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h0lycrappy 10-10-2004 10:26 PM

Grand Touring Package worth it?
 
6-Speed Manual Grand Touring Package
$3,900
Xenon headlights
DSC with traction control
Premium Bose® Sound System
Auto day/night mirror with Homelink
Moonroof
Leather seats
Faux leather door trim
Power seat - 6 way driver only
Heated seats
Lumbar support
Fog lamps
Heated mirrors




Grand Touring Package cost 3,900 extra, but does it worth it to get it? Tell me
your opinon in your own experience. :D


Cuz if its not worth it, I can use that extra 4g on rims and etc...

310Guy 10-10-2004 10:29 PM

Well I have the GT package on my auto. Looking back, I would have gotten the Touring Package (I think it's everything in the GT minus the leather seats). I'm not too impressed with the leather so I would have liked to have saved the money on them.

ayap888 10-10-2004 10:32 PM

if you drive at night (YEAH) zenons and fogs are great. If you like sounds (YEAH - bose). If you have a nice house ... YEAH (i love the homelink button). If you love to be in control (YEAH - DSC). If you love to see the moon at night (YEAH - moonroof).

h0lycrappy 10-10-2004 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by ayap888
if you drive at night (YEAH) zenons and fogs are great. If you like sounds (YEAH - bose). If you have a nice house ... YEAH (i love the homelink button). If you love to be in control (YEAH - DSC). If you love to see the moon at night (YEAH - moonroof).



ya i know, it's not like those are bad things to get, it just that spending close to 4g..iono if its worth it... :confused:

S2K1 10-10-2004 10:44 PM

I personally would not be happy without the GT package. Everything in it is a luxury in a way. I got this car not to race, but to drive everyday, and with the GT package, I feel my $4K extra investment makes my daily drive worthwhile. Also, i live in Utah, and the heated seats will definately be used.

VooDoo 10-10-2004 10:48 PM

Passed on all of it but the DSC and Xenon/fogs. Hate Bose, don't care for leather, open roof burns my shaved skull, heated seats (not in AR or TX), power seat (why?) are items I can easily live without.

AQA101 10-10-2004 11:05 PM

Xenon, DSC, Sunroof and leather interior are all must-have items for me - so my choice was easy. I also love the black/red interior. The price is very fair if you desire the components imho.

If you don't want two or three of the major components, go without GT. GT also has one backdraw btw, electrical seat plus sunroof takes some headspace.

Emsdad 10-10-2004 11:12 PM

My first 8 was a GT, with no nav....this one is a Touring with Nav...IMHO the new set up is much better. I lost the leather, heated mirrors, and heated seat (all easy enough to give up), and gained the Nav. Got to keep the homelink auto dimming mirror, the bose, the dsc, the xenon, and the moonroof. All for about the same price.

Unless you really want leather, heated seats and mirrors, or you just want to have what others will consider "loaded", go with the touring.

Mikelikes2drive 10-10-2004 11:12 PM

4000 is only like an extra ten dollars a month and totally worth it.

bmcc49er 10-10-2004 11:20 PM

Like the clothe seats, extra headroom minus sunroof, usually like the nonpowered seats because the power ones are too slow but I didn't even check the 8's because the packages are not setup correctly imo. Some of the things I wanted i could only get with things I didn't want and that was my only beef. Personal choice. If you have to have one of the GT's items then you have to get everything that comes with it so it is worth it. If you can do without then of course the extra K's aren't. And looking at it from the perspective of only a few dollars a month is wrong imo also. You sell it you owe more then the extra few dollars a month, you owe thousands more. I personally went with the sport package and only wish I had the Bose vs stock.

G8rboy 10-10-2004 11:20 PM


Originally Posted by Mikelikes2drive
4000 is only like an extra ten dollars a month and totally worth it.

I think so too- I don't regret it at all. The moonroof and leather were musts for me, and for driving in the winter the heated seats, heated mirrors, Xenons and DSC/TCS rock. The Bose when combined with a small sub setup to supplement the bass sounds great too. Since I bought this car to keep for a long time, I figured I would regret skimping on some or all of those things down the road.

h0lycrappy 10-10-2004 11:20 PM

alrighty thx :o

Tony_Montana 10-10-2004 11:40 PM

how is the leather material? Is it good material? Or is that kind of cheap material that makes your back sweat after riding around town in it?

therm8 10-10-2004 11:46 PM

If you can live without leather/heated/power seats, touring is the way to go. Best cloth seats I've seen in any car. Besides those power seats are heavy :p .

G8rboy 10-11-2004 12:06 AM


Originally Posted by Tony_Montana
how is the leather material? Is it good material? Or is that kind of cheap material that makes your back sweat after riding around town in it?

