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HELP! Just bought my RX-8 and it won't budge in the snow!

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Old 01-25-2007, 09:17 AM
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Let me say up front that I am not a veterinarian, nor do I have any professional experience working with animals. None the less, it is my considered opinion that this horse is most definitely dead.
OMG ... that was funny!

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Originally Posted by saturn
You guys are all wrong. To get traction in snow you've got to melt it first. I recommend an 8k clutch dump in reverse. Then without using the clutch slam it into fourth. Make sure to have both suicide doors open (but not the front doors) as this will increase drag and create a vacuum under the car to increase stabilization.
haha, is that how you do it with your eclipse?
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Originally Posted by saturn
You guys are all wrong. To get traction in snow you've got to melt it first. I recommend an 8k clutch dump in reverse. Then without using the clutch slam it into fourth. Make sure to have both suicide doors open (but not the front doors) as this will increase drag and create a vacuum under the car to increase stabilization.
Good point! But what happens when its cold outside and you forgot to bring your shorts? An aluminum hamster recommended: Down-diagonal-forward A to yell “Hadouken!” but Control, Alt, Delete to stop the world in its tracks, for this is the way the Amish did it.

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Originally Posted by shaunv74
Let me rephrase...I do not understand your grammer. I am assuming english is not your first language so I am asking you to try restating your post again so I can figure out what point you were trying to make.
hahaha, since when did posting on internet boards require a phd in english? Maybe I cheated to get my two college degrees, oh well....

If you want to get your points across, you might want to think of something that is actually valid. Don't tell everyone to rely on the DSC simply because you can't drive or you want to use it to cover up for your aggressive driving. I do agree DSC is a very nice option, but it is not necessary. People are not going to die because they don't have it (only idiots do). Don't tell us what to think simply because you want to drive like an idiot or lack the skills to control a car.

Better? You might want to try the winter driving school up in Colorado to experience the difference.
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As I'm sure a few dozen people have already said, it's all about the tires. Just posted a blog entry about this the other day. Way too often people think the car is to blame for poor snow traction. It's because of all those FWD and AWD cars adds, I suspect.

Winter tire companies could do much better advertising. The way some people are concerned about safety, far more of them should have winter tires for the snow.

http://www.truedelta.com/blog/?p=7
I agree, but who do you think has a larger advertising bugdet, the guys selling a $600 set of snow tires, or the guys selling a $35,000 SUV?
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Originally Posted by tmak26b

If you want to get your points across, you might want to think of something that is actually valid. Don't tell everyone to rely on the DSC simply because you can't drive or you want to use it to cover up for your aggressive driving. I do agree DSC is a very nice option, but it is not necessary. People are not going to die because they don't have it (only idiots do). Don't tell us what to think simply because you want to drive like an idiot or lack the skills to control a car.
Um...yeah...that's called putting words in my mouth. That was neither what I said or my point. Maybe you're arguing with someone else about something else. As far as your two degrees and your grammer I'm sure you can speak and write english fine but you sure missed the boat on your last post which is why I asked you to restate it.

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Originally Posted by shaunv74
Um...yeah...that's called putting words in my mouth. That was neither what I said or my point. Maybe you're arguing with someone else about something else. As far as your two degrees and your grammer I'm sure you can speak and write english fine but you sure missed the boat on your last post which is why I asked you to restate it.

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That's because your point wasn't valid. This is an internet forum, I type whatever is in my mind. I am not going to sit here all day and proof read every sentence and line. If you dont understand it, get over it. If your best argument is telling people to type better, you might want to quit. Internet english is my first language, thanks.
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Originally Posted by tmak26b
That's because your point wasn't valid. This is an internet forum, I type whatever is in my mind. I am not going to sit here all day and proof read every sentence and line. If you dont understand it, get over it. If your best argument is telling people to type better, you might want to quit. Internet english is my first language, thanks.

In that case please translate into internet english what you meant when you said this:

"I have gotten in trouble with the DSC on, never had it off. I guess I just drive slow."

Which is a direct quote from your previous post that you still have not answered my question about or convinced anyone else with.
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Originally Posted by shaunv74
In that case please translate into internet english what you meant when you said this:

"I have gotten in trouble with the DSC on, never had it off. I guess I just drive slow."

