Problems with older models?
09-21-2010, 05:27 PM
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Problems with older models?
There has been much in the back and forth about the 2004 (and possibly 2005) RX-8s based on articles/reviews i read, can anyone explain why, or if this is even true?
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09-21-2010, 05:31 PM
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not true
mine's an 05, 67,000 miles and runs like a champ.
not true
mine's an 05, 67,000 miles and runs like a champ.
09-21-2010, 06:12 PM
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yes and no
By the late 2004 model (built in early 2004) build most of the issues were fixed.
Most engine failures were early automatic trans versions or were in very hot climates.
The remaining issue fixed was the MSP16 recall for increased oil injection.
The biggest engine issue remaining is the weak coils which should be replaced on a regular basis
Some say that the oil pressure is too low up to 2008 model
The 2009+ models had a lot of changes to the engine, chassis and cooling
We still all have the clutch bracket issue
Aftermarket solutions exist
Mine has 130,000 km
By the late 2004 model (built in early 2004) build most of the issues were fixed.
Most engine failures were early automatic trans versions or were in very hot climates.
The remaining issue fixed was the MSP16 recall for increased oil injection.
The biggest engine issue remaining is the weak coils which should be replaced on a regular basis
Some say that the oil pressure is too low up to 2008 model
The 2009+ models had a lot of changes to the engine, chassis and cooling
We still all have the clutch bracket issue
Aftermarket solutions exist
Mine has 130,000 km
Last edited by DarkBrew; 09-21-2010 at 07:44 PM.
09-21-2010, 07:32 PM
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Thanks for the detailed info DrakBrew (and others for the support)... i assume all of those rants are from people who dont understand the required maintenance of that car.
What should i be checking if i buy a used RX-8? (ex. signs of mistreated parts) because the 2004 models are far cheaper (obviously).
What should i be checking if i buy a used RX-8? (ex. signs of mistreated parts) because the 2004 models are far cheaper (obviously).
09-21-2010, 07:38 PM
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#1 get compression checked with a rotary specific tester
#2 Get maintenance records including recalls and TSBs
#3 Carfax or similar
Read all the great information in the stickies
Read the f@cking manual
Meet up with local owners
We've had people asking why the oil light is on after only xxxx miles...
totally unaware that they needed to take care of this
One seized motor
Such is the world of rotards
#2 Get maintenance records including recalls and TSBs
#3 Carfax or similar
Read all the great information in the stickies
Read the f@cking manual
Meet up with local owners
We've had people asking why the oil light is on after only xxxx miles...
totally unaware that they needed to take care of this
One seized motor
Such is the world of rotards
Last edited by DarkBrew; 09-21-2010 at 07:42 PM.
09-21-2010, 07:53 PM
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He's as bad as Can
There are more 2004 & 2005 RX-8 on the road than 06-10 combined. Odds are there will be more owners of those models that have an issue. I really think there are not that many late model RX-8 on the road let alone that are also members here.
My 2004 has 147,000 on it. It did have the engine replaced at 110,000.
My 2004 has 147,000 on it. It did have the engine replaced at 110,000.
09-21-2010, 07:55 PM
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Assuming you ain't just trolling, please go read these.
https://www.rx8club.com/new-member-forum-197/congratulations-you-got-8-a-202548/
https://www.rx8club.com/new-member-forum-197/new-potential-owners-start-here-202454/
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...&highlight=FAQ
Nuff said?
FYI guys...............instead of just saying "search" which wasn't really applicable in this case, I'm merely going to link those three threads in.
I cut and pasted them into a .txt file and am keeping it in one of RX8 directories!
https://www.rx8club.com/new-member-forum-197/congratulations-you-got-8-a-202548/
https://www.rx8club.com/new-member-forum-197/new-potential-owners-start-here-202454/
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...&highlight=FAQ
Nuff said?
FYI guys...............instead of just saying "search" which wasn't really applicable in this case, I'm merely going to link those three threads in.
I cut and pasted them into a .txt file and am keeping it in one of RX8 directories!
Last edited by Mazurfer; 09-21-2010 at 07:59 PM.
09-21-2010, 07:57 PM
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How much did the replacement cost? What happened to the original engine?
@DarkBrew
I have read quite a bit about the RX-8s having to have oil changed very frequently (some say every day, some say every 5000miles), i also understand that the car should be given time to warm up and cool down, and that rotary engines like to be revved.
Can you tell me what you do on a regular day out?
@ mazurfer
THANK YOU! it is exactly what i needed.
@DarkBrew
I have read quite a bit about the RX-8s having to have oil changed very frequently (some say every day, some say every 5000miles), i also understand that the car should be given time to warm up and cool down, and that rotary engines like to be revved.
Can you tell me what you do on a regular day out?
