Hercules

WOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Free maintenence for the life of my vehicle, and $500 to spend.

I am not complaining one bit, and was kinda HOPING this happened though the second time around I hope Mazda gets it right on the RX-7.... they need to stay successful in business. Fortunately they caught this problem early and since no ads were runnng on the cars, it's pretty simple to see that they didn't lose much cash (I'd think).

Anyhoo.... thumbs up to Mazda for first, stepping up to the plate and admitting the deficiency, and second giving me $500 and free maintenence.

I'm also happy because those people that RETURN the car will be quickly mentally noted because they are the type of people from the get-go who'd never know how to enjoy the car. So thanks Mazda, for getting rid of them too.

ibfubar2000

its not for the life of the vehicle only for 4 years 50,000 miles which ever comes first.

eccles

I think Herc meant for the life of the vehicle in his hands. He's leasing, if I recall correctly, and presumably doesn't plan on buying it out at the end.

Wing

Hmmm does this apply to leases?? hmm

ibfubar2000

yes it should apply to the lease as well.
though you will prbably loose money if you decide to give up the rx-8.

RX-8 Zoomster

I totally agee! I LOVE my car, and that's with me not even driving it yet.

nk_Rx8

They also might be the people who get their MSRP money back and buy it back much cheaper too.:D

Genom

Yeah, but meanwhile they arent going to be driving the car, and I am :D

I am happy with the final word. it's pretty much what I expected for the situation and sicne my car drives exactly the same no matter what that little number says, am happy with the free addons I am going to be getting with that 500 bucks, as well as never having to lay out a single cent on the car besides my regular payments for the next 4 years.

Makes that cost to own a hell of a lot nicer if ya ask me

Lets see. Cost to own: Gas it up.

Yeah. I'm happy with that.

And like I said, the "free" window tints, fender strakes, ultra white lights, Zaino kit and hopefully air intake system sometime soon is just icing on a very pretty titanium gray cake.

P00Man

word, though i dunno what im gunna buy, i might just use it for a payment...though id really like some zaino...and some fly fishing gear...need a new reel after all..still have around 200 bucks left...wow, this is great!

plus, it really shows mazda actually DOES care, because they are not legally responsible for ANYTHING as the actual hp is within the 5% allowance, this is all out of good faith!

Genom

Actually, I've already bought all that stuff. Except for the intake. So this will go right to my CC bill. So all that stuff I was suffering to pay for is now free!

BillK

That would be a nice thought if the dealers were selling them, but Mazda will take the repurchased 8s and do whatever with them (auction them, sell them to employees at a discount, etc.)

mdx

I for one am going to seriously consider the buyback. Don't get me wrong, I've had 3 rotary's (90 vert, 94 tt, and 04),and love the 8, but I lease a vehicle for work and was only planning to put 5K max on the rx8, so the added incentive for free upkeep is minimal. I'm leaning toward returning and waiting for a FI version as my payment could be put to other good use.

mikeb

isn't the four years or 48,000 included with buying the car

pelucidor

Definitely a WOOOOO HOOOOO here too. I just effectively got $1500 off a car I've already paid for - and I always liked the performance anyway.

Hercules

Not the maintenence...

It's like owning a BMW now :p ... at least as far as upkeep and maintenence is concerned :D

TurboSE

They are still lying. 238 hp is still an "inflated" number. I am glad some of you are happy regardless of the number.

TJRX8

Too bad you had to make such a stupid-*** statement. Maybe some of the "RETURNS" are just thinking ahead more so than you.
If I bring it back I can buy another one later cheaper, newer, no miles, fresh tires, with any updates and fixes taken care of at the factory, new warranty etc. I will also be able to change my options or color (not that I would except maybe to add 6-Disc)and not lose any money but actually make out on the deal.

I can now be a buyer in a buyer's market and have the three local dealers compete for my business. For that matter I will probably be able to buy back my car as a used car and save more than you will on scheduled maintenance in the next 4 years.

There are enough outsider jerks to deal with here without slamming some of our own. Me making a business decision that may be best for me is the same as you buying this car because it is the best for you. If I sell it back it has nothing to do with the HP or not loving the car or knowing how to have fun enjoying the car.
The MPG is my only real complaint. Using premium and with gas prices reaching all time highs the 16 mpg will bankrupt me trying to have fun.

Peace Herc and enjoy your $500 spending spree. Buying a new watch are ya?

boowana

TurboSE:
Before you slam an excellent and "more than fair" offer from Mazda, why don't you get off your *ss and buy one so that your opinion counts. Right now, you're sideline material.

CarEnthusiast

Ok, I'll be the pessimist here...

Other than the 'short' term benefits you owners are going to receive, can you really say that you are happy with what is going on here?

Do you not see the possible adverse affects this scandal Mazda has again done? Do you really think that this is a good thing for the company especially since this is their flagship car?

Or more importantly to the whole rotary revival?