Which is a direct quote from your previous post that you still have not answered my question about or convinced anyone else with.
Perhaps a little typo, let me clearify for you. I have never had problems with the DSC being off, only on. Maybe I just drive slow.

Better?

You still havent prove why having DSC on is better than save driving. Try going 100mph in a snow storm on the RE040 and see if it will save your ***
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... why would u want to convert to RHD when u live in canada and u can jus buy a JDM S5TII for 5000......and in canada now all u see is shitty RHD cars on teh road......its getting kinda retarded if u ask me hahah......im suprised with u living in vancouver and not seeing lots of RHD cars

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Holy sidetracked people... I'm guessing the guy already got his answer but here's my 2 cents for anyone who made it to the end of this thread...

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RX8Dentist, welcome to RX8 ownership! I'm also from Ontario and this is my 2nd winter with an RX8. It's a sweet car (minus the gas consumption as you are bound to find out). Anyway, I'm not sure if you got winter tires yet, but I picked up the dealer's winter tire combo last year. They used 17" rims which are narrower than the 18" rims and therefore better in deep snow. They actually look pretty sweet (not the plane black Canadian Tire special) plus it saves your nice stock rims from getting killed by salt and the elements. The tires bundled with the package are Toyo Garit HTs which have frickin' walnut shells ground into them (that supposedly act as tiny natural spikes)! One review said you can't get any better without going to studded tires which are illegal here. I figure worst case, if I get stuck at the side of the road maybe I can eat my tires. They work great though. I went from "scared to death in 2" of snow" on the tires it came with it to "better than my old FWD car" which had all seasons. The dealer package was pricey and you can save a chunk going to plane black rims and maybe ordering the tires yourself. I got the kit because I was trapped (being unable to drive on the OEM tires) and couldn't wait to order something else and be without my car. I don't regret it though as the 17" rims look great and the tires are top notch. Plus if you bought an RX8 I'm assuming you want to maintain its "sweet" appeal even in the winter. (admittedly it looks less sweet covered in salt). Whatever you decide, good luck and enjoy!

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I just bought a brand new 2007 rx8-GT. Got it on Saturday, Tried to get it out of my Parking lot tonight (Monday) , and its all over the place, I could barely back it out, and I cant move it forward. I know I need to get snow tires, but is this normal? We have about 2 inches of snow where I live, which is nothing. I'm really worried about my purchase now, lol. Also, as I was getting nowhere in my parking lot, I saw that the damned engine light came on. Please someone tell me everythings going to be ok!
Old 01-27-2007, 07:33 AM
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From Edmunds Long-Term test…

"Those who have to deal with slippery driving conditions will benefit from the RX-8's perfect 50/50 weight balance and available traction/stability control system. Throw a set of Bridgestone Blizzaks on this baby and you should be able to handle most anything winter throws your way."
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Originally Posted by tmak26b
Perhaps a little typo, let me clearify for you. I have never had problems with the DSC being off, only on. Maybe I just drive slow.

Better?

You still havent prove why having DSC on is better than save driving. Try going 100mph in a snow storm on the RE040 and see if it will save your ***
Yes. Thanks. Am i am glad to hear that you have never had problems with the DSC off but that does not mean that we should tell everyone out there to start turning them off regardless of how they drive or what tires they have.

My point was never that the DSC is better than safe driving. My point is that the DSC is an added measure of safety in adverse conditions regardless of how good a driver or what type of tires you have on it and should not be turned off even if you are Mario Andretti with chains on. If you drive well in snow it won't have to intervene, if you get into trouble it will help to correct your mistakes.
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Originally Posted by shaunv74
Yes. Thanks. Am i am glad to hear that you have never had problems with the DSC off but that does not mean that we should tell everyone out there to start turning them off regardless of how they drive or what tires they have.

