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mastiffkb 09-01-2014 10:21 AM

Rotarywerks D585 PnP Coil upgrade
 
Link to product Web Store

Input needed.

Pro's and Con's appreciated.

Thanks.

9krpmrx8 09-01-2014 10:43 AM

Why go with something unproven and take the risk? If you want an ignition kit go with the proven BHR kit. Black Halo Racing

If not just get quality OEM coils from mazmart.com or aftermarket replacements from a parts store with a warranty.

Ricky SE3P 09-01-2014 10:43 AM

im running these, love them. easy install and really is PnP. very happy with the purchase.

edit: many MI8 Crew members are running these as well. lets see if they chime in

Rx8Les 09-01-2014 09:08 PM

I've had mine for more than a year, love it, and great prize!

paimon.soror 09-01-2014 09:28 PM

Any idea what the harness looks like? Other than that, it should do the job.

Ricky SE3P 09-01-2014 09:53 PM

1 Attachment(s)
heres a video attachment where you could see the car running and heres a attachment where you can see the harness a bit too

edit: Instagram

cdomin1 09-02-2014 05:19 AM

They work awesome in my 8!!

RIWWP 09-02-2014 12:01 PM

I deleted the off topic conversation once RotaryWerks saw it. It should be back on track now, which is the OP's request for pros/cons about the kit.

dannobre 09-02-2014 01:02 PM

Gentlemen.....Vendors need to keep it clean like everyone else....

Rx8Les 09-02-2014 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4625394)
Why go with something unproven and take the risk? If you want an ignition kit go with the proven BHR kit. Black Halo Racing

If not just get quality OEM coils from mazmart.com or aftermarket replacements from a parts store with a warranty.

You are "Mr. I know everything about rx8s", then you should know how simple all the kits are and they all work the same. If you wanna spent $500 then fine. But just by buying the coils the rest is simple to do. It really is not a big deal like you make it seem.

9krpmrx8 09-02-2014 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by Rx8Les (Post 4625673)
You are "Mr. I know everything about rx8s", then you should know how simple all the kits are and they all work the same. If you wanna spent $500 then fine. But just by buying the coils the rest is simple to do. It really is not a big deal like you make it seem.


What am I making a big deal about? If you think all the kits are the same then you need to educate yourself. That is like saying the aftermarket Ebay OEM style coils are the same as the OEM Mazda Version C coils. Not to mention that the skill and materials that went into making the wiring harness matters as well.

I am not saying the rotarywerks kit sucks, I am just saying its reliability is unknown so the kit could be a quality kit or it could be crap. The bracket alone screams Ebay RX-8 ignition kit to me. Either way it's my opinion and what the OP is asking for.

logalinipoo 09-02-2014 01:46 PM

Its also missing the extra coil ground.

Rotary Werks 09-02-2014 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by logalinipoo (Post 4625685)
Its also missing the extra coil ground.

Mod Edit: Post removed
-RIWWP

Rotary Werks 09-02-2014 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4625677)
What am I making a big deal about? If you think all the kits are the same then you need to educate yourself. That is like saying the aftermarket Ebay OEM style coils are the same as the OEM Mazda Version C coils. Not to mention that the skill and materials that went into making the wiring harness matters as well.

I am not saying the rotarywerks kit sucks, I am just saying its reliability is unknown so the kit could be a quality kit or it could be crap. The bracket alone screams Ebay RX-8 ignition kit to me. Either way it's my opinion and what the OP is asking for.



Mod Edit: Post removed
-RIWWP

RIWWP 09-02-2014 01:53 PM

I deleted it Ray. I'll send you an email.

logalinipoo 09-02-2014 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by Rotary Werks (Post 4625686)
the coil ground is there :)

It does not look like it in the above photo .

Legot 09-02-2014 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by logalinipoo
Originally Posted by Rotary Werks ?

the coil ground is there ?


It does not look like it in the above photo .

It's hard to see, but it is the black wire beneath the second connector in the picture. I'd assume they're all bent from each 4 pin connector and terminated at a single ring connector.

It looks fine, if the coils are legit d585, my only concern would be the plastic looking bracket adaptor. That thing is pretty sketch.

9krpmrx8 09-02-2014 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by Legot (Post 4625697)
It's hard to see, but it is the black wire beneath the second connector in the picture. I'd assume they're all bent from each 4 pin connector and terminated at a single ring connector.

It looks fine, if the coils are legit d585, my only concern would be the plastic looking bracket adaptor. That thing is pretty sketch.


But what brand of D585 coil is legit and what brand of D585 are these coils?

Rotary Werks 09-02-2014 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by Legot (Post 4625697)
It's hard to see, but it is the black wire beneath the second connector in the picture. I'd assume they're all bent from each 4 pin connector and terminated at a single ring connector.

It looks fine, if the coils are legit d585, my only concern would be the plastic looking bracket adaptor. That thing is pretty sketch.

Mod Edit: Post removed
-RIWWP

logalinipoo 09-02-2014 02:19 PM

That looks like it is off of the wire. It looks like the 4th pin on the coil has no wire. Rotary werx can you post a better pic?

Rotary Werks 09-02-2014 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4625699)
But what brand of D585 coil is legit and what brand of D585 are these coils?

Mod Edit: Post removed
-RIWWP

RIWWP 09-02-2014 02:21 PM

Rotary Werks, you are dancing awefully close to the "advertising your product" violation line. Please refrain from posting in this thread.

The OP is soliciting comments from other members, not from the product vendor. You have customers with it, including ones in this thread. Let them refute or clarify any misconceptions. It probably rankles a bit that BHR is in the thread, as they have a direct product competing with this, but they are a paying vendor and have the right to promote their product here, as well as point out the differences. If you re-subscribe as a vendor, you will be permitted to do so as well.

RIWWP 09-02-2014 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by logalinipoo (Post 4625702)
Rotary werx can you post a better pic?

Contact them directly, or ask other members with the kit.

Ricky SE3P 09-02-2014 03:23 PM

I have no idea what happened in here since i last chimed in, this whole thread seems to be a mess. Let me comment a few things if i may to hopefully clear things up (even though i dont know what questions are up in the air with this mess)

1) each coil has its respective ground wire that meet together to a ring ground terminal that you can bolt to the engine. I cannot get a clear picture of this as its currently on my car. essentially looks like the following with the 0 being the grounding terminal and c being each coil.

---0
---/\
-/\-/\
c-c-c-c


2) the bracket is metal and powder coated.

Rx8Les 09-02-2014 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill (Post 4625723)
Just take a look at the lacking details in the Rotarywerks ignition "system";

1) The necessary spark plug wires are not included and they need a special terminal for use with an genuine D-585 application.
2) The conversion harness does not appear to have any kind of insulation or tubing over the wires, thus increasing the chances of chafing, abrasion, and short-circuits.
3) Even the promotional pictures are unprofessionally staged.

Is THIS the kind of detail work for which people want to pay even a mere $350?

Are these guys willing or able to provide warranty coverage in the event of coil failure?

Does Rotarywerks specialize in the RX-8 and do they have the experience with the platform to help with other issues often associated with failed OEM coils? RX-7s and RX-8s are vastly different platforms.

Just some things for people to consider when deciding where to spend their money.

I know where you coming from, I understand. Some of us have been running the kit for more than a year no issues what so ever.

To answer your questions.
Yes he owns a shop, he does legit work and builds on rx7, rx8's and basically anything with a rotary engine. He could be consider the go to tuner here in Miami for rotarys. Has done plenty rx8s mine including.


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