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Old 05-21-2003, 01:04 PM
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All-new 250-hp, 1.3-liter, 2-rotor, in-line, RENESIS rotary engine (6-Speed Manual)
Question. How is it that the Renesis is an "in-line"?
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Question. How is it that the Renesis is an "in-line"?
because the rotors are 'in a line', one in front of the other?
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I wonder if a V-shaped rotory engine will ever be made? Not even sure how stable it would be in making a V.
Old 05-21-2003, 01:14 PM
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I hope that question mark is a typo.

I know most of you guys already know this, but the reason I think why the RX-8 Product and Comparison Guide is so repetitive is that the Mazda Corp wants the sales people not to forget to annoy us car buyers with info we already know.
Old 05-21-2003, 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by tripwire
... getting a read-out on the Navigation system would be pretty sweet. I really think the nav should have been designed to spit out more information concerning the health of the car.

Even my 2002 Explorer has a little computer that tells you
trip time
remaining miles to empty
oil life
all fluid levels
digital compass
ambient temp.

maybe that kind of stuff will make it in the RX-9
Or RX-3 ... or RX-6 and RX-7!

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And along those thoughts ...

Originally posted by tripwire
... getting a read-out on the Navigation system would be pretty sweet. I really think the nav should have been designed to spit out more information concerning the health of the car.
I picked this image up from another website - they claim it came from the May issue (Subscription ONLY) of Road and Track and it came with a supplement on the RX-8 and RX-8 Mazda Speed. Sorry no caption to include.

(And the May Road and Track supplement on the RX-8 that I picked up at the Mazda Rev-It-Up Event, here in Dallas, didn't show it either?)

I wonder if you could still use NAV too?

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Old 05-21-2003, 01:47 PM
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I'm ready for a job at Mazda now after reading that. Good find man!
Old 05-21-2003, 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by zoom44
on the not using the nav while driving front, after reading the bit on the website the language used there is very clear that they mean do not fiddle with the controls or attempt to put in new destinations while in motion.
Exactly. "Do not operate it" does not mean "do not have it in operation."
Old 05-21-2003, 03:10 PM
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i just gleaned this bit of info while reading

"Instant Mobility System (IMS) Emergency Flat Tire Repair Kit
The IMS emergency flat tire repair kit included with the RX-8 enables a temporary repair of a slightly damaged flat tire resulting from running over nails or similar sharp objects on the road surface. In the event of a flat tire, drivers should follow the instructions in the kit to repair the tire temporarily. After temporarily repairing a tire with the kit, the vehicle should be taken to a Mazda Dealer to have the tire replaced. While the RX-8 is not equipped with a spare tire as standard equipment, a temporary spare tire is available as a dealer-installed accessory."

does that really say after doing the temporary repair yourself that the tire then needs to be
replaced instead of just repaired by a proffessional. and if so why would i take it to mazda? unless they are going to give me an extreme discount on the tires it would be cheaper to go to a dedicated tire place.
Old 05-21-2003, 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by bwayout
And along those thoughts ...



I picked this image up from another website - they claim it came from the May issue (Subscription ONLY) of Road and Track and it came with a supplement on the RX-8 and RX-8 Mazda Speed. Sorry no caption to include. I wonder if you could still use NAV too?
That photo is what sold me on the $2k price for the nav unit. Not that Mazda will provide this additional info upgrade, but I'm sure there will be aftermarket stuff that can be connected to the factory screen.
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Originally posted by zoom44
...does that really say after doing the temporary repair yourself that the tire then needs to be replaced instead of just repaired by a proffessional...
Yes, while the "fix-a-flat" stuff temporarily fixes the tire, it will do long term damage to it, possibly causing delamination down the line, if it is left in there. This goes for any "fix-a-flat" type product. Keep this in mind before using such a product on any of your tires.

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well than that just might put me in the "getting the spare" group. although i'll have to wait awhile the donut spare will be cheaper in the long run than having to replace one of those tires because of a simple puncture.
Old 05-21-2003, 05:45 PM
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I have had to use the good old fix-flat a few times and the tire dealer has always made a point of saying that they completely washed out the inside of the tire when they repaired it -- I don't think it will be an issue unless somebody leaves the residue inside the tire for a long time.

I have had my current vehicle for 9 years and have never once used the spare tire (yes it does have low profile tires 245/17's).
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Originally posted by Sputnik
Yes, while the "fix-a-flat" stuff temporarily fixes the tire, it will do long term damage to it, possibly causing delamination down the line, if it is left in there. This goes for any "fix-a-flat" type product. Keep this in mind before using such a product on any of your tires.

