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cidvicious831 02-24-2010 02:56 PM

need help!!
 
so yesterday, i was painting my calipers and after we (me and my brother in law) were finished, i started the car and moved it in to the garage so it could sit all night and dry. but this morning i tried to start the car up and it wouldnt start. i made sure last night that all my doors were closed and locked, and i also set my alarm so im sure everything was fine. so im not sure if its the batteri, but i just had some one come by and run a diognostic and nothings poping up, so were gonna try and call mazda. any idea on what the prob is?

911SC 02-24-2010 03:01 PM

Like Peter Gabriel once sang, "Lord, here comes the flood"

Vlaze 02-24-2010 03:03 PM

If it doesn't even turn over, it's either mostly likely the starter, battery or alternator.

Also, check your connections to make sure they're not corroded and are securely attached.

Lord ET 02-24-2010 03:05 PM

we need more info than 'it wouldn't start'
did anything happen, did it crank forever...etc.

cidvicious831 02-24-2010 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by Lord ET (Post 3445474)
we need more info than 'it wouldn't start'
did anything happen, did it crank forever...etc.

well the lights trun on so im sure its not the battery, everytime i try and turn the key all it dose is crank. and the mechanic checked a dignostic and all checked out!

Vlaze 02-24-2010 03:13 PM

Did you flood it? Check your coils, wires and plugs. Make sure the wires are secured on the plugs.

cidvicious831 02-24-2010 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by Vlaze (Post 3445483)
Did you flood it? Check your coils, wires and plugs. Make sure the wires are secured on the plugs.

we just removed the fuel fuse so we could ignite all the extra gas in the engine, so that shouldnt be the prob, and were gonna take the battery to kragen and see if i need a new one!

invasion08 02-24-2010 03:32 PM

So you turned off the car before the engine was warm? Sounds like you flooded the engine. If your battery checks out to be good, i would pull out your spark plugs and take a look at them. Good odds the plugs are fouled.

cidvicious831 02-24-2010 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by invasion08 (Post 3445511)
So you turned off the car before the engine was warm? Sounds like you flooded the engine. If your battery checks out to be good, i would pull out your spark plugs and take a look at them. Good odds the plugs are fouled.

but the computer that my brother in law freind brought said everything was ok, but if the plugs are fouled how can i drain them?

Lord ET 02-24-2010 03:57 PM

look in the DIY section for how to change your plugs...or better yet look at the DIY deflood threads. If you did flood it you likely soaked the spark plugs with fuel. You'll need to take them out, and crank the engine and shoot the extra fuel out the spark plug holes.

Edit: Mine didn't post a CEL when I flooded it.

Kaiser bun 02-24-2010 04:03 PM

ya started car moved into garage then shut off, that is exactly what people warn others about when it comes to flooding lol o well learning experience.

cidvicious831 02-24-2010 04:04 PM

yeah im reading alfys DIY im gonna give it a try right after my batteri is charged, all that cranking really drained my batteri

cidvicious831 02-24-2010 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by Kaiser bun (Post 3445565)
ya started car moved into garage then shut off, that is exactly what people warn others about when it comes to flooding lol o well learning experience.

lol yeah i know i should warm the car up before i turn it off, but my wife and i were having an argument about something and she wanted to leave her perants house (ware my car is right now) so i just parked it in and left it there over night. oh well iguess

ZumnRx8 02-24-2010 04:07 PM

http://stipistop.com/blog/wp-content...looded-rx8.jpg

Lord ET 02-24-2010 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by cidvicious831 (Post 3445572)
lol yeah i know i should warm the car up before i turn it off, but my wife and i were having an argument about something and she wanted to leave her perants house (ware my car is right now) so i just parked it in and left it there over night. oh well iguess

I'm really amazed that you have over 300 posts and haven't stumbled across "Don't shut your car off cold or it will flood" somewhere..

Razz1 02-24-2010 04:38 PM

Good Photo Chop

jasonrxeight 02-24-2010 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by ZumnRx8 (Post 3445575)

:ylsuper:
this is real isnt it. no way photochop could do that

maskedferret 02-24-2010 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by jasonrxeight (Post 3445658)
no way photochop could do that

I beg to differ.

cidvicious831 02-24-2010 05:36 PM

ok guys i removed the spark plugs and they smell like gas. gonna replace them. but if i replace them will they get filled with gas as well?

rodjonathan 02-24-2010 05:51 PM

i think you should use the same plugs to deflood it then put new ones in ... sounds like you definitely flooded it

cidvicious831 02-24-2010 07:02 PM

i put them back in and it still not working!!

Lord ET 02-24-2010 07:08 PM

It usually takes A LOT of cranking without them in to get ALL of the fuel out. I cranked with the ESS unplugged, plugs out, fuel fuse pulled and gas pedal to the floor (You really need to be reading the deflooding procedure) for at least 30 minutes. Not in one crank of course. 7 seconds at a time with 15 seconds rests in between. After ALL liquid stopped spitting out of the plug holes I put in new plugs and tried cranking again (after plugging everything back in) It still took me 3 or 4 tries before the motor sputtered back into life. I had to give it partial throttle to keep it alive for a few minutes, but then after all the white smoke was gone it idled on its own and eventually smoothed out. Keep reading the forum for deflooding threads.

cidvicious831 02-24-2010 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by Lord ET (Post 3445803)
It usually takes A LOT of cranking without them in to get ALL of the fuel out. I cranked with the ESS unplugged, plugs out, fuel fuse pulled and gas pedal to the floor (You really need to be reading the deflooding procedure) for at least 30 minutes. Not in one crank of course. 7 seconds at a time with 15 seconds rests in between. After ALL liquid stopped spitting out of the plug holes I put in new plugs and tried cranking again (after plugging everything back in) It still took me 3 or 4 tries before the motor sputtered back into life. I had to give it partial throttle to keep it alive for a few minutes, but then after all the white smoke was gone it idled on its own and eventually smoothed out. Keep reading the forum for deflooding threads.

yeah the holse of my spark plugs are spitting gas, so im gonna re-clean them and unplug the fuse for the gas and also the airpump and keep doing so for 30 or so min.

treaven20 02-24-2010 07:34 PM

while you wait, take a look at a dictionary. spell fail and good luck with the car!! :)

cidvicious831 02-24-2010 09:09 PM

sorry for my spelling since english is a second languge to me!


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