My point was never that the DSC is better than safe driving. My point is that the DSC is an added measure of safety in adverse conditions regardless of how good a driver or what type of tires you have on it and should not be turned off even if you are Mario Andretti with chains on. If you drive well in snow it won't have to intervene, if you get into trouble it will help to correct your mistakes.
No it doesn't, an experience driver would have trouble controlling the car because DSC overrides what you want to do. You don't ever want the car to cut engine power when you need power to get out of a slide or have the brakes be applied when you countersteer. It is a nice option, but it is not for everyone. So don't tell people how it is a must have. Also DSC can only work if you have tires that grip, it doesn't work when you have the RE040s in two foot of snow!
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I didn't get my snow tires put on my RX-8 until after the second snowfall this winter. When the stock summer tires were on it, I was practically immobile in 1/2" of light fluffy snow and 1-degree grades, it was kind of embarrassing. I actually found the DSC incredibly valuable since even the slightest amount of throttle would cause the back end to want to whip around. Now that the 17" Blizzaks are on it, I've been thrashing the hell out of it during the last few snowfalls here in Michigan, and it's been performing like a champ.

I've been playing around with DSC both on and off, and when it's on I haven't found a way yet to get it out of control. Perhaps there's an unforeseen circumstance out there where I would need the extra fine control for evasive maneuvers , but I haven't come across it yet. However, DSC on = a little boring. So switching it off turns on Fun Mode! There's some nice empty snowy streets around here that have been a blast to drift around, and as long as I'm prepared for the ice, slush, or snow, things have been great.

But when I just want to get around town or there's any other cars nearby I leave it on. The last thing I want when I'm going through a 2-wide left-turn lane is for me to sneeze and tap the gas and have my back end slide out into the guy next to me.
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^^ exactly...it will help you keep from getting too far out of wack. Of course it can't change the laws of physics. If you have no traction no amount of computing power OR driver skill will help. You're a passenger at that point. In adverse weather it's your friend and you should let it watch over you.
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Originally Posted by Endor
I didn't get my snow tires put on my RX-8 until after the second snowfall this winter. When the stock summer tires were on it, I was practically immobile in 1/2" of light fluffy snow and 1-degree grades, it was kind of embarrassing. I actually found the DSC incredibly valuable since even the slightest amount of throttle would cause the back end to want to whip around. Now that the 17" Blizzaks are on it, I've been thrashing the hell out of it during the last few snowfalls here in Michigan, and it's been performing like a champ.

I've been playing around with DSC both on and off, and when it's on I haven't found a way yet to get it out of control. Perhaps there's an unforeseen circumstance out there where I would need the extra fine control for evasive maneuvers , but I haven't come across it yet. However, DSC on = a little boring. So switching it off turns on Fun Mode! There's some nice empty snowy streets around here that have been a blast to drift around, and as long as I'm prepared for the ice, slush, or snow, things have been great.

But when I just want to get around town or there's any other cars nearby I leave it on. The last thing I want when I'm going through a 2-wide left-turn lane is for me to sneeze and tap the gas and have my back end slide out into the guy next to me.
Driver slower and you will be okay, no aids, no problems, plenty safe
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Originally Posted by Endor
I didn't get my snow tires put on my RX-8 until after the second snowfall this winter. When the stock summer tires were on it, I was practically immobile in 1/2" of light fluffy snow and 1-degree grades, it was kind of embarrassing. I actually found the DSC incredibly valuable since even the slightest amount of throttle would cause the back end to want to whip around. Now that the 17" Blizzaks are on it, I've been thrashing the hell out of it during the last few snowfalls here in Michigan, and it's been performing like a champ.

I've been playing around with DSC both on and off, and when it's on I haven't found a way yet to get it out of control. Perhaps there's an unforeseen circumstance out there where I would need the extra fine control for evasive maneuvers , but I haven't come across it yet. However, DSC on = a little boring. So switching it off turns on Fun Mode! There's some nice empty snowy streets around here that have been a blast to drift around, and as long as I'm prepared for the ice, slush, or snow, things have been great.

But when I just want to get around town or there's any other cars nearby I leave it on. The last thing I want when I'm going through a 2-wide left-turn lane is for me to sneeze and tap the gas and have my back end slide out into the guy next to me.
I was wondering how this question was worth nine pages--wouldn't "put some winter tires on the car" about cover it?--but this post is about the most informative I've ever read concerning the RX-8 in the snow. I've personally wondered about the car in the snow, because I've never experienced it. Now I feel like I have. Thanks.

My father just reported that he's starting to get bored with the RX-8 after nearly two years with it. He can afford just about anything, so it says a lot how much he's driven the car. What this means is that next winter I may also have an RX-8 in Michigan.

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