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ctlums 04-03-2010 07:17 AM

Right hand drive conversion
 
Anybody know what it would take to convert my 8 to right hand drive? Kit available? Legalities?

mscamp02 04-03-2010 08:28 AM

kit no.

and just out of curiosity, why would you want to convert it

RotaryP7 04-03-2010 11:25 AM

This is random. That seems expensive nonetheless.

77mjd 04-03-2010 02:55 PM

It would probably be much cheaper to import one.

huckfarper 04-03-2010 08:10 PM

It is much cheaper to import, but the labour is really what would kill you. I imagine you could source a wrecked one and do the work, but why?

ZumnRx8 04-03-2010 08:15 PM

:uh:......:icon_no2:

Fate710 04-03-2010 08:45 PM

If you were to do a conversion, are you going to go legit and swap to a 5-spd?

ZumnRx8 04-03-2010 09:21 PM

^i doubt he is going to do a conversion. The price of doing a conversion is almost the same price as doing a Three Rotor Swap.

Flashwing 04-03-2010 09:35 PM

Actually there is a kit available...

http://www.lakesfab.com/images/belt2.jpg

Belt driven!

Bigbacon 04-03-2010 09:38 PM

^-- that would be hot

ZumnRx8 04-03-2010 09:54 PM

:lol2: @ Flashwing. I rather get a flamethrower kit like Flashwing ;)

Grungepup 04-03-2010 10:02 PM

Lmao

mscamp02 04-03-2010 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by Flashwing (Post 3499164)
Actually there is a kit available...

http://www.lakesfab.com/images/belt2.jpg

Belt driven!

:rofl:

rodjonathan 04-03-2010 10:11 PM

lol why would you do it

mscamp02 04-03-2010 10:14 PM

^ to be mad JDM yo

ZumnRx8 04-03-2010 10:15 PM

^because he wants to be JDM YO!!!

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...39e89891b0.jpg
http://bhworld.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/jdm.jpg

mscamp02 04-03-2010 10:25 PM

^I just found my next tattoo :lol:

ZumnRx8 04-03-2010 10:46 PM

:nono:

ctlums 04-05-2010 01:52 AM

Why do people care why? Some enthusiasts I have here....

Flashwing 04-05-2010 02:49 AM


Originally Posted by ctlums (Post 3500519)
Why do people care why? Some enthusiasts I have here....

Being an enthusiast doesn't encompass doing things for the sake of doing them. The amount of fabrication and work that would be required to convert your RX8 to a right hand drive vehicle would be quite extensive considering there would be zero performance benefit. The only gain would be saying you have a RHD car.

There is a problem with that though...

The process of conversion would require the alteration of various safety equipment which means if you were ever involved in an accident on the street it's very likely that you would be denied any insurance compensation the moment the company found out that the vehicle had been tampered with in such a manner.

You would honestly be better off buying a RHD RX8 and having it imported than doing a conversion on your own RX8.

Quite a lot of risk, time and money for what could only be done for the purpose of bragging rights that your RHD.

So, that's why people are asking "why".

RX8sd 04-05-2010 02:55 AM

why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

ctlums 04-05-2010 04:04 AM

Dont worry about why. I would import one, however I thought that it was imposible to make them street legal in the States.

mscamp02 04-05-2010 07:37 AM

so basically you just want a bragging rights for having rhd. It would make more sense to have bragging rights for a FI renesis

ctlums 04-05-2010 07:42 AM

FI is in the works, I have a lot more money I want to dump into this

ctlums 04-05-2010 07:43 AM

Anyway, no offense but I am not looking for opinions on what I should do. just the means by which i can do it.

mscamp02 04-05-2010 07:56 AM

then sell your car and import another. and opinions are always going to come when you ask advice on how to do something whether you want it or not

Flashwing 04-05-2010 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by ctlums (Post 3500605)
Anyway, no offense but I am not looking for opinions on what I should do. just the means by which i can do it.

If there is an issue with street legality then you'll have even bigger issues doing a conversion yourself since, as I pointed out, you'd have to tamper with the car's safety equipment to get it done.

To each his own but you'd be blowing several thousand dollars if not more to get it done. There's no kit or conversion process because I doubt anyone has seen the benefit.

However, if you have the cash I'm sure you can find a shop that would build you a space shuttle provided you can afford it.

rodjonathan 04-05-2010 10:14 AM

^ yup i mean theres ALOt OF work involved and it will have to be done right as any little mistake could mean disaster if you know what i mean

ctlums 04-07-2010 01:00 AM

So back to a question i asked earlier, can i import one to the states from japan and get it licensed?

Flashwing 04-07-2010 01:43 AM


Originally Posted by ctlums (Post 3510226)
So back to a question i asked earlier, can i import one to the states from japan and get it licensed?

Good question. Since there is crash data for the RX8 I don't see any reason you would have problems getting it licensed or insurance.

There are companies on the west coast that handle importing vehicles. I would search for a couple and give them a call.

robbieg 04-12-2010 09:55 PM

Right hand drive
 
Hey,
Registering a Right Hand Drive is less than simple. The law varies from state to state, and since you put your location as "Baghdad" I can't really help you out. Most states have laws stating which side of the car the steering wheel must be on.
In Canada, right hand drives are not allowed unless they are 15 years old, at which time they qualify for an import exemption (save government vehicles and Quebec is being stupid about it right now).
So, even if there are crash tests with the LHD equivalent, it might still not be a car you can register.
In all (most?) states there is the same exemption rule, but it's a 25 year rule.
Check your state laws, talk to an insurance agent and tell us what they say!
rob
http://www.righthanddrive.ca

ctlums 04-13-2010 05:05 AM

I am from texas, serving in iraq right now, sorry about that.

