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Old 06-06-2003, 04:22 PM
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RX-8 Lost 3hp

Just noticed that mazda downrated performance by 3hp (210 -> 207 and 250 -> 247). Check the MazdaUSA site.
Old 06-06-2003, 04:29 PM
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the 247hp # has been floating around for awhile. even during the car and driver segment Csaba was saying 250 but they had 247 on the bottom of the screen. that is the first i have heard of a drop in the low power though.
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guess they didnt want another law suit
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Originally posted by tribal azn2
guess they didnt want another law suit
Could you elaborate?
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mazda got sued awhile back because they overrated the power on the miata
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Originally posted by cueball1029

Could you elaborate?
mazda had wrong info on the miata. aaid the horsepower was wrong. they ended up giving the customer 2 options. mazda would buy back the car or mazda would give the owner $500.00 plus free maintance for 3 years. it worked out great for the customers. some returned the car some kept the car with free maintanence! i dont think mazda will let it happen again. huge expence for mazda!!
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So what was that weight to horsepower formula again? Maybe a couple of may need to get on that subway sandwich diet to recover those lost horses... :D
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I don't think anything has changed. I think its always been 250 PS which translates to 247 hp. PS is the German measurement of horsepower (PS stands for pferdstarker, which is literally the German for horsepower). This is measured slightly differently to US horsepower, hence the slightly different figures.
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Originally posted by brothervoodoo
So what was that weight to horsepower formula again? Maybe a couple of may need to get on that subway sandwich diet to recover those lost horses... :D
6 lbs = 1 horsepower

You'll have to lose a lot of weight
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ALL of the current RX-8 literature, including the new brochure I just received from the dealer states 250hp for the 6mt and 210hp for the at. I don't think they would have produced all of this if it wasn't correct. Even the Sales employees newsletter, Mazda Fuel for May/June (Vol. 2, Issue 3) says "Buyers have a choice of 250 horsepower...or 210 horsepower..." on page 12. Some of the older pre-production reports had estimated hp data. And none of the current info uses German data either.:o
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there is always that legalspeak on those brochures etc. that says "everything was true at the time of printing but things could change"
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Originally posted by zoom44
there is always that legalspeak on those brochures etc. that says "everything was true at the time of printing but things could change"
I don't think that the Current sales info would state something "equivocal". There is no caveat in this literature.

The 250PS comes from the Intern'l Engine Award:
"The award ceremony will be held on June 4 in Stuttgart, Germany.

Outline of RENESIS engine (for Mazda RX-8 Type S/Japanese specifications) -Type:
-Total Displacement:
-Maximum Output (JIS net):
-Maximum Torque (JIS net):
Rotary engine, two-rotor, water-cooled
0.654L x 2
184kW (250PS)/8,500rpm
216N·m (22.0kg-m)/5,500rpm "

Note the data for "Mazda RX-8 Type S/
Japanese specifications
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i'll check my brochure when i get home i thought i saw the caveat on there somewhere.
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Originally posted by zoom44
i'll check my brochure when i get home i thought i saw the caveat on there somewhere.
You may find it in one of the customer brochures, but what I referred to is Mazda Fuel , the publication for the sales staff.
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