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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 08:53 PM
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I have to honestly say that I am extremely disappointed that Mazda has announced another "Shinka". At this very moment, I wish I could give it back. I thought it would be something a bit more unique. If they're going to make a Shinka every year, they may as well make 10,000.

"First the Fat Boys break up......now this"
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Shinka_518
I have to honestly say that I am extremely disappointed that Mazda has announced another "Shinka". At this very moment, I wish I could give it back. I thought it would be something a bit more unique. If they're going to make a Shinka every year, they may as well make 10,000.

"First the Fat Boys break up......now this"
The new Shinka has a different outside color (Copper Red) and different interior, so your Shinka is still in a limited-run single-year-production color and interior.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 09:06 PM
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Yeah, I know. But for some reason, it's still hard to swallow. I still love the car like nothing else I've ever driven. This just makes my decision to keep the car easier. Next purchase will be a Boxter....or Cayman, if the raises continue at the current rate. LOL!
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 09:07 PM
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I guess they sold a lot of Shinka's, and thought it would be profitable to make some more. Get a few toys for your Shinka to make it 'yours'. If you really want something unique, maybe you'd consider getting a Mazdaspeed 8 on special order maybe?
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 09:11 PM
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well think of it this way, there will be NO MORE Black Cherry Mica Shinka RX-8s to be purchased new off of the dealer lot, so in fact you now have a Shinka with a *dicontinued* color (read *LIMITED*).

feel more special now? lol
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 09:15 PM
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LOL! Hey man...thanx 4 at least trying to make me feel better. I haven't added any modz at all to my ride...Maybe now, I can get a few things to personalize it a little.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 09:21 PM
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I feel special - I have a Lightning Yellow RX-8 ... they don't make those anymore either
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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Now, that's a really nice color!!!
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 09:24 PM
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Not to be harsh, but... big deal! You're over-reacting. Whether Mazda called it an M Edition, Special Edition, or Shinka Edition - what it boils down to is the 2005 Shinka Edition was Mazda North America's special edition for the 2005 model year.

This isn't anything new for Mazda - in the Miata line, for 1994 they came out with the M Edition. Special Montego Blue Mica colour, different wheels, a few extra features, a limited edition. For 1995 - another M Edition, this time in Merlot Mica colour. And so on - from 94 to 97, they made an M Edition, each year in a special unique colour and with unique wheels. For 99, they had the 10th Anniversary Edition. For 2000, it was just known as the SE - still, a unique colour and wheels. 01, 02, each year a new SE. For 2003, they called the SE a Shinsen Edition (ooh, sounds close to "Shinka"! )

Point being, whatever name they gave it (ie Shinka, Shinsen, M Edition, SE, etc) what it really is is the 2005 RX-8 Special Edition for the US. If they come up with a different-spec Shinka Edition for 2006 - it's exactly like the Miata "M Edition"s and later SEs - a new special edition using the same name as the previous year's.

FWIW, in Canada they offered that same 2005 Black Cherry/Beige package, but never called it a Shinka, just a SE!

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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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Maybe they should just stick with SE. I'm funny like that when I spend my money. What can I say?
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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Yeah, just make sure to drive it and enjoy it. I know on the Miata boards they have stories about people that bought the 10th anniversary Miata's as an investment and got hosed as there was not huge apprecation in the cars. Should buy a car to drive and if it happens to appreciate, that's great, but shouldn't and in 99% of the time doesn't happen.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 09:35 PM
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True....which is the best thing about the 8. Like I said previously, it's the best machine I've ever driven. Hands down. I'll forget all about this tomorrow when I start the engine headed to work. LOL!
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 09:36 PM
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Every car appreciates in value. The only question is, how many decades will it take?
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by spieder
Every car appreciates in value. The only question is, how many decades will it take?

Don't you mean depreciates?
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 09:41 PM
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In some ways, I coulre care less about the appreciation (with the 8). It's so much fun to drive.

I just live in this military town and they are around every corner. I think I've seen 2 other Shinkas here.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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You know what speider means...LOL!
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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Okay...I'm cured! I just went to the garage and looked at my 8. I'm good.....at least, until I see one of those copper shinkas on the road.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 09:53 PM
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LOL! That's the way...a little positive reinforcement.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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Don't you mean depreciates?
No, he means appreciates. Most cars begin a X amount, depreciate for 1-2 decades then start to gain value once again. Look at a Corvair for an example, or a Bel Air. In the 70's bel airs were super cheap...they were what Mid-80's caprices are to us now.

As they began to fall off the road, their rarity became higher and values rose.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 09:58 PM
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I knew what he whas trying to say.

I'll most likely be dead of old age before my 8 "appreciates" in value.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 10:27 PM
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My only regret about the new Shinka is that... much though I LOVE my black cherry... boy, that copper color is pretty hot!
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Shinka_518
I have to honestly say that I am extremely disappointed that Mazda has announced another "Shinka". At this very moment, I wish I could give it back. I thought it would be something a bit more unique. If they're going to make a Shinka every year, they may as well make 10,000.
Automobile manufacturers do not make "unique" cars new, at least not for under $35,000. Now if you shell out something north of $100,000 then you are pretty much guaranteed of getting something "unique".

If you want a "classic" or "unique" production car, you need to wait about 20-30 years and then buy it. If you don't believe me, ask the owners of the original British Racing Green Miatas (the first special edition Miata). They manufactured more BRGs than yellow first-gen Miatas.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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dont you think youre over reacting just a tad bit?
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tiggerlee
Don't you mean depreciates?
Nope--Almost every car depreciates over the first decade. Appreciation in price (as a classic) comes later. Speider was right on.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Gord96BRG
Not to be harsh, but... big deal! You're over-reacting. Whether Mazda called it an M Edition, Special Edition, or Shinka Edition - what it boils down to is the 2005 Shinka Edition was Mazda North America's special edition for the 2005 model year.

This isn't anything new for Mazda - in the Miata line, for 1994 they came out with the M Edition. Special Montego Blue Mica colour, different wheels, a few extra features, a limited edition. For 1995 - another M Edition, this time in Merlot Mica colour. And so on - from 94 to 97, they made an M Edition, each year in a special unique colour and with unique wheels. For 99, they had the 10th Anniversary Edition. For 2000, it was just known as the SE - still, a unique colour and wheels. 01, 02, each year a new SE. For 2003, they called the SE a Shinsen Edition (ooh, sounds close to "Shinka"! )

Point being, whatever name they gave it (ie Shinka, Shinsen, M Edition, SE, etc) what it really is is the 2005 RX-8 Special Edition for the US. If they come up with a different-spec Shinka Edition for 2006 - it's exactly like the Miata "M Edition"s and later SEs - a new special edition using the same name as the previous year's.

FWIW, in Canada they offered that same 2005 Black Cherry/Beige package, but never called it a Shinka, just a SE!

Regards,
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Thanks, Gordon. You beat me to it on this point. My wife drives a Miata 2001 SE. We knew at the time that the British Racing Green scheme was "special", but not unique enough to be collectible. At least not for 30 years or so. I take it (from your username) that you own a BRG also??
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