Lighted rear accent???
05-10-2008, 08:23 AM
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True, about the wiring...................and at least we know he has some taste as well! 
Will be interesting to see what the new on looks like because I like that original so much and the install was great...............nice, clean, and easy.
Will be interesting to see what the new on looks like because I like that original so much and the install was great...............nice, clean, and easy.
05-14-2008, 04:12 PM
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Hi Everyone,
Here are more details regarding our new RX-FX Rear Rotary Stealth Light.
It will be more of a do it yourself kit, which is why we're going to be able to offer it at a significantly reduced price compared to the old light.
It will utilize a single high powered red LED bulb with easy wiring. Installation will be similar to the old light with the exception of the lens. The new dark red lens we're offering will need to be inserted into the rotary recess with silicone sealant that will be included with the rear light kit.
We do have pictures on the site of the new light. We also hope to post installation instructions on our site prior to the expected June release.
Thanks for all of the feedback and we're looking forward to the launch.
Here are more details regarding our new RX-FX Rear Rotary Stealth Light.
It will be more of a do it yourself kit, which is why we're going to be able to offer it at a significantly reduced price compared to the old light.
It will utilize a single high powered red LED bulb with easy wiring. Installation will be similar to the old light with the exception of the lens. The new dark red lens we're offering will need to be inserted into the rotary recess with silicone sealant that will be included with the rear light kit.
We do have pictures on the site of the new light. We also hope to post installation instructions on our site prior to the expected June release.
Thanks for all of the feedback and we're looking forward to the launch.
05-14-2008, 04:26 PM
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Wtf ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????????????????ALL This For That!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bring Back The Old One
Good Luck Selling That Plastic S______
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05-22-2008, 06:10 PM
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I zoom therefore I am.
It might just be me, but it doesn't look like you could fit the rear accent on with that red plastic piece. If the accent were on I think it would clean up the look of the glued in plastic.
05-22-2008, 06:33 PM
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go to the juckyard closer to you .
get any socket an light bulb put them in u pocket is free, wire it to u car ligths
get flex acrilic red o any color cut it glue it done maybe maybe it will cost you 5 dollars no more
this is a f---- joke
get any socket an light bulb put them in u pocket is free, wire it to u car ligths
get flex acrilic red o any color cut it glue it done maybe maybe it will cost you 5 dollars no more
this is a f---- joke
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05-22-2008, 11:14 PM
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I felt that I needed to personally address the negative comments we’re seeing here concerning our new light. We’ll be the first to agree with you that it is not a direct replacement for what we used to sell. We wanted to position it as more of a do-it-yourself kit, at a price point that was very reasonable. No drilling, everything already assembled, all necessary hardware and photo instructions included, but still a bit customizable for the user.
The old unit was “slick.” We won’t argue that. It was a self-contained sealed unit with about 17 large LEDs on a specially cut circuit board. The plastic lens was hand-cast and hand-polished and available in both red and a dark tinted “stealth” version. The center lights and corner lights could be set up to work independently or together - brake or parking lights, or both. We even had it designed to fit behind a rotary accent. All this, and it retailed for only about $125. Nice, right?
We only had one problem with it. No one wanted to buy it. It didn’t help that this was mostly a U.S. only product, as many other countries already have the factory fog light installed. I think we actually got more emails asking us to significantly lower the price to something ridiculous, than we had actual orders.
The end result was that some of the parts suppliers we were working with required larger commitments from us (more units and/or increased cost for such a low volume). Figuring it out today, if we tried to bring it back, we’d probably have to price it well into the $200 range to make it worth our while. Given the demand we had at $125, it’s not something we’ll even consider.
Here’s the one thing you need to keep in mind concerning the RX-8 aftermarket parts industry. This is the thing we try to remind ourselves of daily.
We do not drive a Mustang!
So there’s not always enough of a potential market for new products. I don’t know if you all understand how much it actually costs to have something manufactured, especially when the production volumes are so low. It’s not cheap. Really. Tooling fees can be a killer. Depending on the manufacturing process used, you could be looking at tooling in the low thousands to tens of thousands before you even begin paying for any parts. And then, if you’re not buying enough parts, your per unit cost begins to rocket up. Ask anyone manufacturing aftermarket parts for this car, and they’ll probably tell you they are making parts in the hundreds, and not in the thousands.
We do have a prototype of the new unit installed on our car, and are very happy with the results, even compared to the old LED unit. But, if you’re not interested in our new light, we completely understand. We knew going in it wouldn’t be for everyone. You know what's strange? The old LED unit got quite a bit of negative press too before we even sold the first one, and now you'd think it was the greatest thing since sliced bread.