---jps
While at work I was talking to two of my co-workers (both are real car nut experts) about the "fix-a-flat" spray and lack of spare tire on the RX-8 and one of them used it in the past, and warned me that it's a real hard time consuming mess to clean off from inside of the wheel rim!

Plus Sputnik is right that you can't repair the tire after it gets sprayed with that gook! This is only an emergency measure, you not suppose drive it for any long length of time becaue the tire starts to get eaten up from the inside out from that same gook that pluged the original hole (there's that word: "delamination" - The act of splitting or separating a laminate into layers), so he went to buying run-flats! Either way, you have to replace the tire(s - most of todays tire designs make you replace the bad one and the tandem tire)

Both have run-flats (on a corvette and original Mustang) and don't mind the loss of handling ... and both take their cars out to run at the race track.

Personally, I wish the trunk had room for a spare without taking up the rest of the space ...



It's going to look very silly when I mount my spare tire on the back bumper like a Jeep and throw off that wonderful 50/50 weight distribution!



Not!

:p :D

Edit: I forgot to mention that my co-worker said that it takes 2 cans to fix a tire!

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Originally posted by RXhusker
... the tire dealer has always made a point of saying that they completely washed out the inside of the tire when they repaired it -- I don't think it will be an issue unless somebody leaves the residue inside the tire for a long time.
RXhusker, That's great to hear! What brand do you use?



I wonder what the time frame or distance is considered safe (...less than 5 miles? under 50?) to drive around on?

I'll have to ask my friend and do a search on the web, he told me that he always had to replace the tire and they were nologer repairable due to the "gook" inside

OK, since I'm getting off topic, I'm going to post my links over here:

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...5&pagenumber=3

RX-8 Forum > General Topics > RX-8 Discussion > Whos Is/Isn't Getting Spare Tire Kit & Why?


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Been thinging alot about the spare/no spare. So today I went to my dealer,had him pull up my order on the Mazda screen and put a check on the spare option...Up came a new screen with my spare on the order...easy! ....but costly..If you ever cut the tire ,the can of "gunk" is useless...
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Used Fix-A-Flat brand. Tire was repaired both times. I took car immediately (within 24 hours) to the tire dealer for repair. They certainly didn't say the tire had to be replaced just because I used the fix-a-flat. I think the biggest concern is keeping the can in the car. There have been cases reported where the cans exploded due to the heat. Definitely supposed to keep in the trunk and avoid long exposure to very high temps. I think I would avoid I lived down in AZ in the summer!
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Originally posted by RXhusker
Used Fix-A-Flat brand. Tire was repaired both times. I took car immediately (within 24 hours) to the tire dealer for repair. They certainly didn't say the tire had to be replaced ...
Glad to hear it!


Originally posted by RXhusker
... I think the biggest concern is keeping the can in the car. There have been cases reported where the cans exploded due to the heat. Definitely supposed to keep in the trunk and avoid long exposure to very high temps. I think I would avoid I lived down in AZ in the summer!
That might not be a good thing for me, living here in Texas. It gets mighty darn hot in the summer ... even in the shade

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Why not just buy a small electric air pump (the kind that plug into the cigarette lighter socket) and a Safety Seal Repair Kit (Link). Use the seal as a temporary remedy until you can take it into get repaired properly.
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I thought the tire repair kit did come with a small electric air compressor you plug into the 12V outlet and well as the spray to plug the hole?
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Originally posted by DTECH-RX
I thought the tire repair kit did come with a small electric air compressor you plug into the 12V outlet and well as the spray to plug the hole?
Didn't know about the compressor.. But the safety seal kit is a plug not spray.
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Originally posted by Superfan


Didn't know about the compressor.. But the safety seal kit is a plug not spray.
When I saw the car in southbeach it had the spray not patch
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Originally posted by RotorGeek


When I saw the car in southbeach it had the spray not patch
I know, I'm just pointing out that we would be better off buying a patch kit instead of using the spray.
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Originally posted by Superfan
I know, I'm just pointing out that we would be better off buying a patch kit instead of using the spray.
Neither the patch kit nor the spray is going to help you if you get a cut or puncture in the sidewall, though... (it sounds unlikely, but the only flat I've had on my own cars in the past 15 years has been a 3" long, 1/8" diameter metal rod that somehow punctured my tire halfway up the sidewall on my way to work; when I got out of my vehicle at work I could hear the tire hissing...)
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Hi Eccles,

thanks for the interisting information.

Did I overlook it, or are there really no hints for salespeople on how to deal with questions about fuel consumption? Or is it such a non-issue in the US?


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