Old Rotor

Check this one out! What do you think! Its the one at the top....
http://www.finishlineperformance.com...ins_index.html

Rotary Rasp

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That would be for the current mass recall.

tiggerlee

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-trouble-shooting-95/recall-thread-mnao-suspend-rx-8-deliveries-66002/ :D

tiggerlee

Actually that was a good bit of info. For me at least. :D

shaolin

Hmmm, I have a build date of April 2004. That means they're going to confiscate the car until they figure out what to do with it? Funk that....I'm sorry but I'm not going anywhere near a dealer until they have more info for "group 1."

Hung_horse31

I have the same built date as yours..I think im going to wait until my next oil change (in about 2 months) and then mention it to them. My car is running fine now..

Chrisbert

Same here. Bought the car in August 03 so I'm Group 1. I'll wait until they have repair procedures in place.

I wonder what the PCM reprogramming is going to do this time. Dump more fuel out the exhaust to cool it?

valpac

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No dealer is going to "hold" cars. Too much liability having cars hanging around.

If you took your car in they would check you VIN to see which group you fall under. If your car didn't apply, they would send you on your merry way until new instructions were issued from Mazda.

valpac

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You got it. Can you say, poorer gas mileage and less performance.

rx8wannahave

I guess this is the S flash...-SLOWER flash...lol

I have a Oct 2004 built 2005 base 6spd RX8...I think I fall into the recall right?

Sigma

Yes they will. They're doing it right now. Mazda purportedly already had almost 10,000 loaner cars given to RX-8 owners. The liability to Mazda Corp for allowing you to drive a car with a problem apparently so serious as to require that they stop selling them immediately is far greater than the simple liability of some cars on the lot. The instructions to dealers explicitly state to hold all cars that are Group 1. Some owners have said the dealer flat-out wouldn't give them their car back after taking it in for a simple oil change others have said they had to raise a stink to get it back but were able to do so.

chrism

i know i had to raise a stink on saturday because i am group one and they wanted to keep my car.....i had a car show to go to and just went in for an oil change before hand.....as of saturday the dealer told me 8000 cars but i guess that number has risen

jaguargod

I understand that they can choose not to release any of their new RX 8's to the public because of this recall, but I really don't think they have any legal grounds to hold your personal car from you. They can try to persuade you to leave it with them, but I am pretty sure that if you reject that, they must give it back to you. I'm no attorney, but that is what I think.

RotaryIT

I think my 8 is doomed. I smell oil burning yesterday, and today. Now it confirmed that if I have the problem this recall is referring to, then who knows when I'll get my car back.

Unfortunately, every time I have taken my car to the dealer...they put me into a POS. I have had a Neon, Taurus, and a Nissan Sentra. The Sentra was disgusting. Stained seats, cigarette ash all over, etc. The best they gave me after I complained about the Sentra was a Colorado pickup, with no gas in it. Do all Mazda dealerships use Enterprise for loaner cars?

chrism

mine does

rodrigo67

ok, I think I've had enough of this crap. Also those interested might want to check out this thread.

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-trouble-shooting-95/rx8-engine-replacement-bad-news-66842/

13 out of 28 engines blown and the new replacement engines had the same problems. Not a good situation.

I loved this car and have come to accept that it did not have as much power as I first was led to believe and gets worse gas milage then I expected, but have come to accept and live witrh these issue's because it's such a great all around car, but now I hear this. Mazda taking our cars and not giving them back until a fix, whcih they don't have at the moment, can repair this issue. Engines blown and also no known fix. Of course they will give you a neon to drive while your 30+ dollar car sits in a lot, waiting for a fix that doesn't exist yet.

This is my first and most likely, my last rotary car. I leased this car because I was not sure of mechanical issue that might pop up. So far, I have had 0 issues with this car and was planning on buying it when the lease ran out. Now, I having second thoughts and am heavily leaning towards giving mazda thier car back at lease end. This is a weekend 3 season car and has very low miles on it ( it's 11 months old and has 6600 miles on it), so Mazda will be paying milage back to me, and even though I understand issues happen on first year cars, the nature of this recall gives me great doubts on the future reliability.

What would the results of this be if we were over the warrenty? 48K is not alot of miles to acumulate in a short time period, some of us have already hit it.

And now a new flash to cool the cat and exhaust, which will be to dump more fuel into it, so we be getting the performance of a honda civic and the milage of a viper. Time to rethink my relationship with Mazda...

RX-GR8

my dealer has a fleet of cars they use as loaners.