@ mazurfer
THANK YOU! it is exactly what i needed.
09-21-2010, 08:01 PM
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How much did the replacement cost? What happened to the original engine?
@DarkBrew
I have read quite a bit about the RX-8s having to have oil changed very frequently (some say every day, some say every 5000miles), i also understand that the car should be given time to warm up and cool down, and that rotary engines like to be revved.
Can you tell me what you do on a regular day out?
@ mazurfer
THANK YOU! it is exactly what i needed.
@DarkBrew
I have read quite a bit about the RX-8s having to have oil changed very frequently (some say every day, some say every 5000miles), i also understand that the car should be given time to warm up and cool down, and that rotary engines like to be revved.
Can you tell me what you do on a regular day out?
@ mazurfer
THANK YOU! it is exactly what i needed.
I'll let DB answer if he likes, but I think the answer will also be in those threads.
And I'm pretty sure I got a 99.9% idea what he does.
09-21-2010, 08:11 PM
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He's as bad as Can
I have owned this car since 2/2004 and honestly It really isn't that much more work to own an RX-8
09-21-2010, 08:43 PM
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I do my oil changes around 3,500 but so long as your within the specs listed in the owners manual you should be ok. 5,000 miles is an ok interval. I leave about 10 seconds after starting it up, but I take it easy till it's warm. As for any ' Cool Down ' I don't know what's your talking about. One shouldn't however shut off a COLD rotary engine. Such as moving cars around your driveway to wash them.
I have owned this car since 2/2004 and honestly It really isn't that much more work to own an RX-8
I have owned this car since 2/2004 and honestly It really isn't that much more work to own an RX-8
The earliest time i will be buying a car (RX8) will be in 7 months, so i have a head start to research.
What happened to your first engine (why did you replace it?).
Also - how does this car impact the insurance? is it considered a 2 door or 4 door?
09-21-2010, 11:49 PM
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Its considered a 2 door sports car because it is a 2 door sports car. Insurance companies can charge you differently for even color. If its a red car insurance is usually higher. I am currently paying 1800 a year on mine. And thats with very good insurance.
EDIT: Actually 4 door hah suicide doors. duh
EDIT: Actually 4 door hah suicide doors. duh
Last edited by BuBuBDunk; 09-22-2010 at 06:51 PM.
09-22-2010, 01:04 AM
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Geez, you must be younger. I pay under $40 a month with great full coverage. My wife is a licensed insurance agent and took care of me as far as what exact coverage I needed so I wouldnt be screwed after the fact of an accident with no special discounts. You must got a driving history
or may need to switch to Farmers or something
oh by the way I am not an old geezer if you were wondering LOL.
09-22-2010, 01:09 AM
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Oh and I am pretty positive it goes off of four doors and the small motor helps too. I dont believe the 2 door quote is true. Dont quote me but I can always ask my wife for clarification.
I believe the database even considers them two cylinder.
I believe the database even considers them two cylinder.
09-22-2010, 12:39 PM
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Geez, you must be younger. I pay under $40 a month with great full coverage. My wife is a licensed insurance agent and took care of me as far as what exact coverage I needed so I wouldnt be screwed after the fact of an accident with no special discounts. You must got a driving history or may need to switch to Farmers or somethingoh by the way I am not an old geezer if you were wondering LOL.
or may need to switch to Farmers or somethingoh by the way I am not an old geezer if you were wondering LOL.*I only drove my 8 for 1500 miles so far this year to give you an idea how much I drive it as a secondary car**
I have 1 ticket from 2008 for 14 over btw....nothing else on my record. Sucks to be 21 sometimes..
09-22-2010, 03:04 PM
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@BlueRenesis
Can you confirm that, and if it also applies to Canadian Insurance as well (if your wife can find out or knows already).
Thanks
Can you confirm that, and if it also applies to Canadian Insurance as well (if your wife can find out or knows already).
Thanks
09-22-2010, 03:16 PM
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09-22-2010, 04:05 PM
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well, bluerenesis, there are a ZILLION and a half threads on the "problems" of rx-8s, so it's been covered and we don't need another thread about it.
oh, and also, there are a ZILLION and a half threads about rx-8's insurance cost.......................and guess what..............we don't need another one.
lately is seems the sub-10-post-members are making repetitive threads everywhere...it clogs the system and makes searching a bitch.
oh, and also, there are a ZILLION and a half threads about rx-8's insurance cost.......................and guess what..............we don't need another one.
lately is seems the sub-10-post-members are making repetitive threads everywhere...it clogs the system and makes searching a bitch.
09-22-2010, 05:28 PM
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I just stumbled across my first problem with my '04 this past weekend. It has 95,000 miles on it. The engine still has good compression, but I am still trying to diagnose what is going on with it. I have a feeling it is something extremely small and petty.