It's nicer quality than the leather in my Miata and Explorer, but not as nice as some high-end cars I've been in (Acura, BMW). I just wish that they put leather on the backs of the front seats instead of the high-tech looking plastic cover.

quack_p 10-11-2004 12:14 AM

I would have loved the Touring or GT Package, but I'm 6'3" and the moonroof reduces the headroom by 1.5 to 2 inches so I got the Sport Package. I'd say 6'1" is probably the maximum height for an RX-8 with moonroof.

h0lycrappy 10-11-2004 12:28 AM


Originally Posted by quack_p
I would have loved the Touring or GT Package, but I'm 6'3" and the moonroof reduces the headroom by 1.5 to 2 inches so I got the Sport Package. I'd say 6'1" is probably the maximum height for an RX-8 with moonroof.


lol :)

Hellbreed 10-11-2004 01:32 AM


Originally Posted by quack_p
I would have loved the Touring or GT Package, but I'm 6'3" and the moonroof reduces the headroom by 1.5 to 2 inches so I got the Sport Package. I'd say 6'1" is probably the maximum height for an RX-8 with moonroof.


I have the GT package and I fit fine being 6'2", but I do tend lean my seat back more then some I guess. Although when my hair is a bit spiked I can feel it touching the roof, leaving the moonroof slide open takes care of that. The GT package was worth it considering the price I think. But like G8rboy said, I purchased this car to keep for quite a while, didn't want to regret not getting it.

shaolin 10-11-2004 01:39 AM

Well I look at it like this. All I wanted from this car was what it was really meant for. So I got the Sport Package. All the essentials. DSC, TCS for the rain. Xenon headlights and foglights. 6 speed manual with LSD, and 18" wheels.

I drive a sports car not a luxury car. I don't need leather, home link, nav, or a moonroof. The moon roof adds too much weight and disturbs the lines of the roof anyways.

dodo 10-11-2004 01:55 AM

For me, the GT is a must. I wanted sunroof (coming from a miata). Luckily, I'm not tall enough to bang my head against the top. The electric seats has one advantage over manual seats: you can adjust them as you drive until you get to a confortable position. I can never find a comfortable position until I *start* driving. I sometimes put my baby in a reat facing baby seat behind me, so I end up adjusting my seat all the time.
The Xenons are awesome! The auto dimming rear mirrors are wonderful in the land of SUVs. The leather is better than the leather in the Acura MDX but is not as good as the one in the RX330. The only thing I don't seem to have a use for are the heated seats. I think I got a damn good deal on a luxury car :-)

thew 10-11-2004 02:06 AM

i love my GT...

DreRX8 10-11-2004 08:13 AM

It depends on if you value sunroof, bose, homelink mirror, heated seats. I wouldn't get the GT package if you are only doing so for the leather, get the touring or sport package and then put in aftermarket leather--it is of better quality anyway and cost about $1200-$1400. That's what I did--I am not a fan of Bose sound systems-mainly because when the components go out you have a debacle on your hands. I also don't care about heated or powered seats. The GT leather is not as supple as aftermarket leather-and the aftermarket leather does not have the plastic seat backs (plus or minus for some).

Rob Tomlin 10-11-2004 09:16 AM

It really depends on how much you prefer leather seats over cloth. I got it and love it!

mysql101 10-11-2004 09:19 AM

I got GT for the leather seats. I didn't want the moonroof.

No regrets here.

jtimbck2 10-11-2004 10:23 AM

If you want Xenon headlights, DSC with traction control, Premium Bose® Sound System, Auto day/night mirror with Homelink, Moonroof, Leather seats, Faux leather door trim, Power seat - 6 way driver only, Heated seats, Lumbar support, Fog lamps, & Heated mirrors, then it's worth it ;)

Seriously, I think $3900 is a comparative bargain for what you get. The only option in the GT package that I didn't particluarly car one way or another for is the heated mirrors; I wanted everything else. Though in retrospect I don't think the Bose system is all that great -- AudioPilot is a big steaming pile of crap.

h0lycrappy 10-11-2004 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by DreRX8
It depends on if you value sunroof, bose, homelink mirror, heated seats. I wouldn't get the GT package if you are only doing so for the leather, get the touring or sport package and then put in aftermarket leather--it is of better quality anyway and cost about $1200-$1400. That's what I did--I am not a fan of Bose sound systems-mainly because when the components go out you have a debacle on your hands. I also don't care about heated or powered seats. The GT leather is not as supple as aftermarket leather-and the aftermarket leather does not have the plastic seat backs (plus or minus for some).


oh i see

HeelnToe 10-11-2004 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by JasonHamilton
I got GT for the leather seats..

I got the Touring for the cloth seats, lol. Grippier on my butt ;)

I used to slide all over the place in the leather seats of my old Eclipse, though I'm guessing that the 8's leather is of a much higher quality.

