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Old 09-30-2006, 10:44 AM
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Mini Cooper S vs RX-8?

A coworker has a Mini Cooper S and she thinks she can beat me in the twisties. Is she full of it?
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A coworker has a Mini Cooper S and she thinks she can beat me in the twisties. Is she full of it?
My money would be on the 8. The S handles great, but it's not powerful enough and its FWD.
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8 all the way.... how good a driver are you?
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Take her to the Dragon and let her eat it hahaha!
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lets see she drives a mini cooper S and is trying to run your 8?.....how bout you let her race you...let her win...and then get into those pan*ies its quite obvious she's cute from the car she drives
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lets see she drives a mini cooper S and is trying to run your 8?.....how bout you let her race you...let her win...and then get into those pan*ies its quite obvious she's cute from the car she drives

Big chicks dig small cars
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Big chicks dig small cars
Fat chic's need luving to !
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I have a Cooper S...no way it beats an 8...funnily enough though you can feel plenty of torque in the Cooper and it has about the same as the 8. The Cooper is way too heavy for its size which makes it understeer badly when you turn too hard. Plus the magazines numbers are proof. C&D pulled .85 on the skidpad for the Mini versus .91 in their comparo with the 8 and .88 in their long-term. In fact, I don't think its even close who wins.
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Excellent... maybe we'll race for pinks then
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Skidpad tests are useless... theyre mostly for tire grips.
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Tell her you'll take her out if you lose. Make it close but let her win. You'll win other places :P
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Originally Posted by gummyAvenger
A coworker has a Mini Cooper S and she thinks she can beat me in the twisties. Is she full of it?

Take it the track. Driver is the biggest variable but all else being equal, the 8 will eventually, walk away from the Cooper from my experience. I emphasis that my experience is on the track in HPDEs. In a full on race, the 8 might have trouble passing a very well driven Cooper S. In HPDE, the 8 will be right on its tail...until waved by and then slowly drive away.
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Im suprised that no one asked for her pics. ill do it. pics of the chick with the mini?
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I will say go for it.

Kick her ***

then bring her to bed (if it applies)
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Originally Posted by gummyAvenger
A coworker has a Mini Cooper S and she thinks she can beat me in the twisties. Is she full of it?
It comes down to the right foot. I can beat you in a Mini S.

My trick is to put R spec tyres on the S then I really kick your ***.

The S is about 1-2 seconds slower on track. Not by much, especially tuned ones
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I have both. My car is a MT 04 RX8 and my wife's is a MT 03 Mini Cooper S. Both are definitely fun to drive. The Mini handles very well and has a fun amount of power but My RX8 will walk away from her Mini S without much drama.
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Hey wait. Gummy, I just realized your're the new RX8 owner in Cool Springs TN right? Meet me for lunch some time and I'll see if I can get my wife to let me borrow her Mini S for the day. You could see for yourself. Of coarse, it might be more fun to get your co-oworker to show you herself. he he
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the Cooper is great. It handles like a go kart.

Your friend will beat ya on the twisties unless yoour good.

Sounds like the both of you need to go to a HDPE.

Learn to be safe and have fun.
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Thanks for the info! I've only had my RX-8 for about 5 weeks and it's my first manual, so perhaps she could beat me (not on public streets of course). Then again, her Mini is her first manual too, though she's only had it since November I think.

Perhaps soon I'll take some sort of driving course sometime and head to the track. I think I would absolutely love that.

Pics? Haha... well, there are pictures of all of us on our company site. Shouldn't be too hard to figure out who's who if you read the profiles.
http://www.stuphmerch.com/

Yeah, I'm the new RX-8 owner in Cool Springs. I'm up for lunch with another rotary owner any time. I'm sure there's tons I could learn
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Please don't race someone in the twisties. As much fun as it is to drive, racing on narrow public roads is a recipe for disaster. Keep in mind racetracks are much wider than normal roads, which allows cleaner passing, not to mention gravel traps and close medical attention. In my opinion, it's just not worth it.

By the way, what roads are you thinking about? If you give me the area and the road name I can Google Earth it.
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Thanks for the advice. I wouldn't actually race on public roads. I'm **** even about the speed limit Not sure about what roads around here are good. I'm in Franklin (Nashville area), TN though.
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Go to a racetrack and get a timing transpoder fitted for both of you. Public roads are just way too dangerous! The Mini has a short wheelbase and it should be very good in very tight bends. The way I see it... you should be able to use the RX8's superb chassis balance to come out on top. GOOD LUCK!


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