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Old 02-02-2005, 08:26 AM
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How old are you and what is your job and income? What are your debts?

If you're under 25, I'm not sure you should get an RX8. You did mention being severely upside down on your Matrix. Why did that happen?

The Toyota you can basically drive without worrying about it, like a Honda Civic more or less. After you finish payments, you simply continue to drive for years and years and over 300,000 miles if you wish. You're going to be making payments all over again on the RX8 and at the same time put money in to maintain the car. If you don't maintain the RX8 diligently, you're going to get hit with bigger service costs. Who knows how much over 100,000 miles the RX8 can get, especially with sports enthusiast drivers. And all the while you're making monthly payments.

Do you have other things in life you need to plan for? You don't want a new car to knock you off path. And a new exciting car isn't a real cure for other ailments in your current life. I know you said you got a great deal on the RX8 but it still would be more expensive than say a Scion TC, which is a different kind of new and fairly cool car with great mod capability.

If the above doesn't pertain to you, then what the hell are you waiting for? Go and get the RX8 asap!
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Originally Posted by Reactionary
How old are you and what is your job and income? What are your debts?

If you're under 25, I'm not sure you should get an RX8. You did mention being severely upside down on your Matrix. Why did that happen?

The Toyota you can basically drive without worrying about it, like a Honda Civic more or less. After you finish payments, you simply continue to drive for years and years and over 300,000 miles if you wish. You're going to be making payments all over again on the RX8 and at the same time put money in to maintain the car. If you don't maintain the RX8 diligently, you're going to get hit with bigger service costs. Who knows how much over 100,000 miles the RX8 can get, especially with sports enthusiast drivers. And all the while you're making monthly payments.

Do you have other things in life you need to plan for? You don't want a new car to knock you off path. And a new exciting car isn't a real cure for other ailments in your current life. I know you said you got a great deal on the RX8 but it still would be more expensive than say a Scion TC, which is a different kind of new and fairly cool car with great mod capability.

If the above doesn't pertain to you, then what the hell are you waiting for? Go and get the RX8 asap!
im 30 and financially secure....i dont want to settle for a lessor car and paying 500+ a month isnt going to hurt me....i am a bit of a car nut and baby all my vehicles using only the best.....for example when i went on the test drive they had the car filled up with 87 and i almost had a stroke and had to comment on the sales man....high compression=need for higher octane....i got upside down on the matrix cuz i made the stupid mistake of owning a daewoo (please dont rip me apart too much) and the car blew up after a year (they wouldnt warantee it cuz of bankrupcy).....so far all these negatives seem like quirks and nothing that i couldnt deal with....you guys are getting me closer!
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Watch those Daewoo's: my Mazda dealer gave me one as a loaner when they were working on my 8. I was embarassed to drive it to work & it reeked of cigarettes!
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Originally Posted by Reactionary
If you're under 25, I'm not sure you should get an RX8. You did mention being severely upside down on your Matrix. Why did that happen?
What does 25 have to do with anything?
Old 02-02-2005, 09:17 AM
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Ok, here are some more points about RX-8 ownership.

If your in a hurry try to park away from people as when they complement your car you will have to go through the whole spiel about what kind of car it is and the whole rotary engine thing.

Plan on spending more money on cleaning product to keep your 8 shining.

Plan on dropping a grand or two on the few simple MODs out there.

If this is your daily driver plan on $1,000 for winter rims / tires.

Headroom is low with the sunroof.

The sound over 5,000 RPM will make you drive harder and use more fuel

Small fuel tank will improve your relationship with that guy that pumps your gas.

Plan on increasing your music collection, as you will be driving more.

Plan on knowing more about your car than the people at the dealership that service it. This will make the frustration they will cause you easier to deal with.

Enjoy being part of an exclusive club, I drive 400 miles a week and only see another 8 less than once a week.
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Get used to walking...you're gonna start parking far away from stores because you don't like the looks of that 85 Buick LeSabre sitting there...
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Get used to walking...you're gonna start parking far away from stores because you don't like the looks of that 85 Buick LeSabre sitting there...
i do that now?!?.....looks like im getting one.....i caled my insurance and its only 200 more a year....which is not bad at all!...i still dont see any down sides...
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I somewhat agree with the guy above.

If you are upside down on your matrix already, adding that to what you are going to lose on the '8 as soon as you drive it off the lot. Bad money move. Get your finances straight first.

Paying $40k+ for an rx-8 is probably not such a good idea.
Old 02-02-2005, 09:57 AM
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Small fuel tank will improve your relationship with that guy that pumps your gas.
Someone is pumping your gas? Where do you live? Are you rich or live in a snooty area? lol, sorry but I have not seen someone pumping someone elses gas in FOREVER???
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Originally Posted by rx8wannahave
Someone is pumping your gas? Where do you live? Are you rich or live in a snooty area? lol, sorry but I have not seen someone pumping someone elses gas in FOREVER???
In New Jersey and Oregon it is against the law to have Self Serve Gas.
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Drive it like you stole it.
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....and the evo, mustang, and 350 are all out of my price range because of my being upside down with the trade in...dont get me wrong im not settling cuz i think the rx is by far the sexiest out of them.....but it just comes at a perfect time with rebates too
The V8 Mustang GT is the same price, or slightly cheaper than the base RX-8. I don't see what being upside down in your current car has anything to do with what car you trade it in for. You are going to take a hit either way.

