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BReal-10EC 01-10-2012 11:48 PM

I can't do a burnout.
 
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How do I do a burn out!?!? argh! (without a line lock or water puddle)..
Both rear tires are shot.
Pic for proof.
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I have replacements to install.

Since those tires are not usable to anybody, I thought it would be good fun to learn how to do a proper burn out. But how without a line lock?

(had fun playing with video editing software)

This was a "safe" dead end road not near any residential.


So how do I without damaging car?

comebackqid 01-10-2012 11:52 PM

push clutch in rev to 6500rpms and let go/pop the clutch and bounce the throttle!
why are you trying to do a burn out anyways?

9krpmrx8 01-11-2012 12:07 AM

Must resist, must resist, must resist.

nycgps 01-11-2012 12:09 AM


Originally Posted by comebackqid (Post 4162633)
push clutch in rev to 6500rpms and let go/pop the clutch and bounce the throttle!
why are you trying to do a burn out anyways?

It wont work

Why? Cuz he is a fucking moron



Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4162648)
Must resist, must resist, must resist.

Take a deep breathe, and just ignore this thread. U will live longer. Trust me.

BReal-10EC 01-11-2012 12:32 AM


Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 4162651)
It wont work

Why? Cuz he is a fucking moron

Take a deep breathe, and just ignore this thread. U will live longer. Trust me.

Ok- so maybe I am coming across wrong here.

Either that- or RX8 club has been invaded by douche-bags... idk.:scratchhe

I actually do autocross (SCCA).
I owned an RX7 before this (12A).
I have driven manual transmission vehicles BY CHOICE since I started driving (in the 80s).
I bought my 6 speed 04 RX8 brand new.
This is the end of my 3rd set of tires in 40k miles... I live 1 mile from work, so most of the miles are fun miles.

The current tires are Sumitomo HTR-Z IIIs 235/40/18 (really good tires for the price).

I think the almost slick sticky tires + warm weather + sticky surface (lots of tire rubber there) made my task difficult.

tpg1188 01-11-2012 12:32 AM

your stick right? try turn off the DSC if you have it

BReal-10EC 01-11-2012 12:34 AM


Originally Posted by comebackqid (Post 4162633)
why are you trying to do a burn out anyways?

I've never done it- for the sake of the tires- and just want to learn how.

Junirol 01-11-2012 12:42 AM


nycgps 01-11-2012 12:45 AM


Originally Posted by BReal-10EC (Post 4162661)
Ok- so maybe I am coming across wrong here.

Either that- or RX8 club has been invaded by douche-bags... idk.:scratchhe

or ... morons ?


I actually do autocross (SCCA).
I owned an RX7 before this (12A).
I have driven manual transmission vehicles BY CHOICE since I started driving (in the 80s).
I bought my 6 speed 04 RX8 brand new.
This is the end of my 3rd set of tires in 40k miles... I live 1 mile from work, so most of the miles are fun miles.
my father knows how to drive a stick before I was born. BIG DEAL ?

it doesn't mean shit. really.


The current tires are Sumitomo HTR-Z IIIs 235/40/18 (really good tires for the price).

I think the almost slick sticky tires + warm weather + sticky surface (lots of tire rubber there) made my task difficult.
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jasonrxeight 01-11-2012 12:52 AM


Originally Posted by BReal-10EC (Post 4162663)
I've never done it- for the sake of the tires- and just want to learn how.

throttle to the floor and dump the clutch then left foot brake.:ylsuper:
but seriously, save your clutch by not doing it.

BReal-10EC 01-11-2012 12:55 AM


Originally Posted by jasonrxeight (Post 4162673)
throttle to the floor and dump the clutch then left foot brake.:ylsuper:
but seriously, save your clutch by not doing it.

And that is my concern.
I don't want to use up 50k miles of clutch wear in one burn out (it already seems a bit soft in aggressive acceleration shifts).

And I would tell nycgps to go fuck himself.
But I have seen his kids, and he really need to stop that shit.

Jake33 01-11-2012 01:10 AM

lol...all i gotta say

8 Maniac 01-11-2012 01:23 AM

I love reading a thread title and knowing it will be amusing...

Have you ever done a burnout? Are you actually even breaking traction?

dznutzuk 01-11-2012 01:26 AM

Nice burnout!

monchie 01-11-2012 10:36 PM

Hmmmmmmmm.............this thread is a fail from the beginning.

godesshunter 01-11-2012 11:02 PM

You could do a brake stand but I assume you're not 16 in your dads pickup any more so whats the point?

Rotary-RX8 01-11-2012 11:11 PM

this cars not a mustang buddy ....

1.3_LittersOfFurry 01-12-2012 05:03 AM

This shouldn't be that hard, I'm running the same tires HTRZ-llls and burn outs are no problem what so ever.

