keep the 8 or trade for 95 FD r2???
03-09-2005, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
A friend of mine has a mint silver 95 rx-7 r2 with 38,000km.....He offered to trade straight up for my 8 which btw is a base model w/14,000km.....I have owned a 93 b4 and i miss it dearly 
.....I guess a turbo would help the 8 a lot but the 7 is a legend in itself and it looks like mazda will never make another one....what do y'all think?
.....I guess a turbo would help the 8 a lot but the 7 is a legend in itself and it looks like mazda will never make another one....what do y'all think?Also, does he seriously want to sell it? If so how much?
As for your earlier question, I don't feel it's worth the money that you paid for the Rx-8 (not yet anyways) even though it's a rare find. Especially in Canada.
03-09-2005, 01:37 PM
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Yes it is stock but had all the reliable mods...ie fluidine rad,,silicon vac. lines ect.
It drives like new with no suspension play at all....the guy wants $25,000 usd.....remember it only has 38,000km which is about 20,000 miles
It drives like new with no suspension play at all....the guy wants $25,000 usd.....remember it only has 38,000km which is about 20,000 miles
03-09-2005, 01:52 PM
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its 8 psi is the typical max stock boost. But of course that creeps up with basic performance upgrades. edit: 10psi max--in a 10-8-10 boost pattern.
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03-09-2005, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dmp
How may PSI does a stock FD run? 
My point was - while the FD may have more stock whp, the renesis, psi-for-psi could have more potential.
For the record, I've seen a 100% stock FD run 13.5.
(mid, not high 13s)
hehe
My point was - while the FD may have more stock whp, the renesis, psi-for-psi could have more potential.
For the record, I've seen a 100% stock FD run 13.5.
(mid, not high 13s)hehe
03-09-2005, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by G8rboy
I tought they ran around 8PSI stock... but they can handle a whole lot more, like 16-18PSI with upgraded injectors. With the 8's ECU so deeply involved with so many of the vehicle's systems, I don't think were' going to see that kind of boost possible for a long time, if at all.
http://rx7.voodoobox.net/infofaq/bguide3g/bguide3g.html
Take the car for a drive and be easy on it until the engine is warm. The temperature gauge should reach a horizontal position (3 and 9 o'clock) and should not go above that position. Once the car is warmed up, you can do a boost test. The best way is to have a passenger call out the boost readings as you accelerate at WOT (wide open throttle) in 3rd gear (find a road where you can do this safely). At or before 3,000 rpm you should see around 10 psi (pounds per square inch, lb/in^2) of boost. At 4500 rpm you should see a quick drop to about 8 psi and an almost instantaneous recovery to 10 psi. It should continue to make 10 psi of boost until close to redline where it may drop a couple of psi. This is what is referred to as a 10-8-10 boost pattern. Note: At redline in 3rd gear you will be doing about 110 mph! So, unless you are doing this on a track, you will probably want to stop at 70-75 mph (depending on the speed limit).
Rotarygod: "Just to give some people an idea of how the numbers actually look, we need a frame of reference. The stock 3rd gen had more than 7 lbs boost and only got around 215-220 or so at the wheels. "
03-09-2005, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by dmp
Here's where i got my info:
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03-09-2005, 03:18 PM
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RX8 and a Truk....
Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
Fact is,,, the 8 is compromised,,where the 7 there are no compromises....sure at 7psi the renesis is at say 240whp but I highly doubt you will see a renesis with 20+ psi......its like comparing an sr20det to a b18c5 where boost is concerned!
I see it as the 7 is a compromise....with the 7, I have to buy ANOTHER car to carry the family around.
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03-09-2005, 03:36 PM
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I do not know about you guys but
I think our Rx-8 will be as rare as FD once had been (which is now)
Our cars are clean. The stock engine already gives about clean 230 hp.
I'm going to treasure mine, and keep it as long as i can.
it's so freakin AWSOME!!!
As much as i love Rx-7. The only reason i didn't get it is because of age.
Why not get a new Rx-8 which is rare too and give it 10 years and see what happens?
I think our Rx-8 will be as rare as FD once had been (which is now)
Our cars are clean. The stock engine already gives about clean 230 hp.
I'm going to treasure mine, and keep it as long as i can.
it's so freakin AWSOME!!!
As much as i love Rx-7. The only reason i didn't get it is because of age.
Why not get a new Rx-8 which is rare too and give it 10 years and see what happens?
03-09-2005, 03:46 PM
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I'd take the 95 FD, that's rare by itself... how many exact number in the US? Low hundreds? And then buy another RX-8 as your family friendly car.