I couldn't fit in the power (leather) seats anyways. They must sit higher. Kept banging my head into the roof framing above the door. Ouch.

beachdog 10-11-2004 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by h0lycrappy
6-Speed Manual Grand Touring Package
$3,900
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Grand Touring Package cost 3,900 extra, but does it worth it to get it? Tell me
your opinon in your own experience. :D

If the car you are looking at shows the Grand Touring Package at $3,900 MSRP, then you are looking at a car with a pre-Sept 2003 build date. The GT package went to $4,000 MSRP in September 2003.

You are looking at a car that has been sitting for a long time. Check the build date. The dealer should be ready to give you a great price.

foxman 10-11-2004 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by h0lycrappy
6-Speed Manual Grand Touring Package
$3,900 Grand Touring Package cost 3,900 extra, but does it worth it to get it? Tell me your opinon in your own experience. :D

Xenon headlights

>Much brighter, cooler look, +

DSC with traction control

>If you drive hard, this will come into play, makes the car more forgiving, +/-

Premium Bose® Sound System

>Better than base, not as good as what you could do on your own, +

Auto day/night mirror with Homelink

>works as advertised, my eyes are sensitive to light, worth it. +

Moonroof

>disappointing compared to what others are doing with moon/sunroofs these days, opening is just way too small, does not add too much road noise compared to others i have had, -

Leather seats

>nice, worth it, +

Faux leather door trim

>that's FAUX?? +/-

Power seat - 6 way driver only

>wish it was 8 or 10 way, needs more adjustment potential, worth compared to the 2 way though, +

Heated seats

>cup holders generate more heat that these do, needs more heat, -

Lumbar support

>best i have seen compared to other vehicles, +

Fog lamps

>nice, do the fog light mod and gain total control over them, +

Heated mirrors

>works as advertised, +

Overall, mostly worth it. I could do without a couple of them.

Nubo 10-11-2004 12:10 PM

They should really call it the "4 Grand Touring Package" ;)

For me, the best value is the Sport package. Add aftermarket leather and you're still saving bucks. Most agree the Bose is no better than, and perhaps worse than the base audio. The moonroof removes 1 1/2 inches of headroom. So those are 2 things I really didn't want at all. The other foo-foo stuff (heated seats and mirrors, homelink) isn't worth the extra money. Having the seat remember its position would be nice but that's the only piece of "Grand Touring" that I'd care to have, and in itself not worth the extra bucks.

Who said $4000.00 is "only 10 bucks a month"? Someone take out a 20-year loan? :p

jtm0311 10-11-2004 12:11 PM

Trust me, get the GT package. Mine has every option except for the body skirts and fron air dam. 4k sound high but when tacken in context over the life of the car loan you are not talking that much higher payments. Plus it will help with the resale value. The only oprtion that I don't care for is the heated seats but thats probably cause I'm in FL. Also I love the nav system. :cool:

ivyrose 10-11-2004 12:16 PM

Most definitely ... at least for me. I got everything I wanted (minus Nav, I wouldn't use) and use it on a daily basis. I love the feeling leather under me and the moonroof open on my way to work (wake me up). The sound system is great and I have a feeling the heated seats and the xeon lights will help out a lot when winter rolls around. Sure, it's a tad bit luxurious so it's certainly not a bargain ... but what luxury items ever are? If you're having doubts now though, don't get it ... you'll just end up with buyer's remorse later.

DreRX8 10-11-2004 12:30 PM

here are pics of my sport package with aftermarket leather--the one drawback is that you don't have the two-tone steering wheel. https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-interior-audio-electronics-24/pics-aftermarket-leather-done-40480/

Emsdad 10-11-2004 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by ivyrose
Most definitely ... at least for me. I got everything I wanted (minus Nav, I wouldn't use) and use it on a daily basis. I love the feeling leather under me and the moonroof open on my way to work (wake me up). The sound system is great and I have a feeling the heated seats and the xeon lights will help out a lot when winter rolls around. Sure, it's a tad bit luxurious so it's certainly not a bargain ... but what luxury items ever are? If you're having doubts now though, don't get it ... you'll just end up with buyer's remorse later.


That's exactly how I felt when I got my first 8. Then I saw the Nav and I regretted not getting it. So this time I traded the leather and the heated components for the Nav.

The leather is not that great, after just 2 months with the first car, the leather was already starting to get crease marks...We've had our BMW for three months now, and the leather in that car looks brand new still. Someone else said that the heated seats don't generate much heat, and that was my experience as well. The only other thing you give up by chosing touring instead of GT is the heated mirrors...and that I would like to have on some mornings, but the Nav more than makes up for it!

