maybe the lost HP is not lost
 

engine year vehicle disp. hp torque

13B Twin 92+ RX-7 Seq. Turbo 654 x 2 = 1308 9.0 255/6500, 217/5000
MSPRE 95+ RX-01 MulSidPrt x 2 220/8500, 159/6500
13B Renesis 99 RX-Evolv NA engine, 280 HP



Seems the rx-8 and renesis started as 280 hp
then became 250 hp - as touted
then to 238 hp - as sold
and dyno at what? 220hp?

Did Mazda just drop a 1995 mspre into
the RX-8 with 220 hp@8500 and 159T@5500 :confused:

the mspre 95 was never sold, the numbers are mazda's creation. it is however the prototype for what became the renesis. the path went 220(mspre)-280(rx-evolv)-250(rx8 #1)-238(rx8 #2, which is really more like 220).

the engine was detuned due to emissions regulations regarding the catalytic coverter's lifespan.

Too bad we can't opt to replace the cat every year for the added ponies.

Didn't he post this same flawed hypothesis a couple days ago? Deja vu...

that's what stage 1 is for!

(and it reduces cat life to a hypothetical 50k miles, which isn't all that bad)

yea really, who needs a cat :D

sorry if it was double posted, but the webn site must have been slow to show the thread.

I don't think the theory is 'flawed', but it is strange that the RX-8 HP is what themspre was in 1995.
Probably only minor variations between mspre and renesis.

The theory is flawed, because it implies that Mazda has done almost no development to the rotary since 1995.;)

It was aliens, they brainwashed Mazda engineers into putting a low HP engine into the RX-8 as to disgruntle owners in an attempt to shake the world in order to take over all racing events.

replace "aliens" with "Brain and Pinky" and you have my theory ^^

When you say that's what stage 1 is for, do you mean canzoomer?

yes

Maybe the aliens left the 250 HP rotary in your RX-8!

Mine was left with the 'rotary of the year' model.

Wish those aliens would have reduced the fuel usage when they reduced the HP :D

by mazda doing what they did, they reduced power and increased consumption!

instead of just putting a better CAT on the car...goddamn cost models