BReal-10EC 01-12-2012 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 4163716)
coming from a person that's mentally challenged ? can't search for shit ? :rollingla

oh my butt hurts ---- NOT. :wavey:

Searching returns MANY threads, and only one or two actually about how to do a burn out.
But the "hold dsc down for 7 seconds" thing is probably helpful (found in one thread).
It flashes repeatedly iirc.
I remember something about that from the early dyno issue topics.

And I only responded to you like that because you started out with "he is a fucking moron"... and so I figured that's the only language you understood.

And note I originally planned to video record my burn out (for intervine use).
But that didn't go as planned (obviously), and later watching the video I found my inability rather comical (and why I added the Beck song).
Nobody ever seems to admit they can't do a burn out.
It was not a jab at the car.

BReal-10EC 01-12-2012 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by 1.3_LittersOfFurry (Post 4163751)
This shouldn't be that hard, I'm running the same tires HTRZ-llls and burn outs are no problem what so ever.

Oddly enough- the last "just floor it" launch was actually a high rpm clutch drop (7000 rpm).
But dang if it didn't take off like a factory prepped 1/4 mile test Ferrari.
I would have NEVER guessed these tires would be this sticky with so little tread left.
The original Dunlops and then Kumhos were easy to spin in anything less than 70 degree weather when they still had tread left, let alone when they were down to slicks in the middle.

-- and to add to that, it has been raining for the last few days and these tires still take effort to break loose. I am baffled.

BReal-10EC 01-12-2012 11:37 PM


Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 4164637)
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Hmmmmm there were so many threads about this... U cant find it? What does that mean? It starts with a m and ends with a n and its a 5 letter word ...

Dsc ... Cant do burn out ... Duh. Sad


U need to learn how to search and have some god damn basic understanding of how the car works b4 u try to act like u are cool ...

I'm just a guy that posted a video on the internet of real life mistakes.
Does that make me cool? Nope.
But you have chosen to be a douche-bag more than once in this thread,.
That makes you a douche-bag.
So I am a moron and you are a douche-bag.
Maybe we should start a band?

NotAPreppie 01-13-2012 07:42 AM

How is this thread still open?

alnielsen 01-13-2012 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by NotAPreppie (Post 4164806)
How is this thread still open?

Asking how to do a burnout isn't against the site rules, that's how. If you don't like the question, ignore it and go on to the next thread.

PaPaBear 01-13-2012 08:18 AM

Boy! That train in the background was really clipping along!

Silver_Surfer 01-13-2012 09:44 AM

LOL:lol:, at some of the responces. :rollingla

Atilla 01-13-2012 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by tpg1188 (Post 4162662)
your stick right? try turn off the DSC if you have it


Originally Posted by BReal-10EC (Post 4162663)
I've never done it- for the sake of the tires- and just want to learn how.

Traction is gonna be hard to brake with DSC on...juss sayin' lol


p.s. - put dishwashing soap or windex on the tire tread n' do what others have suggested. Its pretty much full-proof.

If failing continues..find a kid with the ricest car in your area n' let him show you how to do it.

zoom44 01-13-2012 10:43 AM

jeeze guys whats wrong with doing a burnout once in awhile. tire noise and smoke is fun.

btw add a couple pounds to each tire to decrease the contact patch

zoom44 01-13-2012 10:44 AM

if you think burnouts are a waste of time then move along and get out of the thread.

Roidz 01-13-2012 11:26 AM

Some people woke up on the wrong side of the bed, dayum. Like none of us have ever done a burnout before. :Eyecrazy:

dynamho 01-13-2012 12:23 PM

I'm guessing bald tires are harder to break traction due to increased contact area, notwithstanding degradation of the compound over time.

1. OP, disable DSC completely (7+ sec hold) until the slipping car icon, IIRC, blinks. Just clicking DSC only disables stability control and likely keeps traction control on.
2. Rev to 6500+ RPM.
3. Dump the clutch simultaneously giving it full throttle. Burnout should start.
4. Feather your brake with left foot just enough for a brake stand. If you press too hard, you'll kill your burnout.

> MAO < 01-13-2012 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by breal-10ec (Post 4162661)
i actually do autocross (scca).
I owned an rx7 before this (12a).
I have driven manual transmission vehicles by choice since i started driving (in the 80s).



Originally Posted by breal-10ec (Post 4162663)
i've never done it


oh my lol

Roidz 01-13-2012 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4165017)
:lol: But have you ever had to start a thread on a forum in order to figure out how to do it?

:hahano: Touche 9k. Hey, but tgiff! :beer05:

godesshunter 01-13-2012 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by 200.mph (Post 4164971)
nothing. When i want to burn money off my wheels or right before i get new shoes i find it more fun to go to an empty parking lot and do donuts or small drifts

x-2

BReal-10EC 01-14-2012 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by PaPaBear (Post 4164829)
Boy! That train in the background was really clipping along!