Sure, Mazda stepped up and offered a correction for their mistake. But what trust can you have in a company that makes the same mistake twice?

What if people continue to dyno there car and still get ~180 rwhp? Would Mazda continue to lower their advertised figures yet again just to make owners all giddy?

How will this translate to sales, support, or the production run of the car when there is already controversy to engine/fuel efficiency already in its early introduction.

Im just kind of suprised that owners are happy at Mazda for a mistake they have yet again made. All only because Mazda has offered short term compensation for their mistakes.

But hey, its still "fun" to drive right?


BTW, I agree with TJRX8. That comment by Hercules and the post above mines make it sound like your a bunch of elitist snobs.

boowana

[QUOTE]Originally posted by TJRX8
[B]
If I bring it back I can buy another one later cheaper, newer, no miles, fresh tires, with any updates and fixes taken care of at the factory, new warranty etc. I will also be able to change my options or color (not that I would except maybe to add 6-Disc)and not lose any money but actually make out on the deal.

Yes, yopu will get a new car but... you will not get free Mainenance for the life of the Warranty nor will you get the $500 bucks.

I can now be a buyer in a buyer's market and have the three local dealers compete for my business.

There is no "buyers market" yet and ther won't be for along time. These cars are selling like hot cakes. Just think, since July 11th when the first customer deliveries took place and adding in just the pre-orders that haven't been delivered, three thousand cars ar affected by this proposition form Mazda. that's been in approximately 42 days. Be prepared to wait for a buyers market. your logic is flawed.

For that matter I will probably be able to buy back my car as a used car and save more than you will on scheduled maintenance in the next 4 years.

Only in your dreams...

Skyline Maniac

Why do you have to put people down for thinking about returning their car, the buyers are not the ones who lied!? It's one thing be content with $500 MAZDA CREDIT (sorry, no Zaino or CAI/Exhaust), but it's just wrong to slam others who prefers the buy back. It's not necessary to attempt to bash on other owners to make yourself feel better. 'thans Mazda for getting rid of them?' Please~ get off your soap box alreay. :o

Anyhow, I agree with TurboSE that the 175-180whp dyno number still indicates 238hp is overrated. Also, if you chose the buy back~ that gives the choice to buy whatever you want for $30k. By choosing buy back, you have the option of buying another car, or buy a brand new / used RX-8 at a decent discount. (and I would imagine you'd be able to get more than $1500 off a RX-8 after this fiasco) That's money you can do whatever you want. Remember, if you decide to keep your RX-8 and have to sell it in a year~ they the free maintenance and $500 Mazda credit won't do any good for you. It's all about freedom of choice.

pelucidor

Let me think...

I could return the car and get my money back, then buy a new RX-8 with all the bugs fixed in, say, a year from now for invoice instead of MSRP, and hence save even more than the $1500 Mazda is currently offering. Of course I will have to walk or take public transport everywhere for the next year, or perhaps buy a beater car for that period to travel around in - none of those options are really free...

I know, I could return the car and get my money back, and then immediately buy another new car and haggle hard and maybe get $1000 off MSRP on that new car. Except that they may not have another car with all the items I want coming in soon (what will I do for transport until that car comes in?), and as the car is still selling like crazy maybe I won't get the $1000 off after all (and Mazda is effectively offering me $1500 right now to keep my car)...

Perhaps I should return my car and then try to buy it back immediately as a used car from the dealership for thousands less. Of course they may not be too happy with me for doing that and might make my car a demo vehicle for everyone to thrash for a while before putting it on sale...

Or perhaps I should buy a used car that someone else has returned, but many people here have said before they return their car they will thrash it as hard as they can - surely not good. And do I really want to spend over $25k on a used car? Will I get financing? Can I still lease it? I don't think so...


Or maybe I will be happy to be given free servicing and $500 to keep what is already the best car I have ever owned. Yeah - that sounds about right.

Skyline Maniac

You should have stated "That comment by Hercules and the post above mines make it sound like HE is a elitist snob." Please don't generalize the RX8 enthusiasts here to be on the same level as a few very specific individuals. I agree though, don't put other people down just to make yourself feel more secure about the decision you are making. Either buy back or free maintenance~ the owners win in the end. See, making noise does get things done.

CarEnthusiast

I was actually just referring to Hercules and Boowana. That "your" was for them and not intended for the whole board.

Now if I would of said "you all..."

Sorry for the confusion.

TJRX8

[QUOTE]Originally posted by boowana
[B]Funny how wrong you are but speak with such authority. I visited one of the dealers in my area and could have had my choice of 6 RX-8's at MSRP or below. I also didn't say there was a buyer's market yet, there will be though and I'm willing to bet you on that. I will be able to buy the same car for less money than I originally paid, people are already doing it. All this before Mazda even makes the official announcement.

In my dreams....only time will tell.

BTW Good luck to everyone in whatever choice you make. I won't be looking down at you if you decide to keep or sell back. I love the car and like that I am going to be given this choice.