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RyansRx8 09-22-2009 03:10 PM

Piston rx8
 
Just a thought, what if the rx8 came with a lets say 4 cylinder turbocharged engine? Everything else the same still outstanding handling...I think it would be able to make alot more power and a little more torque..I would be on his forsure...any thoughts?

P.S I'm not a rotary hater by any means :)

Razz1 09-22-2009 03:14 PM

Just look at the Miata. 167hp.

The engine weight and location would kill the handling

Hoss 09-22-2009 03:15 PM

It would be able to make more power with the rotary if Mazda had designed it this way... I think that even with pistons they wouldnt have dumped unlimited amounts of power into the car.

They designed it with a purpose in mind, and that purpose did not require 400 Hp and 400 ft lbs of torque. Sure a large demographic would have wanted this, but they were not catering to that demographic.

Also, that would have turned it into an MX car. Now, what if the RX8 came with a turbo rotary from teh factory, that would start to tap into the engines potential a bit more :)

rev8 09-22-2009 03:16 PM

some guys on this forum already have pistons in there 8. sr20det, 2jz, ls1, lsx.

RyansRx8 09-22-2009 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by rev8 (Post 3238407)
some guys on this forum already have pistons in there 8. sr20det, 2jz, ls1, lsx.

w/o a swap i mean from the factory...I think the 4 cylinder turbo would be great on 8...Just thinking out loud guys lol

syntheticdarkness 09-22-2009 03:19 PM

I would prefer the rotary over piston. If it came in piston then I would probably get a subie or at least another subie for the collection.

Razz1 09-22-2009 03:20 PM

I bought the car because it did not have pistions.

rev8 09-22-2009 03:26 PM

thats the same reason i bought one. at the last socal beach cruise we all were in a car show. and when over 30 rx8 show up and enter all eyes were on us. the guys that had their hoods open had people around looking under the hood trying to make out if it was a i4 or v6. and that was priceless.

SPHINX144 09-22-2009 03:26 PM

I believe using pistons as opposed to rotors would make the car lose its essence, the allure of what this make this car so special. i don't care about no having 300bhp--I hardly ever need them--but enjoy mindlessly driving at 8000rpms and not feeling like the engine is falling to pieces.

StormyWankel 09-22-2009 03:39 PM

If it wasn't rotary, then the RX wouldn't make sense and it would just be a Mazda 8...

Transam kid 01 09-22-2009 03:42 PM

Just a thought, what if people searched...

this topic has been discussed almost as much as "why does my MPG suck!"

RufusVonStorm 09-22-2009 03:53 PM

If this car had pistons it would be an s2000

Hoss 09-22-2009 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by RufusVonStorm (Post 3238486)
If this car had pistons it would be an s2000

So the guys that have done the motor swaps suddenly lost their back seats and gained a ragtop?

RufusVonStorm 09-22-2009 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by Hoss (Post 3238542)
So the guys that have done the motor swaps suddenly lost their back seats and gained a ragtop?

Yes

nikkdizzle 09-22-2009 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by RufusVonStorm (Post 3238486)
If this car had pistons it would be an s2000


essesntially i believe thats what would happen to the rx8....

Hoss 09-22-2009 06:24 PM

Fascinating... I am intrigued now... What would happen if you rotarized a S2000?

newguy 09-22-2009 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by Razz1 (Post 3238403)
Just look at the Miata. 167hp.

The engine weight and location would kill the handling

Id test drive one w/ a MS3 2.3 turbo massaged to 300hp/300ft/lb from the factory but ultimately the rotary is the RXs heritage.

db_8 09-22-2009 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by RyansRx8 (Post 3238395)
Just a thought, what if the rx8 came with a lets say 4 cylinder turbocharged engine? Everything else the same still outstanding handling...I think it would be able to make alot more power and a little more torque..I would be on his forsure...any thoughts?

P.S I'm not a rotary hater by any means :)

i'm pretty sure it would lose that outstanding handling unless the rest of the frame and weight distribution is reconfigured. and it sure wouldn't be an rx anymore. would be a miata with backseats :lol:

Marklar 09-22-2009 07:29 PM

The main advantage of the rotary engine is its small size. This allows it to be behind the front axle and mounted really low, giving great balance and a very low center of gravity. That's why the 8 handles so well for a car of its size.

A piston engine would totally change the character of the car. It might be easier to get more power, but the amazing handling that the auto press is still raving about after all these years would be gone.

We don't need a piston RX car. We need a 16X RX car.

Krazed_Rx8 09-22-2009 07:36 PM

Pistons and Rx8 just arent meant to go together.. No... Never.

plain ole wanker 09-22-2009 08:34 PM

That would mean I would have to listen to the radio again :eek: that's so antiquated.

srinivasadi 09-22-2009 08:38 PM

I guess mazda already has the alternative for that in the mx5 form. And I would not want to see a piston iengine in a rx car, the meaning of rx will be lost in my opinion. Maybe what they need is a mx6 revival with more power than miata.

RufusVonStorm 09-22-2009 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by Hoss (Post 3238781)
Fascinating... I am intrigued now... What would happen if you rotarized a S2000?

Well by the reversical principle, we see that = rx-8

Chronisseur 09-22-2009 09:33 PM

As others have voiced, I think the appeal of the car would be diluted with a more conventional engine. I know that if Mazda offered the car with two powertrains, say a 250hp 230 ft/lb piston engine as well as the current rotary, I'd take it as it is. I'm excited to see the future development of the rotary engine, and I'll probably buy atleast one more Wankel-powered car in my lifetime.

Spoolin8 09-22-2009 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by Hoss (Post 3238781)
Fascinating... I am intrigued now... What would happen if you rotarized a S2000?

The ragtop solidifies and it gives birth to two back seats and stretches the door into two separate doors and the back ones become suicidal....


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