Igorant Owner = Engine Locking
02-18-2005, 01:57 PM
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Igorant Owner = Engine Locking
I wish I had pictures to back this one up but thank goodness I wasnt around to witness this or I might have gotten midevil on some ignorant rx-8 owner.
About 2 weeks ago a friend of my is porting cars around their lot. He's driving a rx-8 (black, red/black leather...thank god it wasn't blue!!! :p ) out to the gas station and back for pickup. While pulling outta the gas station the engine locks and he goes skidding down the road. All sorts of shaken, he gets out and calls for a manager to come across the street and see what the matter is. Turns out the jackhole that owns the car (purchased just over a month prior) never bothered to check the oil level once. Manager pulls the dipstick out and the resivoir is bone dry!!!!
Since the car was in the care of the dealer they are eating the cost of replacing his engine (bent rim, and probably a transmission)!!! 
Anyone out there need a new engine?? try being ignorant and not checking your oil EVER! and then taking it to the dealer for something non-engine related (brake TSB would work fine here)....hopefully the engine will lock while porting it around the lot and viola! new engine for you courtesy of you dealer.
DISCLAIMER: DO NOT IGNORE YOUR OIL LEVEL IN HOPES OF GETTING A NEW ENGINE!!!! The Author of this thread (RX8club.com, its moderators, etc.) take no responsibility for any of you stupid enough to attempt this.
About 2 weeks ago a friend of my is porting cars around their lot. He's driving a rx-8 (black, red/black leather...thank god it wasn't blue!!! :p ) out to the gas station and back for pickup. While pulling outta the gas station the engine locks and he goes skidding down the road. All sorts of shaken, he gets out and calls for a manager to come across the street and see what the matter is. Turns out the jackhole that owns the car (purchased just over a month prior) never bothered to check the oil level once. Manager pulls the dipstick out and the resivoir is bone dry!!!!
Since the car was in the care of the dealer they are eating the cost of replacing his engine (bent rim, and probably a transmission)!!! Anyone out there need a new engine?? try being ignorant and not checking your oil EVER! and then taking it to the dealer for something non-engine related (brake TSB would work fine here)....hopefully the engine will lock while porting it around the lot and viola! new engine for you courtesy of you dealer.
DISCLAIMER: DO NOT IGNORE YOUR OIL LEVEL IN HOPES OF GETTING A NEW ENGINE!!!! The Author of this thread (RX8club.com, its moderators, etc.) take no responsibility for any of you stupid enough to attempt this.
02-18-2005, 02:03 PM
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Wow, I'm very rarely on the side of the dealership, but I don't understand how they can be held responsible for a guy who never checked his oil.
Seems kinda unfair to me.
Seems kinda unfair to me.
02-18-2005, 03:33 PM
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I have some doubts about this story...
1) "purchased just over a month prior"- there is no way the Renesis can burn through the 7 quart oil capacity (Assuming this is a 6sp) in just over a month, unless there was something incredible wrong with the motor, leaking oil coolers, etc.
2) If it were that low, the oil warning light would be on, which the dealer's tech would have surely noticed, right ?
Something doesn't smell right...
1) "purchased just over a month prior"- there is no way the Renesis can burn through the 7 quart oil capacity (Assuming this is a 6sp) in just over a month, unless there was something incredible wrong with the motor, leaking oil coolers, etc.
2) If it were that low, the oil warning light would be on, which the dealer's tech would have surely noticed, right ?
Something doesn't smell right...
02-18-2005, 04:16 PM
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I will have to call BS on this story.How would you bend a rim by having the engine lock up?Plus there would be warning lights on the dash.No way the car burned all that oil that quickly.
02-18-2005, 06:27 PM
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Besides, if the engine completely siezed all the driver would need to do is push in the clutch. Also, even if he's an idiot and didn't do that it would lock up only the rear wheels.
On top of all of that, for the main bearing to lock up there would have to be some sort of solvant that completely removed all lubrication.
Or here's the more logical. Guy doing the port drops something in an intake port, the renisis has side ports so whatever it is goes round and round hugging the walls of the chamber, then it takes a lucky bounce, and jams a seal.
On top of all of that, for the main bearing to lock up there would have to be some sort of solvant that completely removed all lubrication.
