ok so alot of my friends have been giving me grief about the rx8.

saying it's worse than the rx7

i know that and except it.

but oen thing they won't get over is they say mazda is coming out with a new versioin for teh rx8 with a better engine.

all ive heard is the new rx8 will have minor body modifications

and teh new shinka like model.


anyone hear anything to this extreme as a major engine modification.
and if so is it convertable to older 8's?

 

There is nothing you can say that will get your friends to praise you for your choice of car. So why bother with them, do you enjoy your RX-8? If yes talk about something else and enjoy your car. AS for major power improvements from Mazda that is no likely to happen anytime soon. Any “ Rotor Head “ already has one and pricing any faster RX-8 near $40,000 re-creates one of the problems of the last RX-7. A convertible while more likely than a faster RX-8 drastically changes one of it’s key features, holding four people with ease.

 

it's not that bad.

consider that the rx-7 was priced much higher - close to twice as much as the rx-8 when you factor in inflation.

also consider the fit and finish and gas mileage compared to the rx-7.


finally, consider how much hp the rx-8 makes NA.

Give it 2 more years. Then most of the initial rx-8's will be out of warranty and the aftermarket turbo/sc kits go more mainstream.

 

The RX-8 is more reliable than the RX-7, has better fit and finish, better ride control, better build quality, and a more usable interior, a longer standard warranty, with a can-make-do backseat when needed.

Even though it's normally aspirated, it's not that much slower than a RX-7.

I say that the RX-8 has more goodness than the RX-7, as a sum of its individual attributes, at 2/3rds the price (in inflation adjusted dollars).

Tell your friends to stick that in their pipes and smoke it.

All this talk of the superiority of the RX-7 solely because of its turbocharged rotary is overblown.

My kingdom, my kingdom, my kingdom for a slightly better 0-60,
and a slightly better 1/4 mile...

 

I have two 3rd gen RX-7's and an RX-8. While the 8 is not the performance powerhouse that the FD - 7 once was , the 8 is hands-down a better all-around car. The engine has 70 more horsepower than the last NA rotary with the exact same gas mileage. It is a nice compromise between practicality and performance. The reason I keep an older 7 around is because it's my all-time favorite car and it still gives me a sexual experience everytime I drive it. That being said, the 8 is something I can have fun in EVERY DAY. I can flog the crap out of it and know that I will still be able to make it home. And even though it's down on power from a G35 or 350Z, I have yet to come up against some guy who had the ***** to put all that power to use.

Any naysayers about reliability should call me up and I'll give them a ride in my 85 THOUSAND MILE RX-8 that runs just as good today (if not better) as the day I drove her home. When this thing hits 100k miles I'm sending a pic to MazdaUSA (which should be sometime this year).

Tell your d-bag friends to eat a d#ck !!

 

Most couch car enthusiasts are magaine number jockeys.

The RX-8 in not making super peak HP numbers at dynos, the RX-8 is not making amazing 0-60 runs in testing. That is a fact.

But the Renesis engine allows for the amazing RX-8 package- a package that will keep up with a 350z or s2000 in braking and curves but with a back seat and a more compliant suspension set up. the car is burdened by the exotic looks, but also under appreciate because its peak HP numbers.

 

I guess more NA hp than any production rotary in history and actual reliability vice rebuilding the FD every 30-40k miles makes the Rx-8 worse...

 

It's not worse, it's just different. It will take time for it to become great. We just need to stay dedicated and support rotary developements.
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Wow... 85K miles, no special maintenance procedure necessary?

 

mysql101 what did u mean by this

"Give it 2 more years. Then most of the initial rx-8's will be out of warranty and the aftermarket turbo/sc kits go more mainstream."

mainstream? do u mean cheaper?

 

Quote from rotarynew.com

"LOS ANGELES – Mazda today unveiled the 2006 model-year edition of its highly regarded RX-8 sports car. Highlights of the new model feature an upgraded 212-horsepower rotary engine, a new six-speed Sport AT automatic transmission and a "SHINKA"Special Edition package limited to only 1,500 vehicles."

if i'm not mistaken dioesn't the MT 05 rx8 have 238 hp?

