mike1324a

I learned on my 8 and it took just a few hours in a school parking lot. It had hills and everything i needed to get the hang of it. The 8 is an easy car to drive. As long as you have an idea of what you are doing and be careful and know what not to do, then you will be fine. Maybe a little more clutch wear but big deal, a clutch is cheaper then buying a crap car to learn on.

limepro

i learned on my friends 84 bmw i could let the clutch go all the way and it would go on its own without gas so it was very easy to get down the taking off without staling especially since i learned in LA traffic on a friday at 4pm when i started driving my 8 the clutch is alot more sensitive but only took me a couple times to really get used to it.

captain mercury

i learned on an 83 VW scirrocco. its a lot different but im glad i didnt make all the bad mistakes in my 8. but really, im sure the rx-8 can take it. it seems quite forgiving when youre about to stall but the engine hasnt shut off yet.

SayNoToPistons

iTrader: (8)

better than learning how to drive a manual with an evo8... boy was that a disaster lol...

Beodude123

Just get the MT... It's a better engine and drivetrain. If you burn up the clutch a little bit for the first couple days who cares. It will still last you 50,000 plus miles. And that way you won't have buyers remorse having an AT.

mhl12

thanks for the numerous replies..

My main concerns are probably the tires because I can't really afford to dish out more money on snow tires. Also, I don't really want a 2 seater coupe because I want to be able to drive other people around.

So I was wondering, what about thoughts on the Evo8? It's a sedan and it's AWD so snow won't be that much of a problem? Used prices are probably close to the RX-8

DOMINION

AWD dont mean it can do 95mph in the snow . You still need snow tires

CosmosMpower

I think it's a pretty easy car to learn manual on, the clutch is very light the gears are short and pretty precise. The only thing is the drive by wire is a bit strange to get used to at first and it's tough to get very smooth 1st to 2nd shifts sometimes.

It's a heck of a lot easier than learning on something like my BMW M3 which required a 100 pound leg press to depress the clutch and arm muscles of the stanford rowing team to row that long throw heavy gear box through the gears.

limepro

2 seater coupe? you mean the 4 door 4 seats in an 8 = 2 seater coupe? ive had my friend in the back seat hes close to 6' and ive sat in the back and im 6'1 might not have had the most room but definately doable. but yes in new england having only a sports car is not the best thing in the world i lived in mass for quite a bit of my life if u are worried about the cost of tires and all that dont get a sports car in places it snows ><

Raptor2k

^he never said the 8 is a 2 seater coupe

limepro

reading what he wrote he said he doesnt wanna worry about the tires and he doesnt want a 2 seater coupe which is why i was wondering if hes still talking about the 8 in that statement. he hasnt really talked about any other car in this thread so i wanna know where that came from

Raptor2k

No, he wasn't, but I'm not going to try to convince you about something so frivolous.

limepro

no need to convince it was just something i was wondering you say he wasnt i take your word for it no need for arguments on here ill leave that for my gamers forum lol

Raptor2k

Haha yea, I post on www.hlfallout.net and there's an argument in pretty much every thread

limepro

l2blah is flamefest i love it lol

RedSheDevil

lime, i read it the same way you did ... i thought he was referring to the 8 as a 2-seater coupe as well

bbtheory

I bought my 6SPD 05 RX8 earlier this year, my first manual but I had driven a few manuals in my time. I learned on my 8 and have had a few issues with shifting but with some practice I have gotten a lot better. I don't stall and my biggest problem was learning to let the clutch out as quicky possible while still shifting smooth. The 8 is not the easiest manual to drive but by no means impossible or difficult to learn on... if you are going to consider the 8, the learning of stick on the car is easily do-able.

JinbaIttai

I'm surprised as to everyone's opinions about learning to drive a manual transmission with this car. Yes, it shifts easily and the clutch isn't too heavy once broken in, but it's far from the ideal setup for learning.

I learned to drive stick on a 91 Civic ten years ago, and have also spent time in a 93 Jetta and 96 Miata. Compared to these rickety piston-engined cars, the RX-8 gives very little feedback through the clutch pedal, which is why I don't think it's the best setup for learning. When you reach the friction point in a piston-engined car, you get a lot of feedback in the form of vibration from the engine lugging transmitted through the clutch pedal and through the stick. In surprising cases of "efficient energy transmission" in "well-built cars", you may even feel vibrations in the steering wheel (i.e. the Honda Civic). When you're learning, you need to know where this point is to know to feather the clutch pedal or give it more gas.

In the RX-8, you'd be hardpressed to really tell where the friction point is, especially if you were just learning how to drive stick. Sitting at an idle, the RX-8 is softly humming along, making those great Jetson-car puttering noises. The shifter is vibrating like hell, but otherwise there's not much else vibrating in the cabin. Push the clutch in, shift in to gear, and slowly let the clutch out. Do it without putting in enough gas, and the car doesn't buck and shake as much as a piston car. Instead, it simply goes from quiet to really quiet, the dash lights come on, and you wonder what the heck happened before you realize you stalled the car. I think someone learning on an RX-8 would be far more prone to give way too much gas and quickly drop the clutch than someone learning on a different car in order to compensate for the vagueness of the RX-8 clutch pedal and the smoothness of the engine at stall speeds. While this does result in cool axle-hopping wheelspin, this is not good for learning.

Add the vague clutch to the fact that the car is RWD, essentially a mid-engine car with little feedback between "at the limit" and "let's hurl ourselves into that tree", and has enough power and twitchiness on cold or wet tires to teach drivers the true meaning of "lift-throttle oversteer" and "Whee! (also know to passengers as: HOLY CRAP!)" and you really don't have an ideal setup.

However, if you really want an RX-8 (and who doesn't?) just buy one and learn how to drive it. It's not going to be impossible. You'll stall any car when you're learning anyway. Just respect the car and try not to do anything too stupid while you're learning. I don't buy the fact that you can "learn" to drive stick in a week or two. It really is like driving in general: you'll just get better with more seat time, with decreasing but never impossible odds of doing stupid stuff once in awhile.

P.S. - You WILL stall the car in 6th gear when you think you're in reverse. You are not alone.

RedSheDevil

This is the best part for those of us watching on the sidelines! Consider it hazing before being admitted into "the club"