous, maybe some of them really dont like us, but we're family.

On the road a few days ago, i saw a rx7 on the road, some 30 year old white guy was driving. We were side by side and i mean, i liked the things he did to his car, the rims and 99 jdm tail lights. And i waved but all he can do was give me the cold shoulder. One of the post on rx7club said that an rx8 thinks they're invinsible and stuck up or something like that but some of the rx7 owners are like that.

But again, i give props to all rotaries, and like KKmaniac said, "the cars deserve respect (eventhough the drivers dont)".

Actually, what I find most irritating about many (not all) FD RX-7 owners is their lack of knowledge about the RX-8. They put it down because it's not faster than the 3rd gen 7, but it was never intended to be another 7.

I've bought each gen of the RX-7 when it was new in its day, so I know exactly what the RX-7 is all about. Why should I bow down to them? These folks now have my old throw aways. If anything, many of these current FD owners should pay more respect to the original owners who helped make the RX-7 what it was. Without us original owners, the current 7 crowd wouldn't even have their toys to play with.

Peace, I love all rotaries! :cool:

And another thing, when these RX-7 owners talk shit about the 8, they don't realize they're shooting down their only hope of seeing the return of the 7. Kind of sad, because we're all part of the same rotary family.

EDIT: I'm not referring to anything said in that specific RX7.com thread, just seen lots of hating from some 7 owners on various websites.

nicely put hachi, its all part of a really 1 big family, theres no need to be competing amongst each other. :)

very true hachi. I agree with you completely! Its only first gen rx8 anyway. Mazda has been known to do miracles between generations. Who knows, maybe in a decade, there will be no and FD but a faster and better 8 (spirit r rx8?) I cant tell the future but who knows.

You guys need some valium. There are jerks driving all kinds of cars. Most RX-7 owners I know love the RX-8. Don't try to paint us all with the brush used on the jerks! Thanks.

Oh, and SOME of us RX-7 owners know a -little- about the RX-8. ;)

Lots of love to the RX8, coming from an FC owner. Once the aftermarket is established for the RX8, the FD guys will turn it down a notch.

And speaking of FDs, ive been hearing rumors that mazda is cooking up a coupe to come out in 07/08? I hope that car is the successor to the FD.

This is all true. I didnt say all rx7 owners nor did i call them jerks. Just the very very few. Most rx7 owners are cool about the rx8 and understand.

Hmm, i wonder if nissan 350z owners and 300zx owners are going through the same thing here?

Just to say again, i love the rx7 and rx8, i love all rotaries and respect all rotaries. I cant wait to get my spirit r!

I've been hearing a lot of that too sephiroth but mazda says a lot of stuff (much love to mazda). But to my knowledge and experience, the FD's are just older bro's now and wont be reborn. The FD's had a good run though and i want one so bad! :p But the 8 is great. My one true love right here

Just as an outside observer that doesn't own an RX-7 nor RX-8 I'd say more RX-7 guys lack respect and knowledge than RX-8 owners. Sure the RX-8 has more mass appeal so not eveyone will really know the history of what they're driving, but when you talk about the enthusiasts of either car I don't hear the RX-8 guys putting down any rotary car... Can't say the same about some of the guys on RX7club.

On another note, I ALWAYS get a wave from STi owners, maybe 70% or so from WRX owners (almost always from modded WRXs), and almost never from RS owners. The higher the performance and the more niche the market, the higher the likelyhood I get a wave. Same goes for the rotaries I'd imagine, there aren't many non enthusiasts out driving around FDs, but the same can't be said for the RX-8. It's a mass marketed car intended for a wider audience and the RX-7 guys that are complaining need to wakeup and realize that. If they have a problem with that then maybe they'd just rather see the roatry die, because that's what will happen if Mazda doesn't appeal to an audience larger than just rotorheads.

Do you live in Japan? That's the only country I know of that has the RX-7 Spirit R, a very limited run to celebrate the RX-7 and mark the end of the FD's era. Or perhaps you're getting it imported to you?

And for that matter, do you actually own a JDM MS RX-8 ver2? Those were also only available in Japan. If so, please post some pics!

Sorry to dissapoint you hachi but i dont live in japan but im a JDM kind of guy. Well, im getting it imported (spirit R) and as for the mazdaspeed rx8 ver2, i dont have one, i wish i did. But i'm working on a project for my rx8 to make it as close as i can with the winning plue paint job.

But i thank you for that comment. I'm really flattered about it but sorry for the dissapointment once again.

Cool, I'm getting a R33 V Spec II next month, we can race! ;)

Foreal? Oh man, i got to see that! Where are you at? When i get my Spirit R, we should hook up at the track and run our cars. How much are you getting your GTR?

¿One big family?

Read this:

Most messages on that thread are like this, what a bunch of *******...