 

My 85 FB is pushing 190k miles. My 82 FB is already over 100k miles. I've done nothing special to them. When someone nay-says something about reliability and rotary, I point to my odometer. That shuts them up.

FS

 

"Sport AT" is automatic... (up from 197 in the previous auto models)

FS

 

It's like when people were saying 3 years ago "just wait til we get out turbo kits and blow the doors off of STIs and Evos", or "just wait til the Mazdaspeed RX-8 comes out blah blah blah". The Rx-8 will never have a big aftermarket, and it will never be a very popular tuner car, just too many obstacles in the way and too many cars that are much easier to get power out of.

 

Yes, because we all know that it is nearly impossible to turbocharge a rotary. (Shhhh! Don't tell RX-7 Owners or RX-8 Greddy Owners)

 

JDM magazine rumor (which have actually been pretty accurate)...

11/2006
"Minor change" (facelift) for the RX-8
Slight increase in power

What that will actually pan out to be... who knows.

 

Remember, bud. Whats important is that YOU like your car.

I realize mine isnt the fastest out there.

But...

I can out-handle 90% of drivers in their cars, I can impress by looks/Nav/etc.

If it makes you happy, thats what's important. Screw your friends opinions. Shrug them off.

 

I've owned one SA/FB, drove an FD (R) a couple of times, and now the 8. The 8 is closer in 'feel' to the SA/FB, and makes the FD (R) feel like an unrefined road-monster (which it was.. terrifically fast, that car was, but it'd pound the filling outta yer teeth.)

For day-to-day, gimmie the 8 in a heartbeat.

Sounds like your buddies are fixated by numbers. In reality, numbers mean squat, how the car feels to you means everything. If it feels good, I'm satisfied even with something as "slow" as a Miata or MG or Triumph. Conversely, a 250+hp tub of lard like an Eclipse or 3000GT leave me with an uncontrollable urge to yaaaawn. It ain't the numbers, it's the feel. Good luck explaining that to your numbers-fixated friends.

So.. do you worship numbers on some magazine, or does the car plant a really big grin on your face? Only you can decide.

PS: The 8 isn't a replacement for the 7, the 8 is a completely different idea. Still a sports car, but a different kind. Like comparing a 550 Spyder to a 911.

 

Top Gear loves RX8.
Top Gear race track: RX8 and 350Z lapped the same time, driven by the same driver - the stig.

Now, if you friends know about cars so much, they must know about TopGear. Ask them to explain the results from TopGear and why those guys love RX8.

 

next time you hear an RX-8 rumour from your freinds(unles the are a mazda bigwig or the child of said bigwig) ask yourself one question-

Q. Have you read this on RX-8club?

A Yes- Then enlighten your freinds with the correct information gleaned from perusing the threads here.

B. No- Tell your freinds to find more reliable sources of info. then shove them in the back seat of your 8 and run them thru the twisties at high rpm/low gears(staying with in the speed limits of course)

 

People crack me up who thrive on numbers and there friends talks shi* about the car...My first bet is when they pull up un there Civic and it is as old as dirt, and one of your OEM wheels cost more than their car. best thign is when all these numbers come out they are done by what I would say pretty much a pro driver! So hwo many peopel on the road do you think have that much skill to drive that car like it was in the magazine??

Tell them to blow you....you are driving a piece of history...RX8 = highest reving production car!

 

I'll bet the Sport AT has a different flash only to lean it out to create more HP and help burn up the carbon that the AT seems to have from owners not revving it like us MT owners do.. The displacement of the engine remains the same.

 

if you are referring to the 2006 AT with its 212hp, then the difference in horse power comes from switching from the 4port renesis that was in the 04 and 05 my to the 6port that is used in the MT of all years. the reason it doesn't make as much power as the MT is because it still limited to a lower redline rpm.

if you are talking about something else, then i misunderstood you and disregard the above

 

The displacement does stay the same, 1.3L. The 6AT gets the 6 port engine from the 6MT but still restricted by the 7500rpm redline hence 212 instead of 238.

 

Btw, I don't understand people who buy the car because they loved it on the test drive and fell in love with the look and feel but then are unhappy b/c their idiot friends don't see the HP numbers in a magazine.

Are you happy with the car? Does it still put a smile on your face when you drive it? If so, who gives an f what your friends think!