RotaryIT

What state are you in? I am considering driving to another dealer further away if I have to so i don't end up with a Neon again. I refuse to drive a little econobox, while I still pay for my 8. I have done it 3 times already for warranty repairs, and I not doing it anymore. Either they come up with a Mazda 6 or better, or I'm calling mom. :D

RX-GR8

NJ

rx8wannahave

So sad to hear stuff like rodrigo67 just said...

Just my thoughts, If you have had no issue at all why are you going to freak out about this? Think of it...they will basically hold your car and install a new or updated heat shield. It's not like they are talking about complete engine replacement or tranny replacement.

I completely understand that for those people who have had their engines replaced or tranny how they would feel like they did not want anything to do with the rotary engine but frankly I think you might be freaking out too much about this.

Sure...it stinks and I for one agree that I don't want no stinking SUV or Neon (sorry sis, she owns one) for a week, two, or a month let's say...but if my 8 has been perfect (as it has...as yours has also) why give up on the car?

As others have said recalls happen all the time and it just seems some people focus on any reflash of the ECU or recall, etc with the RX8 because it has a rotary engine. It's like they are looking for something to say...

"You see...I knew it, the rotary is a garbage...time to trade it in"

If my 8 becomes problematic...sure, I'll complain and (GOD FORBID) maybe I'd have to give it up but as for now it's been nothing but good to me and this recall has not changed that. Stick a new heat shield in there...and give me the keys back, I'll be Zooming in no time...

I hope you stick it out...it's no big deal and I hope the new flash (if it's not R) does not reduce power. I hope the best for ya...but try and stick it out…

RotaryIT

Don't get me wrong, I do want to keep my 8...and I have enjoyed almost everyday of owning it. I think the main problem is not how MNAO is handling this, but how the service department at my dealer has handle issues in the past, and god knows how they will handle this.

The truth of the matter, is that as it stands right now, if your car falls into Group 1, they have to pull the gas tank and check for damage. If there is damage found, then they are instructed to HOLD the car, and await instructions. Which means as I continue to pay my $444.55 and $156.00 a month for my 8 and insurance, I get to drive a Neon that's worth every penny. :D

That is the main problem I have, and I feel for those in hot states like LV that have had engine replacements and no solution. They should give you an option to trade to something else. I called my usual crappy dealer, they said bring it in on Wed., and I called another dealer about 45 minutes away and they said Thurs. Both of them unfortunately use Enterprise for loaner cars....bummer.

cas2themoe

I just check on the MazdaUSA.com site under the "Owners" section and it mentioned nothing about the recalls under the "Recalls" Tab. You would think they would try and let everyone know ASAP before it actually causes more damage. I don't drive my car that hard and only have 16,000 miles on my car. But I think I'm in Group 1. Guess we'll have to wait and see. I'll be damned if I'm going to call them and have them keep my car. I'll just wait until I hear something from them.

rx8wannahave

RotaryIT...yeah, I understand what you said and how other feel about this. I just hope the blame or annoyance is placed in the right place so our beloved RX8 does not take the hit unfairly. Bad dealers really mess up the image of the car companies and the cars sold there.

My dealer so far has been great…time will tell if I don’t start complaining about them too.

rodrigo67

wannahave...don't worry

I'm not freaking out. Actually, I look at this very calmly. Of course first year runs always have issues, but I do have concerns with long term reliability.

First, I lease so if the car turns into a total POS, I can give it back and walk away. The biggest problem I have and would really like to hear from those in the high milage club, is how this is going to be handled if the car is over warrenty. I'm not talking about the heat shield issue, that's not a big deal, I'm concerned about the engine replacement issues and what if your out of warrenty. Care to find out how much a rotary cost from mazda? I don't.

Now, this is not an essential car to me. I bought it as a weekend toy, which is why I have so few miles on it, so losing it for a month really cuts into my fun time as I don't drive it in the winter, and for paying on a 30k+ car so I can drive a kia really pisses me off. My rentals usually just sit in the driveway until I pick up my car, what's the point in having a fun car and have to drive a corolla.

I'm still in a wait and see mode, but these engine tranny issue's do give me pause on if this is a good long term car to own...

Slick8

At least Mazda is fixing the problem on ALL their cars when it only affects a very small percentage of RX-8s! That's customer service!

Nissan isn't doing a damn thing about the tire feathering problem that affect ALL their 350Zs. Nissan is just putting bandaids on a problem that will never go away. How would you like to replace your tires every 10,000 miles! http://www.nissantireproblems.com/