Hey, people are arrogant. Hell, I'm arrogant. I'm pretty sure you're all arrogant to some extend as well. But we all learn to deal with it.
Personally, I love cruising by fellow rotary powered vehicles to take a glance at the driver only to see them smile/wave back. I love RX-7's, both the FC3s and FD3S alike. They are great for making awesome power and I'd love to own them as track day/sunday cars.
IMHO the RX-8 is a great daily driver. It's stunning. It's got great handling. It's so easy to drive and fun to boot!
But, it'd be nice if everyone could see it this way... but there's always other people that think otherwise. I say, let them be. Don't let them get to you. I have fun with my RX-8 and that's all that matters! ^^

Godammit we're from different times. The badges were shaped different! LOL

hmm i got my 8 in january, ive seen few rotaries, i got a wave from an old guy driving the car, and a honk from a silver one, younger person driving that car, i saw an rx7 fd
driving on the freeway, i pulled up next to it but i got nothing. I was right next to him trying to give him a nod but he jus didnt look at me. i ono if that was getting the cold shoulder or not, the other i didnt get was i think cuz a lady was driving it. so out of all the 7's and 8's ive seen on the road 50/50 gave me a wave or some kind of props.... Oh! i forgot i saw an fc with a redsuns badge on it, that guy was kool hahaha but i like seeing other rotaries im always humble to them cuz i have one tooooooo!!!!

Do you live in the US? If so, I'm very curious as to how you intend to make the Spirit R US street legal? It's not difficult to import a car like that from Japan, but the trick is making it US legal (crash testing, emissions etc.) so you can register it and drive it on the street. That takes huge bucks. I think there is a company that has done it for the R34 Skyline GT-R, but haven't heard of place that handles JDM FDs.

Oh, well the company for the R34 is Motorex and they only do skylines. I live in the US. People at the local Mazda dealership are car enthusiats and are actually helping me out. Also, if that doesnt really work, i have a few family members in the army that would gladly help me out and some of them are in Tokyo. The best way to import and get a street legal FD is to get someone in the military to import it for you. Well, those are my two options at the moment.

Please do not start this again with the rx-7 board. There is no reason to cause issues AGAIN. This has been brought up countless times on here (almost as much as the MPG threads) and REALLY doesn't need to start up again.

We have a local meet every month for rotorheads. One of the local guys from the 7 board started it on the 7 board and posted on our board. The only competition is to see who has a better turnout. Otherwise its just a bunch of rotoraholics getting together. Good info flows back and forth about all generations of the rotary. :cool:

Like I said, getting it imported isn't all that difficult. There are places in Japan that will gladly sell and ship you a JDM FD. But they won't modify it so it's US street legal. So even if your Mazda dealer gets you a car or you get it from a relative in the military stationed in Japan, the car still needs to be converted to a US street legal form. How do you plan to do that? I don't mean to sound like a skeptic, just very curious.

If there was an easy cost efficient way, many folks (including myself), might opt for a late model '99-'02 JDM FD RX-7. But to my knowledge, it's very difficult and quite costly. That's why almost everyone is riding around in their old 13 year old FDs and the majority of them have now been beaten to death with mods, engine rebuilds, and god knows what else.

I'd love to get my hands on a prestine '02 Spirit R or Type RZ or even a Bathurst Type R. But the simplest way I know of is to move to Japan.

Sorry Elara for bringing this up again. I just wanted to state my opinion on that we shouldnt be having conflicts with our family and all. I want to apologize once again Elara.

I'm currently an FC owner. I commute everyday and whenever I see an RX7, I would chase it down just to say wassup. One day, I saw a nice RX8 after I exited the freeway. He was getting gas. I stopped by and we had a small chit chat. He told me that he bought the car for primary its looks (OF ALL THINGS :) )

The way he was talking to me, you can tell that he was a first time rotary owner. He took one look at my car and had a look on his face like he didn't know what car I had. I told him I worked on FCs and FD on side and his face went blank for a second. Like he didn't know what FCs and FDs stand for. My point is, not all rx8 are rotary people. I stopped chasing down RX8's because when I come up next to one, they give me a cold shoulder. SO I GAVE UP! From now on, I'll wait for an RX8 to come chase me down.

I know how you feel hachi and to your question, well, it is difficult and modifications are pricey. I've done research ever since yesterday talking to a few government angeny's and my dreams have been shattered due to the only RHD vehicle allowed on US soil is the 1990 to 1999 skyline. Well, after all this, i have made a life altering decision to move to japan. I guess i'll be waiting a few more years to get my spirit r but hey, it'll be worth it to live in import paradise. Well, i'll still try to get a spirit r on american soil and see how much it cost. I'll keep you updated though hachi if i get a breakthrough.