robbieg 04-13-2010 10:06 AM

Texas state laws
 
Some definitions: Any car not designed for the US (RHD or LHD) and imported into the us are 'grey imports'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_im...#United_States
Some info there, but it's a bit legalese. By the sounds of it, it has to qualify for 'legal import'.... whatever that means.
It's depressingly hard to find any info about the state's rules for RHDs.
From what I can tell, if you're vehicle is on this list, you're ok
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/...elig123109.pdf
But, I may be wrong
rob
http://www.righthanddrive.ca

Doctor7474 04-13-2010 08:10 PM

There are no legal issues with having a RHD vehicle, there are many many RHD vehicles you can buy from the mfg right off the dealership floor. There are also no DOT rules as far as which side the steering wheel has to be on that I've ever heard of. Unless you are in a city almost all mail carriers are driving there own purchased RHD vehicles. I've seen everything from Jeeps (most common) to Toyota's, Honda's ect... out on the road delivering mail.

I also know of no reason why insurance would be an issue. I'm an insurance appraiser and would care less if the vehicle is RHD or not.

It would involve massive modifications to do this however it could be done. Most of it is bolt on replacement parts, the biggie would probably be the firewall and wiring harness's. The LHD firewall has holes for the steering, and brake system and mounting for the brake booster, and steering shaft. Problem is most mfg's do not even offer firewalls for sale, reason being is if the firewall needs to be replaced there is about a 99.9% chance the car is a total loss either through wreck damage, or deterioration.

Bolt on parts would be steering rack, brake booster, master cylinder, pedals, possibly steering column and shafts, and then the dash board. You are looking at thousands of dollars in parts alone to convert the vehicle, plus to replace the firewall if you can in fact buy one for these is basically taking the whole front end sheet metal off including the aprons and upper frame rails, the engine and transmission out, the dash off, the doors off, the windshield out, center console, seats, and carpet. Then you would have to drill out and cut probably a couple hundred spot welds and seam welds to get the firewall out. Then weld the new one back in, corrosion protect it, seam seal it, prime and paint it. Then reinstall all the RHD specific components. The other way to do this which would be just about the same procedure is fab the rt side of the existing firewall up, close up all the holes on the lt side but this would be almost a hack job. Third choice is to fab your own firewall up to support the steering and brakes.

I'm a ASE certified master technician, Land Rover master tech, Rolls-Royce factory trained tech, Ford master tech, I-Car platinum certified body and paint tech, and a Chief structural repair master tech. I've been working on (professionally), restoring, repairing, and welding/fabbing on cars since 1995 and I would not do this for just about any amount of money (anyone can be persuaded to do anything).

Cf05 04-13-2010 08:23 PM

No there is no kit, and its going to take a ton of work, I hope your not going to be driving it in a LHD country the inconvenience of being on the wrong side of the road would be enough to out weigh any benefit regardless of whether or not you had all the money in the world.

robbieg 04-13-2010 10:54 PM

There are rules as to the 'handedness' of a car. But only when importing. If you convert a car it's.... 'ok'. That's one of the loopholes in the system. Basically, you have a LHD's vin number on your franken-RHD car.

Evidence: from the link above http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/...elig123109.pdf
"All eligibility numbers are for left-hand drive motor vehicles except where the initials “RHD,”
signifying right-hand drive, appear in the model type column. While there is no specific restriction on importing a right-hand drive vehicle, these may not be imported under eligibility decisions based on the existence of substantially similar U.S.-certified left-hand drive vehicles."

So, if it's here it's ok. If it's in the list it's ok. Otherwise, you need to find a loophole.

rob

J wind 04-16-2010 03:03 AM

Random thought here, how about getting an rx-8 front clip? A friend of mine got his Infini FC from Canada, so maybe check what they have there?

Fate710 04-16-2010 03:27 AM

If you want RHD, import something worth while. Skyline, Cosmo, S15, etc etc.

Yes it can be done and very easily if a front clip is available.

Personally I think you are a moron for wanting to do this.

J wind 04-16-2010 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by Fate710 (Post 3522056)
If you want RHD, import something worth while. Skyline, Cosmo, S15, etc etc.

Yes it can be done and very easily if a front clip is available.

Personally I think you are a moron for wanting to do this.


I agree with your first comment, I'd go for some other worthwhile cars if I were to try and import something.

But if the OP has an excess amount of money and time, why not? lol come on, be honest. Your telling me, that if he did that to his car, and saw him at a meet, you wouldn't gawk at it?

I personally say go for it, it be pretty cool.

ZumnRx8 04-16-2010 11:51 PM

/thread no I would not gawk @ it unless it was a true rhd car. + has anyone thought about having to go through a drive thru for food or pay at a toll road? Unless it's a fully kitted8 with turbo, 3 rotor, 4 rotor, or something on the same. "WOW" factor I wouldn't care..

Cf05 04-17-2010 01:20 AM

^ lol that's what I was talking about in terms of inconvenience it'd be way too much of a hassle

Kaiser bun 04-17-2010 01:45 AM

it'd be like lamborghini doors, something that is sweet on a lamborghini, but not on an rx8.

MaRxtin 04-17-2010 02:13 AM


Originally Posted by ctlums (Post 3500605)
Anyway, no offense but I am not looking for opinions on what I should do. just the means by which i can do it.

with a lot of work and a lot of money and rhd drive parts and the right hsop youur good
your gravy

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ZumnRx8 04-17-2010 04:58 PM

:yumyum:^^^

longpath 04-18-2010 01:13 PM

While I don't know how the various loopholes work, I know there are some for importing RHD cars as I checked the list and the Lotus Esprit is not listed; but I nearly bought an early S1 Esprit a number of years ago (it needed a new windshield and I could not find anyone who would even tell me if they could get it or not, so I went with a '91 RX-7 instead).


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