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Old 05-30-2018, 07:27 PM
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OEM rebuilt backorder?

Is anyone else stuck in limbo as to when new rebuilt motors will be available? It sounds like they are at least a few weeks away at this point? I’ve heard June 21st, but I’m wondering if others are hearing the same thing.
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I just heard the same on one of the Facebook groups I follow, but I cant confirm as I'm not currently in the market.
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I was told by the dealer I bought my reman from this spring that I got the last one in the Chicago warehouse.

I figured he was just making smalltalk but it sounds like he might have been right.
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I spend a large part of yesterday calling around dealers in SoCal and NV for pricing on remans to try and find the best deal. Every dealer said they were on backorder and the general consensus was approximately 3-4 weeks.
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It's probably a good thing, they are probably running low on reusable hard parts so that means more new parts and that is what we heard from Paul @ Mazmart.
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It's probably a good thing, they are probably running low on reusable hard parts so that means more new parts and that is what we heard from Paul @ Mazmart.
Oh, I certainly hope that is the case.
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Same here in Montreal Canada, bcakordered.
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Just sorted out my engine from the local dealer this afternoon. They gave me a new date of June 28th, 2018 for the engine to be available. He warned it could slide into July, just depends on how quickly they can get them over from J-A-Pan.

As much as I'd love to open it up and check tolerances, I'm just going to run it and follow up with comp. tests. I want the car on the road sooner rather than later.

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Originally Posted by furansu
Just sorted out my engine from the local dealer this afternoon. They gave me a new date of June 28th, 2018 for the engine to be available. He warned it could slide into July, just depends on how quickly they can get them over from J-A-Pan.

As much as I'd love to open it up and check tolerances, I'm just going to run it and follow up with comp. tests. I want the car on the road sooner rather than later.
I dont think the Remans come from Japan, if I remember correctly there is a plant in the southern US, North Carolina maybe? Did they tell you Japan in your conversation?
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Originally Posted by Chrishoky
I dont think the Remans come from Japan, if I remember correctly there is a plant in the southern US, North Carolina maybe? Did they tell you Japan in your conversation?
Probably waiting for rebuild PARTS from Japan ?
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Originally Posted by Dave04
Probably waiting for rebuild PARTS from Japan ?
Ah, that could certainly be the case.
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Originally Posted by Dave04
Probably waiting for rebuild PARTS from Japan ?
Could be what they intended with their statement.
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I ordered the manual 6-port engine, though I intend to run a lightened flywheel -- might have made more sense to order the automatic 6-port as it'd already have the correct counterweights installed. :/

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My 2010 R3 was just approved for a new engine on June 5th but dealer called and said it will be two weeks.
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The remand are still made in Mazda plant in Virginia USA
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Originally Posted by wannawankel
The remand are still made in Mazda plant in Virginia USA
Added information I found from an article that affirms as such.

Originally Posted by Richmond Times
  • John Reid Blackwell
  • Jul 29, 2011
Mazda North America on Thursday officially opened an expansion of its remanufacturing and technical center. The expansion comes three years after the company opened a rotary engine remanufacturing plant in a 133,000-square-foot building on Ruffin Mill Road.

Mazda first opened the plant in May 2008 to rebuild rotary-powered engines for its RX-8 sports car. Last year, the plant produced more than 5,000 remanufactured engines.

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My engine arrived at the dealer yesterday. The box indicated that it was assembled/left the factory on June 7th, 2018.

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I'm happy to report that it included a new thermostat and the external gasket set in addition to the expected flywheel and water pump.

It looks like it could be all new parts, though the rotor housings seem to be an off-color from the front cover, which seems like new aluminum. Not sure if they are just a different alloy (thus the color difference) or if the housings are used/refurbished. I tend to take high-res images, so it should zoom upon click, if you are interested in greater detail.
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Good to hear! That's a very familiar sight for me.

My reman also included a new water pump, t-stat, flywheel, and gasket set.

I would expect it's more likely to have a refurbed front cover and new housings than the other way around. Given the very different functions of the parts, your idea that they are different Al alloys isn't out of the question.

Some thoughts from my recent reman install:

The threads on one of the oil injector ports on mine was a little chowdered up and I decided to very carefully run a tap down the hole to clean it up. I recommend you check yours out very carefully by hand threading an injector into each. Just start them with your fingers and then take a socket (without a socket wrench!) and thread it all the way down. It may be a tight fit (new threads sometimes are) but should twist in smoothly.

Also, take a MityVac handpump to your oil injectors. All of them should hold close to 10 psi with less than 0.39 psi loss per minute.
METERING OIL PUMP INSPECTION

Do a similar test with your vacuum solenoids and vacuum actuators.

This is also a good time to upgrade the oil pressure regulator. I installed the Mazmart regulator and used the Pineapple Racing oil pan gasket so I didn't have to mess around with RTV.

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Is that a series 1 motor.
I am putting all new oil injectors in mine.
And new clutch, hope mine has flywheel as well.
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Yep, series 1 (no third/central oil injector). I was considering a lightweight flywheel (loved the RacingBeat one I had on my FD), but the added cost and PITA-factor to removing the current flywheel has put me off for now. I'm going to focus on reliability mods (SOHN, alu radiator, possibly a metal AST/coolant bottle, etc).
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Anyone fit an FD pressure regulator on a Renesis? They ran 110psi stock. I like the idea of using a regulator as intended with no shimming, if it is compatible.
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Originally Posted by NotAPreppie
Good to hear! That's a very familiar sight for me.

My reman also included a new water pump, t-stat, flywheel, and gasket set.

I would expect it's more likely to have a refurbed front cover and new housings than the other way around. Given the very different functions of the parts, your idea that they are different Al alloys isn't out of the question.

Some thoughts from my recent reman install:

The threads on one of the oil injector ports on mine was a little chowdered up and I decided to very carefully run a tap down the hole to clean it up. I recommend you check yours out very carefully by hand threading an injector into each. Just start them with your fingers and then take a socket (without a socket wrench!) and thread it all the way down. It may be a tight fit (new threads sometimes are) but should twist in smoothly.

Also, take a MityVac handpump to your oil injectors. All of them should hold close to 10 psi with less than 0.39 psi loss per minute.
METERING OIL PUMP INSPECTION

Do a similar test with your vacuum solenoids and vacuum actuators.

This is also a good time to upgrade the oil pressure regulator. I installed the Mazmart regulator and used the Pineapple Racing oil pan gasket so I didn't have to mess around with RTV.
+1 on the pineapple racing oil pan gasket. More people should try these, they work wonders and make it very quick to install the oil pan. I haven't seen results under a racing environment but for hard driving, I've seen no adverse effects.
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Any news??? My series 2 motor was "ordered" June 10th........
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Not sure where they are with S2 engines, mine arrived 'early' from the original date they gave for availability. (Reference Post #17 here)
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Finally got my reman installed for series 2. is it normal theres no serial number??? how do I know the dealer changed the engine for real... all the clips look like they havent moved...


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