HeelnToe

No, IT is just fine, while YOU need more power. Don't flaw the car because it wasn't designed to meet your personal performance requirements.

On the other hand, I think Mazda pulled the design goals from my brain when they created the 8, lol, so I'm one very happy camper

I don't care if a Geo Metro can out-drag me. I promise you he's still not having as much fun.

zoom44

im sorry but his statement does not agree with what you just said at all. his full statement-

is that on his first day at this track with his stock RX-8 with just 2k miles on it is "damn near as fast" around that track as his MODIFIED mustang COBRA.

you are comparing a modified car against one that is stock. it is very clear from his posts that with a little more seat time and maybe some sway bars his 8 will eat his cobra around that track. i have no doubt it will also beat yours. yes the 8 is out of the box under powered compared to its rivals and alot of modified cars. however it's handling and braking are the reasons that many many journalists have chosen it over those higher powered rivals which include the mustang cobra,g35c, 350z etc.

anyone metioned that this thread is over a year old?

Furby

I think everyone's being a bit harsh on stangonline. keep in mind that he only tested it for 15 minutes. and he's only saying that the car, as it is, isn't quite for him. he prefers the higher power. People have different tastes. Besides, if everyone thought the 8 was fine, then you'd see them everywhere.

Stangonline

I guess we each read it how we want to... You obviously wanted to hear that the rx8 was faster... thats not what he was saying - he said it was easier to drive...

Stangonline

I was trying to be unbiased... most of you are obviously biased (see where we are..)..

I think the car is great.. If I had to rate it in the numerous areas.. it would be a 8-9 in many of them but a pitiful 4-5 in the speed department. I would just like to see it more balanced. Im only saying what I would change that would make it MY ideal car. If the fact that the other bells an whistles makes up for its lack of power for you guys, then good, you can be more content than I.

If anyone wants to meet me anywhere - Ill teach your RX8s something - but as I said before, I will be the one needing a kidney transplant when were done, not you... hence the compliments toward the rx8..

Mugatu

iTrader: (1)

enough.

Stangonline

Not very friendly around here. Some of you understand what I have been saying.

I sincerely hope that the rest of you dont represent the typical RX8 owner, or I might have to avoid the car altogether so that someone doesn't mistake me for an a-hole...

Ike

Your review of it prettymuch looks a lot like my old review. I liked the car a lot, but it lacked power to me, and that seems to be pretty tricky to fix with mods. So because I said I thought the RX-8 needed more power everyone assumes I don't like the RX-8. Just be happy you're getting the new generation of blind loyalists, the last one was far more harsh :p

DreRX8

its so easy to name call and talk noise from the comfort of the computer-- all this bashing aside--if a little tact is employed here and there, things can de-escalate. I don't agree with everything you are saying and I definately don't agree with your attitude; but on the topic of your sentiments about the RX8--wait for Mazda to come out with the Mazdaspeed 8 or aftermarket FI, or get a more torquey car. You've said your 'point' several times I think its time for you to move around, talk about something else--this thread is only going to degenerate.

zoom44

you know i was thinking the same thing but im glad you said it everyone has been actually fairly nice up until the ahole comment there wasnt any name calling at all. peopel have been(are) much nastier with you.

zoom44

did i mention that this thread is a year old? and that revhappy is still around posting on these forums? must be doing something right here to keep him around.

Stangonline

Agreed.. Believe me, I hated bring it up so many times, just about as much as you hated reading it. I simply felt that my opinion was not sinking in for some people.

Me: This ball is round. (holding baseball)
Loyalist: that ball is square
Me: If it looks square to you, then fine....but its round...



Ill tell you one thing - if I posted on a mustang forum and said that the car needed a little more of xyz to make it more balanced (and others had already agreed to some sort of deficiency in the same area), people would jump on the wagon because what can it hurt? Do you not want a faster car?

Take care peoples

AQA101

Point taken, there are days (well, minutes at least) when I think "why the heck do I need this fuel eating monster as my daily ride - wouldn't it be smart to do something else with the money?" Yeah, of course there are moments of doubt, like there are with my girl, my job and my life in general.

But every single time, the car answers the question.

This car makes me feel good and made everyone else who traveled in it feel so far - there's nothing more important I would expect for my money. I'd like to see a slightly (more) solid feel and improved mpg, besides that, the car still gets better every day.

Stangonline

^^ thats what its all about

spork

Bah, I have to pipe up again even though I said this before. Your analogy is wrong. Because you're not just saying a truth and people aren't just denying that truth. You're spitting out a truth and then overloading it with extreme statements. People agree with the basic principle of what you said but disagree with your statements.

Do I think the 8 can use more power? Of course. Do I think it can match a lot of its competitors in torque and umph? Nope. So we're in full agreement there. I've seen that mentioned a lot on this forum and in most reviews. The 8 is just not torquey.

Now what do I disagree with? The 626 comment. The Mustang cornering and braking better than the 8 CAN be true, but you said it in a way that makes it sound like the 8 sucks vs that your Mustang is awesome. There's a difference in that. Like if I said "that girl is even uglier than my girlfriend" vs "my girlfriend is hotter than her". I think most people are taking it as "c'mon the 8's cornering and braking is even worse than my Mustang". Reviews and my personal experience tell me that the cornering and braking on the 8 are very very good. If your Mustang corners and brakes better than the 8 it's because your Mustang is INCREDIBLE not because the 8 has flaws.

So yeah...
* Needs more torque (tho I am happy as is, but I'd take more torque, hp any day)
* It's still a fast car. Near tops in twisties, weak in straight aways.
* Corners and brakes very well.

That's all.

Stangonline

Thats the way I meant it. I have done a lot of work to my car to make it perform the way it does... but at the same time, I thought I was giving compliments to the 8 in saying that my mustang would beat the hell out of me the whole time.. Basically saying that my car is imbalanced too - it has raw hp and performance but lacks manners. The rx8 has the potential of being a well balanced car (taking this from the general agreement that it could use more power) - I know some are happy the way it is, thats nice for them...

yamajj

you may have your opinion, but i'll give you my reasons for buying the rx-8 one week ago today. 1. rear wheel drive and 2. a six speed. if i want speed or handling, i'll kick a leg over either one of my two yamaha r1's. this car was bought for fun driving and it has surpassed my desire every time i've driven it.

yamajj

Ike

Yeah, and I never even said the Mustang or 626 stuff, I just said the 8 felt a little underpowered and that there was no way it was making 247hp... Good thing I was way off base there :p

Now we just need the goober the old STi thread bumped and we can really have some fun with the new guys

Elara

This thread has gotten way out of hand. Closing.