Where do you live at? I'll come chase you down. I'm in the mood for a rotary meet in the bay area somewhere. Well, i'm a fanatic rotary lover. Though the rx8 is my actual first rotary car, i know the history. If any bay area rotary folks want a meet, send me a message!

Well I just read the thread "RX-8 to RX-7"on the RX-7 Forum. I think those of you who think RX-7 owners are elitist or look down on the RX-8 have mis-interpreted. Read it! Most 7 owners were envious of the 8 owner!

Just because we say (and know) the 3rd gen is faster and more powerful, doesn't mean we don't like the 8. The 8 is a great car, handles at least as well as a 3rd gen, has a much nicer transmission, has room for passengers, and is a modern fully integrated electronic car!

I love RX-7s....no doubt about that...I was even thinking about purchasing one over my 8 (i thought mine was sexier...and had 2 more seats :) ) but a lot of people don't see how modern our rotary is...their engine is twin turboed and our engine does not have a stock turbo...the 8s are still running 5.9s 0-60 (don't burn me for this...road and track magazine...just stating someone else's testing) this is what amazes me about this car...no turbo...an incredibly small engine and still pushing 238hp...i know RX-7s are faster...but if i was twin turboed...i wonder who'd be faster ;)

With a name like "RX-8 friend", how can we doubt you?;)

There are ignorant and immature folks who drive both cars, so I suppose that's why we get such views from both 8 and 7 owners. However, it's rare that anyone on this forum does any hating on the RX-7. Everyone loves the FD. The same can't be said of some RX-7 owners about the 8.

Maybe we 8 owners aren't so anxious to hunt down FDs to say "hi" for fear that they'll interpret things wrongly and choose to blow our 4 doors off. :rolleyes:

I don't even acknowledge other 8 drivers. It's just a car. OK, so the other 8 driver bought the same car as me. So what? Can he/she heel and toe? Is that other 8 driver a decent human being? What about their politics? Do they cheat on their significant others? Beat their dogs? Could be. I just get my kicks with the car by myself and leave it at that. It's like when I had a Porsche, BMW, or Audi. I wouldn't do the flash the headlights at intersections or sign the other person. That's cheesy as hell. It's just a car. Who cares what the RX-7 drivers think. I don't even care what other RX-8 drivers think.

I've gotten attitude from some 7 owners, even gotten attitude from 8 owners. :(

FDs are rare though.

Hell, I think I've seen more Ferraris than I have FDs. I've never got acknowledged from another RX-8 (or other RX) owner on the road. I usually look over and they're not looking so I just continue driving. (Of course, they probably looked over after I gave up on them and thought "cold shoulder!")

I've been acknowledged by someone at the gas station who gave me a thumbs up and when I gave him a confused look pointed to his RX-8 he was walking to. And I told this guy I parked next to with a white RX-8 "Nice car" and he just gave me a confused awkward nod of his head.

Don't forget to give love to your piston relatives. We like rotors too.

Had a 93 FD R1 RX-7


Have a 05 RX-8 GT


I cry when I think about not having my FD. It was the most beautiful car I have ever seen and went like a bat out of hell. I love my RX-8 too. It reminds me of my FC GXL 2+2. The FD and RX-8 are totally different cars each with thier own merits.

Any FD owners out there should pray the RX-8 does well, or we will never see another RX-7 again. Plus every one know "If it ain't a rotor it ain't motor!"

Nicely said, what happened to your FD By the way?

As a long-time owner of a 3rd gen 7, I have to say that 7 owners tend to be snobby even amongst themselves. The "old-school" doesn't appreciate the fact that the "new-school" is buying up their cars and "ricing" them out... Personally, I don't acknowledge either car unless I'm in the paddock at the track, too frequently it turns into a street-light race which is just pointless.

Well I'm an owner of an 88 S4 FC (Non-Turbo'd) being restored, 93 TT Touring RX7 (maybe selling soon to buy a 93 TT Champion Yellow Mica Efini RX7) and an 04 RX8. I love all 3 cars, and I'm going to be looking for an FB when I have the room to park 4 cars lol. Each car is completely different, each has their upside, and downside. You know what though I respect each and every rotary car out there, all the way back to the RX2, and even the rotary power truck that mazda once made. But if the RX7 guys want to hate, then let em, but when my RX8 is hanging with the RX7's then maybe that'll catch their attention. MAUHAHAHAHAHA, my 8 is coming for you 7's, lol. Still respect ya'll guys, but gotta put ya'll in your place lol.

I think it was Meeee!!! :D But I'm not sure! I live in California, and I was at the gas station when I saw white.... I forgot if it was RX-8 or 7, But anyways I said nice car, and the other dude gave me a weird look, and said u too. Then he said something i didn't hear, so I gave an expression of What?? :confused: But i guess he saw me ass :o