The Mustang has higher insurance rates typically, but with 100 more HP, it should. Yes, the RX-8 is SUPPOSED to have 238 HP, but we all know it is closer to 200, if that. Good luck on your decision, and remember, even with 100 more HP and despite being heavier, the Mustang will get as good or better gas mileage.


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The V8 Mustang GT is the same price, or slightly cheaper than the base RX-8. I don't see what being upside down in your current car has anything to do with what car you trade it in for. You are going to take a hit either way.

The Mustang has higher insurance rates typically, but with 100 more HP, it should. Yes, the RX-8 is SUPPOSED to have 238 HP, but we all know it is closer to 200, if that. Good luck on your decision, and remember, even with 100 more HP and despite being heavier, the Mustang will get as good or better gas mileage.

when did you become a spokesperson for ford? you sound more and more like ike every day. traitor. :p
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being upside down has allot to do with it because i can get into a car that has huge rebates that will eat up all my negative equity and put me in a car thats worth what im paying...as of right now there is 4k in rebates from the dealer and i will be getting the rx at 1k below dealer holdback which is below invoice...so i will be paying the same or less for a new rx8 than than i am paying for my matrix which is worth significantly less
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^and that is not the best angle for the mustang...the back is rather ugly IMO
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Originally Posted by Speed-ER doc
The Mustang has higher insurance rates typically, but with 100 more HP, it should. Yes, the RX-8 is SUPPOSED to have 238 HP, but we all know it is closer to 200, if that. Good luck on your decision, and remember, even with 100 more HP and despite being heavier, the Mustang will get as good or better gas mileage.
True on specs, but it's dang ugly compared to the 8...well IMO. The 8 is far more uniquely styled and crafted. Sure it won't be as fast in the straight line, but the curves are where it counts for the fun factor and the 8 delivers.
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yellow looks like *** on those things. That is the only colour I have seen in person....TUAH!
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Actually Doc, that Stang does not look too bad in yellow, and God knows how much I hate yellow cars.
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when did you become a spokesperson for ford? you sound more and more like ike every day. traitor. :p
Newsflash.....Ike is right.

Just trying to keep y'all honest. I happen to recently be in a position to know a bit about Fords. I used to sneer at them the way y'all did. There are a lot of good cars out there if you will open your eyes to them. And (cover your ears) some of them are even better than the RX-8!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Speed-ER doc
Newsflash.....Ike is right.

Just trying to keep y'all honest. I happen to recently be in a position to know a bit about Fords. I used to sneer at them the way y'all did. There are a lot of good cars out there if you will open your eyes to them. And (cover your ears) some of them are even better than the RX-8!!!!!
why do you need to keep them all honest? do you get paid for that? you come across as being condescending when you say that. i'm quite aware that there are better cars than the 8. i don't recall that i ever said there weren't. i'm sure most people on this forum are aware of it too. and that's what i don't get; you're need to patrol the boards and keep people honest. i'm surprised at you doc. as for mustangs i have always liked them never enough to buy one although i did price a cobra way back when before i got married. i like the z, boxster and the new chrysler also. so yea i like other cars. bleh :D
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why do you need to keep them all honest? do you get paid for that? you come across as being condescending when you say that. i'm quite aware that there are better cars than the 8. i don't recall that i ever said there weren't. i'm sure most people on this forum are aware of it too. and that's what i don't get; you're need to patrol the boards and keep people honest. i'm surprised at you doc. as for mustangs i have always liked them never enough to buy one although i did price a cobra way back when before i got married. i like the z, boxster and the new chrysler also. so yea i like other cars. bleh :D
Why do I need to be here at all? I wish I got paid for it. I just like putting my opinion out there, I don't really care what kind of car Joe Member buys. Just trying to clear the air and help some folks see through the sometimes smokescreen of the RX8 fanboi club. (Now that sounds like Ike )

And sorry if I came off condescending, the whole post wasn't really directed at you specifically, although I did quote you.
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Why do I need to be here at all? I wish I got paid for it. I just like putting my opinion out there, I don't really care what kind of car Joe Member buys. Just trying to clear the air and help some folks see through the sometimes smokescreen of the RX8 fanboi club. (Now that sounds like Ike )

And sorry if I came off condescending, the whole post wasn't really directed at you specifically, although I did quote you.
no problem. i'm going back to the lounge. have fun! :D
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the mustang is a great value, but if you like the 8, you'll forget about 300HP and all that stuff, to me the 8 just is kind of different, which is why I like it. I sat in the Stang and again, its nice, but just has some things that didn't flow with me- like the same ac ***** that they put in a probe 10 years ago.

The 8 is fast enough if you know how to drive it to get by and shun off most people if you really need to. HP ratings or not, it'll feels fast and, not to be slogan heavy, but not only does it ZOOM zoom, it "just feels right".

I have 10K on mine, and use it as a daily driver. Plan on getting winter tires if you see even the slightest snow.. Other than that, you'll love it enough to take the right care on it.
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Originally Posted by Speed-ER doc
Yes, the RX-8 is SUPPOSED to have 238 HP, but we all know it is closer to 200, if that.
We do?


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