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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 02:56 PM
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so yesterday, i was painting my calipers and after we (me and my brother in law) were finished, i started the car and moved it in to the garage so it could sit all night and dry. but this morning i tried to start the car up and it wouldnt start. i made sure last night that all my doors were closed and locked, and i also set my alarm so im sure everything was fine. so im not sure if its the batteri, but i just had some one come by and run a diognostic and nothings poping up, so were gonna try and call mazda. any idea on what the prob is?
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 03:01 PM
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Like Peter Gabriel once sang, "Lord, here comes the flood"
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 03:03 PM
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If it doesn't even turn over, it's either mostly likely the starter, battery or alternator.

Also, check your connections to make sure they're not corroded and are securely attached.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 03:05 PM
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we need more info than 'it wouldn't start'
did anything happen, did it crank forever...etc.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 03:12 PM
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we need more info than 'it wouldn't start'
did anything happen, did it crank forever...etc.
well the lights trun on so im sure its not the battery, everytime i try and turn the key all it dose is crank. and the mechanic checked a dignostic and all checked out!
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 03:13 PM
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Did you flood it? Check your coils, wires and plugs. Make sure the wires are secured on the plugs.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 03:28 PM
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Did you flood it? Check your coils, wires and plugs. Make sure the wires are secured on the plugs.
we just removed the fuel fuse so we could ignite all the extra gas in the engine, so that shouldnt be the prob, and were gonna take the battery to kragen and see if i need a new one!
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 03:32 PM
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So you turned off the car before the engine was warm? Sounds like you flooded the engine. If your battery checks out to be good, i would pull out your spark plugs and take a look at them. Good odds the plugs are fouled.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 03:42 PM
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So you turned off the car before the engine was warm? Sounds like you flooded the engine. If your battery checks out to be good, i would pull out your spark plugs and take a look at them. Good odds the plugs are fouled.
but the computer that my brother in law freind brought said everything was ok, but if the plugs are fouled how can i drain them?
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 03:57 PM
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look in the DIY section for how to change your plugs...or better yet look at the DIY deflood threads. If you did flood it you likely soaked the spark plugs with fuel. You'll need to take them out, and crank the engine and shoot the extra fuel out the spark plug holes.

Edit: Mine didn't post a CEL when I flooded it.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 04:03 PM
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ya started car moved into garage then shut off, that is exactly what people warn others about when it comes to flooding lol o well learning experience.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 04:04 PM
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yeah im reading alfys DIY im gonna give it a try right after my batteri is charged, all that cranking really drained my batteri
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Kaiser bun
ya started car moved into garage then shut off, that is exactly what people warn others about when it comes to flooding lol o well learning experience.
lol yeah i know i should warm the car up before i turn it off, but my wife and i were having an argument about something and she wanted to leave her perants house (ware my car is right now) so i just parked it in and left it there over night. oh well iguess
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 04:07 PM
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by cidvicious831
lol yeah i know i should warm the car up before i turn it off, but my wife and i were having an argument about something and she wanted to leave her perants house (ware my car is right now) so i just parked it in and left it there over night. oh well iguess
I'm really amazed that you have over 300 posts and haven't stumbled across "Don't shut your car off cold or it will flood" somewhere..
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 04:38 PM
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Good Photo Chop
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 05:02 PM
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this is real isnt it. no way photochop could do that
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 05:19 PM
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no way photochop could do that
I beg to differ.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 05:36 PM
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ok guys i removed the spark plugs and they smell like gas. gonna replace them. but if i replace them will they get filled with gas as well?
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 05:51 PM
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i think you should use the same plugs to deflood it then put new ones in ... sounds like you definitely flooded it
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 07:02 PM
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i put them back in and it still not working!!
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 07:08 PM
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It usually takes A LOT of cranking without them in to get ALL of the fuel out. I cranked with the ESS unplugged, plugs out, fuel fuse pulled and gas pedal to the floor (You really need to be reading the deflooding procedure) for at least 30 minutes. Not in one crank of course. 7 seconds at a time with 15 seconds rests in between. After ALL liquid stopped spitting out of the plug holes I put in new plugs and tried cranking again (after plugging everything back in) It still took me 3 or 4 tries before the motor sputtered back into life. I had to give it partial throttle to keep it alive for a few minutes, but then after all the white smoke was gone it idled on its own and eventually smoothed out. Keep reading the forum for deflooding threads.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 07:27 PM
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It usually takes A LOT of cranking without them in to get ALL of the fuel out. I cranked with the ESS unplugged, plugs out, fuel fuse pulled and gas pedal to the floor (You really need to be reading the deflooding procedure) for at least 30 minutes. Not in one crank of course. 7 seconds at a time with 15 seconds rests in between. After ALL liquid stopped spitting out of the plug holes I put in new plugs and tried cranking again (after plugging everything back in) It still took me 3 or 4 tries before the motor sputtered back into life. I had to give it partial throttle to keep it alive for a few minutes, but then after all the white smoke was gone it idled on its own and eventually smoothed out. Keep reading the forum for deflooding threads.
yeah the holse of my spark plugs are spitting gas, so im gonna re-clean them and unplug the fuse for the gas and also the airpump and keep doing so for 30 or so min.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 07:34 PM
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while you wait, take a look at a dictionary. spell fail and good luck with the car!!
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 09:09 PM
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sorry for my spelling since english is a second languge to me!
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