03-09-2005, 03:48 PM
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RX8s won't be rare like the FD--they've already made well over 100,000 of them--compare that to the less than 2,000 Competition Yellow Mica ones that were imported in 1993. And that is correct--the FDs are a 10-8-10 psi boost pattern. Stock the fastest time an FD has been clocked to 60 at is 4.9s--that's C5 Vette territory. Even the automatic FDs are slightly quicker than 6spd RX8s. Have no illusions--the FD is a no compromise race car for the street.
03-09-2005, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan13b
They imported 521 95 RX-7s into the US, I had S/N 474 I'd say probably around 100 to Canada.
I'd say probably around 100 to Canada.
And yes if I make the trade i will buy another 8!!! :D
03-09-2005, 04:01 PM
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not 100,000 in U.S. but worldwide. They celebrated rolling the 100,000th RX8 off of the assembly line a couple of months ago. There was a blurb about it on Reuters and in Mazdasport Magazine.
03-09-2005, 04:04 PM
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Ask your friend how much he wants for the 95 FD, color, specs, etc.. I might want to buy it and if the numbers are right, he could just go buy a new RX-8.
03-09-2005, 04:49 PM
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for all those who have never been behind the wheel of an r2 you are truely missing out it was one of the most exhilerating cars i have ever had the chance of driving.
i have been looking for an fd for a while since that time i have never come across one with less than 70k miles.
if its in good of condition as he says it is. i would trade up in a heart beat regardless of the fds problems. remember guys he used to own one so he knows what he could be getting into
i have been looking for an fd for a while since that time i have never come across one with less than 70k miles.
if its in good of condition as he says it is. i would trade up in a heart beat regardless of the fds problems. remember guys he used to own one so he knows what he could be getting into
03-09-2005, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by shakRpahX8
I do not know about you guys but
I think our Rx-8 will be as rare as FD once had been (which is now)
Our cars are clean. The stock engine already gives about clean 230 hp.
I'm going to treasure mine, and keep it as long as i can.
it's so freakin AWSOME!!!
As much as i love Rx-7. The only reason i didn't get it is because of age.
Why not get a new Rx-8 which is rare too and give it 10 years and see what happens?
I think our Rx-8 will be as rare as FD once had been (which is now)
Our cars are clean. The stock engine already gives about clean 230 hp.
I'm going to treasure mine, and keep it as long as i can.
it's so freakin AWSOME!!!
As much as i love Rx-7. The only reason i didn't get it is because of age.
Why not get a new Rx-8 which is rare too and give it 10 years and see what happens?
03-09-2005, 04:58 PM
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1995 RX7 R2 May become a collectible which would be worth a pretty penny. I would go for the RX7 if you plan to keep it for the investment potential.
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03-09-2005, 06:44 PM
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As it stands now--factory paint Competition Yellow Micas are the most desired--they were only available in 1993. The FD is arguably the most beautiful and purist car to ever come from Japan.
03-09-2005, 07:06 PM
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If I had the cash to buy that car and keep my RX-8 I would do it, an FD with that low km's\miles and it's stock AND and R2?! Damn! Maybe I would do the trade...tough decision. Only reason I would keep the RX-8 is that I wouldn't want to rack the mileage on such a sweet car and I would want to drive the 8 when i'm not driving the FD.
03-09-2005, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DreRX8
As it stands now--factory paint Competition Yellow Micas are the most desired--they were only available in 1993. The FD is arguably the most beautiful and purist car to ever come from Japan.
03-10-2005, 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryan13b
I agree. I've owned an FD, and if I can find a cheap project FD I'll own another some day.
The RX-8 is a better overall car. It's 90% as sporty as the FD, and 300% as practical as the FD.
The RX-8 is a better overall car. It's 90% as sporty as the FD, and 300% as practical as the FD.
I don't recall the specs of the first gen--but I believe my first gen 1985 GSL-SE had more torque that the 8 has. I could be wrong....
03-10-2005, 01:40 AM
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I don't recall the specs of the first gen--but I believe my first gen 1985 GSL-SE had more torque that the 8 has. I could be wrong....
RX-8 6 spd. (debatable) 238 hp/ 159 torque.
RX-8 auto (debatable) 197 hp/ 164 torque. Yes the auto does make more peak torque. That is not a misprint.
Even if these numbers aren't correct, the RX-8 will still make more torque than the GSL-SE. The GSL-SE "feels" like it has more torque because it peaks lower and because the car is much lighter.