Video is 4 x normal speed to make it more entertaining.
I didn't think to mention that because... well.. I thought it was obviously sped up.
Sorry.
(Shrug)

BReal-10EC 01-14-2012 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by 200.mph (Post 4164971)
nothing. when i want to burn money off my wheels or right before i get new shoes i find it more fun to go to an empty parking lot and do donuts or small drifts

But that's easy.
Heck, I could do donuts all day long in my 105 hp 84 Celica GTS.
But it did just have some cheap "sport" all seasons.

1.3_LittersOfFurry 01-14-2012 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by BReal-10EC (Post 4164587)
Oddly enough- the last "just floor it" launch was actually a high rpm clutch drop (7000 rpm).
But dang if it didn't take off like a factory prepped 1/4 mile test Ferrari.
I would have NEVER guessed these tires would be this sticky with so little tread left.
The original Dunlops and then Kumhos were easy to spin in anything less than 70 degree weather when they still had tread left, let alone when they were down to slicks in the middle.

-- and to add to that, it has been raining for the last few days and these tires still take effort to break loose. I am baffled.

Did the clutch slip when you tried?

Also, kinda off topic but, how long did those tires hold up? About XX,xxx miles? The dealer I bought my car from installed mine the day before I took her home. I got about 12kmiles on them and they seem to be holding up better than expected. Although.. I'm not a very aggressive driver... most of the time. I can count on one hand how many burnouts I've done in this car still.

BReal-10EC 01-16-2012 12:25 AM


Originally Posted by 1.3_LittersOfFurry (Post 4166055)
Did the clutch slip when you tried?

Also, kinda off topic but, how long did those tires hold up? About XX,xxx miles? The dealer I bought my car from installed mine the day before I took her home. I got about 12kmiles on them and they seem to be holding up better than expected. Although.. I'm not a very aggressive driver... most of the time. I can count on one hand how many burnouts I've done in this car still.

They have lasted longer than the oem Dunlops and the Kumhos.
but I have also been a bit less aggressiveness with this set- though I have auto-x'd with them a few times.
I won't say mileage since i am very aggressive... but note I needed my 4th set of new tires before 45k miles (I have already replaced two of this four.. found some used ones with almost no miles.. couldn't pass up).

BReal-10EC 03-07-2012 10:18 PM


YaXMaN 03-07-2012 10:45 PM

https://cdn.memegenerator.net/instan...x/10863834.jpg

8 Maniac 03-07-2012 10:47 PM

^lol

angeljoelv 03-07-2012 10:53 PM

put a 3 rota in it.. :) then you can do a 3rd gear burnout..


BReal-10EC 03-07-2012 10:55 PM


Originally Posted by YaXMaN (Post 4207090)

I would love a cookie! gimme gimme gimme!

http://static.fjcdn.com/comments/Gim...a8a5c7d46a.jpg

G_ man 03-07-2012 10:56 PM

Hey you did it good for you, now everybody clap

NavyScubaSteve 09-04-2015 05:34 PM

DSC and TCS Warning
 
I'm new to the rx8 world I've got about 7k miles on my 40th AE and I've tried to learn as much as possible. But some things you gotta go try for yourself. I'm in need of new rear tires and a new clutch so I figured this would be a great time to learn how to drift. I knew I could turn the DSC off and that made things pretty smooth but I still found a lot of difficulty staying "loose" without nearly full throttle. I finally learned how to turn TCS off as well and it opened a whole new world. But WARNING as I said it is a whole new world so if you are learning to drift, DO IT IN A HUGE PARKING LOT. I don't really have much near me and I was learning on the side streets. Luckily there's not much traffic cause the first few tries I ended up spinning out into the other lane having gotten used to all the extra throttle you need with TCS on. So go easy when you first turn it off. You'll realize it takes minimal effort to stay "loose".
-I still dont know why everyone complains about the torque in this car. Even as a brand new drifter and manual driver I find it very easy to get loose. Maybe it's a relativity thing?

reni04 11-21-2015 02:24 PM

You need torq and the rx8 does not develop any real torq until your rev's are high. rx8 don't really do burm outs?.

wcs 11-22-2015 10:24 AM

Why are you guys bumping a 3 year old thread?
And a really bad one at that.

BigCajun 11-22-2015 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by wcs (Post 4730503)
why are you guys bumping a 3 year old thread?
And a really bad one at that.

+1^

RX8Soldier 11-22-2015 10:58 AM

I can't do a burnout.
 

Originally Posted by wcs (Post 4730503)
Why are you guys bumping a 3 year old thread?
And a really bad one at that.

He does that sometimes...

Bmfrotary 11-28-2015 09:31 AM

burnouts
 
I'm just going to say this as a mechanical engineer and world class auto tech don't do it. These cars are designed for handling not tearing up tires. If I want to do a burnout I jump in.the 800 hp twin turbo vette. No clutch dumping or brakes needed it just lights em up. And I don't mean to sound rude but anyone suggesting taking your car to any rpm and dumping the clutch is a moron. The 8 is designed to keep traction not lose it that's part of the fun of the car is hitting the twists

ZiG 11-28-2015 06:51 PM

With the proper technique and car it should look something like this:


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