I do see an opportunity here. If any of you would like to tackle manufacturing a better model with all the bells and whistles, and can maintain a minimal production volume and consistent reproducibility, we would be very interested in discussing it with you. I’ve seen some of the do-it-yourself threads. I know there are a lot of very creative people on this forum with a lot to offer this community in the way of innovative products. Since we’re always looking for new products to add to our store, we’d be happy to provide an outlet.
- Dave (taking over Heather's account for the evening!)
The old unit was “slick.” We won’t argue that. It was a self-contained sealed unit with about 17 large LEDs on a specially cut circuit board. The plastic lens was hand-cast and hand-polished and available in both red and a dark tinted “stealth” version. The center lights and corner lights could be set up to work independently or together - brake or parking lights, or both. We even had it designed to fit behind a rotary accent. All this, and it retailed for only about $125. Nice, right?
We only had one problem with it. No one wanted to buy it. It didn’t help that this was mostly a U.S. only product, as many other countries already have the factory fog light installed. I think we actually got more emails asking us to significantly lower the price to something ridiculous, than we had actual orders.
The end result was that some of the parts suppliers we were working with required larger commitments from us (more units and/or increased cost for such a low volume). Figuring it out today, if we tried to bring it back, we’d probably have to price it well into the $200 range to make it worth our while. Given the demand we had at $125, it’s not something we’ll even consider.
Here’s the one thing you need to keep in mind concerning the RX-8 aftermarket parts industry. This is the thing we try to remind ourselves of daily.
We do not drive a Mustang!
So there’s not always enough of a potential market for new products. I don’t know if you all understand how much it actually costs to have something manufactured, especially when the production volumes are so low. It’s not cheap. Really. Tooling fees can be a killer. Depending on the manufacturing process used, you could be looking at tooling in the low thousands to tens of thousands before you even begin paying for any parts. And then, if you’re not buying enough parts, your per unit cost begins to rocket up. Ask anyone manufacturing aftermarket parts for this car, and they’ll probably tell you they are making parts in the hundreds, and not in the thousands.
We do have a prototype of the new unit installed on our car, and are very happy with the results, even compared to the old LED unit. But, if you’re not interested in our new light, we completely understand. We knew going in it wouldn’t be for everyone. You know what's strange? The old LED unit got quite a bit of negative press too before we even sold the first one, and now you'd think it was the greatest thing since sliced bread.
I do see an opportunity here. If any of you would like to tackle manufacturing a better model with all the bells and whistles, and can maintain a minimal production volume and consistent reproducibility, we would be very interested in discussing it with you. I’ve seen some of the do-it-yourself threads. I know there are a lot of very creative people on this forum with a lot to offer this community in the way of innovative products. Since we’re always looking for new products to add to our store, we’d be happy to provide an outlet.
- Dave (taking over Heather's account for the evening!)
05-23-2008, 06:57 AM
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I DID! I had my money in Paypal ready to pay you until I saw they were discontinued. Any chance you have any leftover (even a prototype) that I could take off your hands?
If not, what can you offer in more of a 'stealth' fashion. I, like many other members like that look instead of the red lens, especially in its new form. If that had a dark lens, it could help.
Also, from what you are describing, and from what I see in the photos, can this NOT work with Rotary Accent?
If not, what can you offer in more of a 'stealth' fashion. I, like many other members like that look instead of the red lens, especially in its new form. If that had a dark lens, it could help.
Also, from what you are describing, and from what I see in the photos, can this NOT work with Rotary Accent?
05-23-2008, 03:58 PM
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If not, what can you offer in more of a 'stealth' fashion. I, like many other members like that look instead of the red lens, especially in its new form. If that had a dark lens, it could help.
Also, from what you are describing, and from what I see in the photos, can this NOT work with Rotary Accent?
05-23-2008, 05:03 PM
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The best looking unit is still the OEM rear fog light which can also be wired as a third brake light: (this is not mine, just a random pic I found of it)
I have the Derwankel home-brewed model. Unfortunately I broke the socket off of the back of mine, so currently it doesn't light up. I plan on putting a larger 7443 dual filiment bulb in it as my next DIY project and wiring it as a 3rd taillight & brakelight.
I have the Derwankel home-brewed model. Unfortunately I broke the socket off of the back of mine, so currently it doesn't light up. I plan on putting a larger 7443 dual filiment bulb in it as my next DIY project and wiring it as a 3rd taillight & brakelight.