Or here's the more logical. Guy doing the port drops something in an intake port, the renisis has side ports so whatever it is goes round and round hugging the walls of the chamber, then it takes a lucky bounce, and jams a seal.
that made no sense...
02-18-2005, 06:39 PM
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I'm gonna throw a BS. There's no way the engine could burn the 4+ quarts of oil in a month.
I think people are paranoid about checking the oil level on this forum, I used to check it in my FD every 6 weeks or so, never added more than a quart.
I think people are paranoid about checking the oil level on this forum, I used to check it in my FD every 6 weeks or so, never added more than a quart.
Drive it like you stole it and you can go through 4+ in a month...my guess is it was above the line...but not much...the dolt didn't check it and was redlining it around everywhere (like everyone does when they are complete with the breakin period).
4 quarts...is possible if you drive a lot. But this owner is an idiot...and on top of that the dealer should have filled up the tank and oil before it left
02-18-2005, 06:43 PM
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or maybe a technician DID do an oil change and forgot to put oil in the car~!! then the porter (a kid who gets paid 8 and hour) gets to drive a cool car and runs the **** out of it. maybe a lock up? but still, this story is pointless. we all know (or should better know) that plenty of oil in any car is vital. let's not assume anything...that only makes an *** out of U and ME
02-18-2005, 06:58 PM
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or maybe a technician DID do an oil change and forgot to put oil in the car~!! then the porter (a kid who gets paid 8 and hour) gets to drive a cool car and runs the **** out of it. maybe a lock up? but still, this story is pointless. we all know (or should better know) that plenty of oil in any car is vital. let's not assume anything...that only makes an *** out of U and ME
02-18-2005, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by truemagellen
Lets say the story is true...
Drive it like you stole it and you can go through 4+ in a month...my guess is it was above the line...but not much...the dolt didn't check it and was redlining it around everywhere (like everyone does when they are complete with the breakin period).
4 quarts...is possible if you drive a lot. But this owner is an idiot...and on top of that the dealer should have filled up the tank and oil before it left
Drive it like you stole it and you can go through 4+ in a month...my guess is it was above the line...but not much...the dolt didn't check it and was redlining it around everywhere (like everyone does when they are complete with the breakin period).
4 quarts...is possible if you drive a lot. But this owner is an idiot...and on top of that the dealer should have filled up the tank and oil before it left
If the car was delivered to the owner filled with oil, and it went through enough oil to run the motor dry and sieze up (highly unlikely) in that short amount of time, then there was something wrong with that car. I would believe the dealer did something stupid long before this scenario.
Here's something more likely- the dealer tech was doing high RPM clutch drops or burn-outs, grenaded the tranny causing the car the wheels to lock-up, sliding into a curb. Covering their tracks, they drain the oil to blame it on the owner.
02-18-2005, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by G8rboy
Covering their tracks, they drain the oil to blame it on the owner.
02-18-2005, 07:55 PM
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I like your story better...drain the oil and blame the owner...sounds VERY plausible
Originally Posted by G8rboy
I really, really doubt the owner was at fault, if in fact this story is even remotely true. During my break-in, I went through 1 quart in 2500 miles... so to burn through over 4 quarts (again, the 6 speed capacity is almost 7 quarts) the owner would have to drive well over 10,000 in the first month, and most of that would be high at high RPM. Does that sound realistic? I don't think so.
If the car was delivered to the owner filled with oil, and it went through enough oil to run the motor dry and sieze up (highly unlikely) in that short amount of time, then there was something wrong with that car. I would believe the dealer did something stupid long before this scenario.
Here's something more likely- the dealer tech was doing high RPM clutch drops or burn-outs, grenaded the tranny causing the car the wheels to lock-up, sliding into a curb. Covering their tracks, they drain the oil to blame it on the owner.
If the car was delivered to the owner filled with oil, and it went through enough oil to run the motor dry and sieze up (highly unlikely) in that short amount of time, then there was something wrong with that car. I would believe the dealer did something stupid long before this scenario.
Here's something more likely- the dealer tech was doing high RPM clutch drops or burn-outs, grenaded the tranny causing the car the wheels to lock-up, sliding into a curb. Covering their tracks, they drain the oil to blame it on the owner.
02-18-2005, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by beachdog
Why would they need to cover their tracks? They admiited fault and are replacing the engine.
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