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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 08:52 AM
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Really? I think the 1 series is gorgeous. Not stock. But with the right mods, that car looks way good.
But not really. The teardrop headlights on the 1-Series just really ruin the look for me. Way too feminine, along with the odd curves in the door/beltline.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ZachLegend
Really? I think the 1 series is gorgeous. Not stock. But with the right mods, that car looks way good.
Looks kinda like a Ford Escort 2 door to me...

Sorta like it wants to be a decent sized car... but screams that it is the cheap brother of the family.

Now the new Z4, now that is a good looking BMW.





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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 05:40 AM
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Nothing beats the 6 series haha. That car is something else.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 07:56 AM
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the fact that 1-series is a bit *awkward* looking is part of the attraction. i actually think it looks great. it's the last old skool real bmw (but it's still a bit heavy). the 2002 was no beauty queen
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 08:23 AM
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That new Z4 Coupe is sublime!
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 08:29 AM
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I would love to see it in a true coupe configuration...maybe with the fast-back styling like the previous Z4. Something about the super short rear overhang, sloping hatch and rearward positioned cockpit with that loooong front end is really sexy.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevo
I would love to see it in a true coupe configuration...maybe with the fast-back styling like the previous Z4. Something about the super short rear overhang, sloping hatch and rearward positioned cockpit with that loooong front end is really sexy.
No need or plans with the new power hard top.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 11:55 AM
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i saw a 1-series parked on the street the other day... and without paying much attention it looked like a japanese compact... lol
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Icemark
a LSD is not as big of a deal on the newer BMW's as they can modulate the traction control through the ABS system for each wheel independently.

The M3's LSD is more a sales tool than really needed.
No, an LSD is important because you want to get as much power to the ground as possible. All the electronics do is suck power, not transfer it.

Quaife makes an LSD for the 335i. If you have an early build 335i, it has a bolted crown gear & can be swapped out at reasonable cost.

If you have a later build 335i, the crown gear is welded on and you'll have to swap out the whole pumpkin, at much higher cost!

If I could have picked up a 135i 6MT with low miles for <$30k, then I would've taken that over the 335i. Having said that, I plan to keep the 335i for a LONG time as a freeway car, then eventually pick up another RX8 when I've got the extra cash...prolly a Shinka or R3.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 12:07 PM
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1 series looks ugly to me... I was going to buy one until I saw it in person.

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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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The 335i does an amazing job of putting the power down without LSD. There have been reports (very few), that on even pavement the car can break half shafts due to the amount of traction.

LSD is limited to only the M series.

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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 12:15 PM
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getting rid of LSD has been a way for car makers to squeeze a bit more wHP out... nissan did it with the 350z's as well...
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 12:25 PM
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I was under the impression that torsen LSDs don't waste much, if any, power. Viscous are wastefull and only last about 60k miles.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 01:10 PM
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well, that was something i read in one of the car magazines... so, i'm just going by what they said. <shrugs>
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Icemark
No need or plans with the new power hard top.
That's kind of my point...the current roadster has too long of a boot...too much overhang required to store the hard top...plus the hard top does not have the fast back styling. Just my opinion.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 02:08 PM
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I guess I don't comprehend your point. It looks to me like they've maintained the classic Z4 tail/boot/overhang while making [internal] accomodation for the retractable hard top.

I like it far more than the original Z4.

http://www.motorauthority.com/conten...16-950x650.jpg

Originally Posted by Kevo
That's kind of my point...the current roadster has too long of a boot...too much overhang required to store the hard top...plus the hard top does not have the fast back styling. Just my opinion.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Huey52
I guess I don't comprehend your point. It looks to me like they've maintained the classic Z4 tail/boot/overhang while making [internal] accomodation for the retractable hard top.

I like it far more than the original Z4.

http://www.motorauthority.com/conten...16-950x650.jpg
There are two types of Z4s...Roadster and Coupe. When you put a roadster next to the coupe you can tell the difference BIG TIME. The coupe is so much more sexy.

I would like to see this newer body style as a REAL coupe...not a removable top with a big trunk to store it.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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^ personally, i think the roadster is much sexier... the z4 is already very disproportional in it's body length- ie the front is really long, and the rear is really short. i also don't particularly care for the new indentations lines they put all over the hood and on the sides.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 02:52 PM
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These aren't the best pictures, but it does illustrate the difference between the Coupe and Roadster.

Coupe with the Fast Back...



Roadster With the longer Boot and Deck...


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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 03:06 PM
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I like the fastback more and I hope the new Z4 comes in fastback too. I dont really like verts.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 03:27 PM
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I like the fastbacks too. That was why I'd totally spring for that concept 240Z if it ever materialise. Z4/3M Coupe is certainly something that would replace my rx-8. However the Cayman S is very hot too. The M feels more like a muscle car while the Cayman is more balanced like the 8. Hmm...
For the majority of the 335i drivers, their driving limit will never exceed the current talent of the car let alone a rear LSD equipped one. It's cost savings....
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 04:03 PM
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soooooooooo ******* sexy
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevo
These aren't the best pictures, but it does illustrate the difference between the Coupe and Roadster.

Coupe with the Fast Back...



Roadster With the longer Boot and Deck...


VS

This:



While I agree in the last body style the coupe was a better looking car than the 'vert, but with the new coupe/vert combo, I think they captured just as much of the look, and on a radically better looking car overall. And at least they fixed the messed up running board and funky gill fender that the first Z4 suffered from.


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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 01:09 PM
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Those little Z4 bimmers are drop dead gorgeous...too bad they don't have rear seats!

I would definitely sell a kidney to buy a 2+2 version!
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 02:37 PM
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Much better shot of the previous Coupe version...courtesy of Andy Sixspeed.



Don't get me wrong...I like the new style too!

But I just LOVE this rear end!
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