ChrisLeakfan4life

I am a 20 year old College Kid who is very fortunate to not have to pay a lot of Bills. Right now my parents pay pretty much almost everything. I have to pay my car payment on my 04 RX8($315 a month) and than i pay a little bit for rent($200).

Anyway i am thinking about saving up money for the next year or so and buying a New Lancer Ralliart. I am hoping i can save up and get the cost on of those those down to the 16-18K price range(i know they will run around 28k after taxes and fee's. I could make a little on trade in or private party on my RX8 by then).


I like the RX8, i got rid of my Mazda 3 pretty quickly, and i like the styling of the RX8. RX8 is a great car and has a great design, always wanted one ever since i saw X Men 2.


Anyway my question for the older people on here is, The Ralliart has an estimated 235 HP and i believe 253 lb's of torque. Any idea on how much my insurance would go up? I know that when i went from a Mazda 3 to an RX8 my insurance only went up $15 a month. I have never been in an accident or had a ticket. I know that there are many things that can go into it i was just wondering if a car like that would cause a big jump in insurance cost.



Another question i have is are Mitsubishi's generally reliable? I have driven 3 cars my whole life, an Acura Integra, Mazda 3, and a Mazda RX8. So far all have been pretty reliable, the 8 had some problems like my rail tail light fogged up, seal on the gas tank where you put the gas in was broke etc etc.


Anyway i guess i will have to wait until the car is released and can be fully reviewed by the car experts(I usually use Car and Driver). I love the RX8 but the for the price that the gas cost, i would rather have something a little more powerful.


If anybody here could chime in on the car itself(how you think the power in the car would be) and how Mitsubishi's as a company, how reliable their cars are and do you think switching from an RX8 to a car like that would cause a big boost in insurance cost i would appreciate it.


Just looking to hear you guys thoughts on the car. I would like to have a relatively new car for when i graduate college that way i won't have to worry about a car for awhile.

mauricio

The insurance on a basic lancer is way less than the rx8. But if the insurance sees it as an evo derived than that's another story.

I had an eclypse & the new style lancer but the engine is to weak I tried going the econamical route but I hate myself so i got into a 08 rx8 also had an 05 rx8.

I put 20,000 miles on that lancer never went to the dealer only oil changes pretty good cars.

CarAndDriver

I think the new Ralliart Lancer should be pretty competitive as long as they price it well.

superglue

- Who doesn't want a relatively new car coming out of college.

- Get something realistic and practical unless you plan on living with mom and dad for many years to come. A car with a low cost of ownership is invaluable to people with limited funds.

- We don't know anything more about the Ralliart that isn't already spread around the internet.

ChrisLeakfan4life

I wasn't really looking for exact information on the car itself, i was asking about Mitsubishi as a company overall and a car around that engine specifications would have any power.

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Ike

I think at first the insurance will be pretty reasonable and similar to the previous Ralliart since it's what the insurance companies have to base things off of. It'll probably be a little more due to the higher HP, but better safety and AWD will be in its favor. If they take a look at the Evo and base rates off of that you'll be screwed...

The Ralliart has potential to steal a lot of thunder from the WRX. If it's better than the Lancer GTS (a surprisingly good car) but not quite as good as the Evo and priced around the mid 20's Mitsubishi will have a sales hit.

Mitsubishi as a whole is similar to Mazda when it comes to reliability. Not as good as Toyota, Honda, and Subaru, but good enough for most people. Mitsubishi had some financial struggles but they seem to be making a lot of good moves of late and they're posting pretty big sales gains despite the slumping economy.

superglue

The WRX lost any thunder it still had a year ago. And unless Subaru plans on countering the Ralliart with a better performing WRX, the Mitsu will clean house in sales. Baring any serious foul ups on Mitsu's part, the Lancer RA will be the new king of the mid-$20K hill.

And OP,

Please note that you're asking about Mitsubishi on an RX-8 forum.

ChrisLeakfan4life

Thanks for the great response, very helpful.

ChrisLeakfan4life

Yeah i realize that, but it is helpful to compare it to a Rx8 which i currently have.

Renesis07

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Subaru has a new STi, I saw one the other day up close. It looks WAY conservative compared to what were all used too. Nice car. Theyre going the same route as Mits, turning these boy racer cars into more civilized cars. So in other words, the ralliart will be more practical and reliable. I think this dude realizes that hes asking RX8 owners about an Evo. Thats why he posted it in discussion, just trying to get some opinions.

My thoughts, its a nice car but it will be way different from an RX8. Test drive and see what you like. I personally like it way better than the new STi and Ive always had a soft spot for evolutions. My .02

ChrisLeakfan4life

Thank you for that response, very helpful.

I am not sure if i will buy one or not, right now i can afford one with no problem, however i am only in Junior College right now and i know that once i transfer to a 4 year school(to finish my last two years), trying to work enough hours to pay for the car and gas(and no other bills) could become challenging because of the amount of workload at a 4 year school.


I really want this car but at the same time i need to responsible. All i can do is work and save up as much money as possible until the car comes out and i figured out what the price is.

Renesis07

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It can get hecktic, I did that **** for a while being a full time student, full time at my job, and paying for my car, rent, tuition, GAS, and trying to mod. It gets tough but well worth it.

Ike

Though I'm not a big fan of the new WRX, the entire Impreza line has been selling better than any of the past models. At least last time I checked they were...

alienRX8

I think the new impreza is fugly as hell

I sure hope mits takes subaru of the top

VikingDJ

Yes, they are. The enthusiasts have began to lose interest in Subaru, with, many WRX and STI owners on forums loving their 02-07 models, and not liking the 08 because it's turned soft and the STI is only a hatch. In reality, Subaru is making more pleasing cars to the general public. My Dad didn't take any kind of liking to my 04 STI, but when we were at the dealership taking my Mom's 08 Outback in for service, we sat in the 08 STI in the showroom, and he was very into it, just as I was. Imagining that as my daily winter/beater commuter car to replace my Speed 6, I'mdreaming, but I'd take one in a heartbeat if I could afford it.

As enthusiasts, we tend to think Subaru is failing, but they are doing what Honda and Toyota do, and that's hit the everyday market. I hapen to love the new STI, but only from a general consumer standpoint, not as a pure enthusiast, so I can fully understand members of this forum and others not liking the new Impreza line. Fact is though, it's succeeding in sales, because it's gone mainstream.


Subaru is going where the money is at, and it's not enthusiasts. More power to them

superglue

It's hard to tell. Subaru only releases information regarding the entire Impreza line. Subaru has been making record Impreza sales for the last 8-10 months, but there's no data on how much of those sales have been from the WRX. It's safe to say that the base Impreza is selling much better, but hearing from several different sales reps, the WRX isn't moving as much as it used to. Time will tell with the STI.

Sinequanon

I Can vouche for a mitsi's reliablity- I have a 2002 OZ Rally Lancer that I've absolutely given hell, and its still chugging along at 103k, and people still like it-It doesn't really look its age.
EDIT: for about a year and a half, the lancer was also being driven 120+ miles a day, absolutely fine, minus having to change the oil more often than I like to.


The only problem I've ever had was a cracked master brake cylinder that may have been caused by water getting in the line and freezing one morning (Was on my way to my first set of finals in college and ended up on the curb because the brakes didn't work. Worked after that though!) Oh, and the fact the alternator belt that squeaks sometimes is a to change because of the sideways motor and even my small hands don't fit.

But, as a whole, Mitsi will never be my favorite car-underpowered and if you have a Lancer of any type, its an EVO. As in no one seems to realize that they made different types.

Insurance shouldn't be that bad, as most insurances will group the ralliart with the base models because of the lack of forced induction. If I was you, I'd check out esurance.com just to get a general Idea what you are looking at price wise, plus you can play around with different levels of coverage, which is nice if you have a specific price range.

Speaking from experience however, be careful about getting yourself too far indebt at this point. Lots of college grads can go 4-6 months looking for a job, moreso likely with the current downturn in economy, so be prepared to get by on a minimum amount ,and don't stretch yourself to thin- College is no fun when you can't afford to drive anywhere else, much less go out with friends!

05rex8

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drove a new lancer gts at work today...they effing suck for a car over $20K. cheap interiors, ugly park bench spoiler, slow, loud engine....FAIL. I hate any mitsubishi...just my opinion...no offense to anyone.

superglue

The next Ralliart WILL be turbocharged and AWD. I doubt they will rate it along with the bas model. And there's not much info released on the car so he's going to have to wait till next year for a quote.

ChrisLeakfan4life

Yeah the new Ralliart will be carrying 235 HP and 253 LBS of Torque.

Renesis07

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If you dont mind me asking, why wouldnt you go for an evo?? By the time youre ready, youll be able to pick up a used evo X for the same price more than likely.

ChrisLeakfan4life

#1 Insurance, i am 20 years old and and Evo would really raise my insurance up, i am hoping this ralliart does not as much.

#2 They only come in a Manual from what ive seen.


I looked at a used EVO 9 and they have some decently used price ones, but they are only in manual's.

Renesis07

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Not true they come in a manumatic similar to VW's DSG trans.......Thats at least what they were saying prior to release. Ill search around to confirm.

Renesis07

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hfUiihCj10

6 speed manual OR A 6 SPEED DUAL CLUTCH AUTO....

your welcome

ChrisLeakfan4life

Thanks for that bit of information, i will have to look into it but i bet Insurance would be extremely expensive