StewC625 10-11-2004 12:42 PM

First of all, understand that the $3900 isn't INCREMENTAL OVER the Touring package or the Sports package, but includes the Touring and Sports package stuff. The real delta in price is more like $1400 (I'm sure someone will post the real difference).

The last four cars I've had have had leather, heated seats, xenons, moonroof, homelink, etc. Woudn't buy it without ...

yz007 10-11-2004 12:45 PM

You CAN DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)
I have the GT package and love it, Just added xm radio, some tint, and a couple of 10's to the stock bose, its sounds Awsome! The only thing i would have skipped is the Appearance package, I would have taken the money toward a mazdaspeed body kit package, but Im very happy with the car, my leather still looks great, feels great, gotta love the mirror, controls built in and my V1 sits on top of it. The Xenons are awsome, I definitly recommend it, Especially if its your daily driver like mine. the heated seats are defn. nice in the winter :)

take care

mitchfried 10-11-2004 01:02 PM

Just the Sport Package for me. In Central Florida, leather's too hot and moonroof's a waste of headroom. Heated seats from the sun! Wings, spoilers, aeros add weight and detract from the original lines. So I'm cheaper, lighter and cooler. More money for mods!!

mysql101 10-11-2004 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by mitchfried
Just the Sport Package for me. In Central Florida, leather's too hot and moonroof's a waste of headroom. Heated seats from the sun! Wings, spoilers, aeros add weight and detract from the original lines. So I'm cheaper, lighter and cooler. More money for mods!!

Just so you know, the spoiler and aeros are not part of the GT package.

I'm in Tampa, the leather has been great. Maybe because my AC has such cold air, my windows are tinted, and I use a sun shade.

shelleys_man_06 10-11-2004 01:20 PM

I almost bought a GT, but I stuck with a Base model. It has all the basic stuff. I wanted the lightest RX-8 I could find.

Tayninh 10-11-2004 02:02 PM

Its nice to have the GT but the price and then when you throw in the appearance pack and then one gets sticker shock. For me it gave me more room to negotiate the price down. For some reason the dealers can move lower on the price with optioned cars rather than the base model. By the way the base model is a nice car too so not at all saying its of lower value. The options are nice stuff to have although I could do without the moon roof. I like the moonless look as it shows off that curve on the top more so than with the moon roof. I read someone on here bought the cloth seats and had a shop do them in leather. The pics looked just like the stock leather option. Wonder if it was cheaper that way? The DSC is very handy and is one of the best options as well as the fogs and headlights. Oh yes, I play the guitar a ton and so I appreciate a good system so the Bose is a good system. Probably could have did better from somewhere else then you have to worry about the install being done properly.

shaolin 10-11-2004 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by shelleys_man_06
I almost bought a GT, but I stuck with a Base model. It has all the basic stuff. I wanted the lightest RX-8 I could find.

word.

gt1 10-11-2004 02:39 PM

I really like the GT option; I live in Tampa and in Winter I will be using the heated seats!
The leather isn't too hot even without tinted windows (it is on my list, but right now GPS is flickering so I may take the car in for a checkup *before* I tint)

Charles Stratton 10-11-2004 03:03 PM

A draw back for the GT package is the reduced head room from the sun roof. If you are 6'' or taller it might be an issue.
Leather can be intalled aftermarket. Quality kits are just as good (if no t better) than stock leather.

Vertigo-1 10-11-2004 03:10 PM

I got the Touring package on mine. Ideally wanted just the Sports package, as I'm 5' 9" and my hair does brush into the roof sometimes. I thought I'd never use the moonroof, but as it turns out, I end up using it quite a bit.

I find the autodimming mirror very annoying...I always just turn it off when I start the car at night. It dims even on street lights, and the mirror just gets so dark that I can't see beans behind me. I use that mirror as part of my check before switching lanes, so a big no no for it to be dark.

DreRX8 10-11-2004 03:32 PM

The aftermarket leather route is about$1200-$1400 installed--it is of better quality than factory leather as well.

mysql101 10-11-2004 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by DreRX8
The aftermarket leather route is about$1200-$1400 installed--it is of better quality than factory leather as well.

I keep hearing people say aftermarket leather is better, but do you know who makes the OEM leather? It's made by Pasubio. It's Itailian leather.


Quality and high technology made in Italy for the insides of the sport Mazda RX-8, that has already driven crazy all the visitors of the International Show Rooms and early she will show what she can do with her 250CV also on the European roads.

For a car with an excellent design and with very high performances, the Japanese Car firm wanted to offer very accurate insides, so it chosen the elegance and the comfort of selected leather of high quality from tannery Pasubio.

Mazda RX-8 is as a matter of fact the last acquisition of Pasubio, who can count among its customers the most known international firms, starting from Ferrari and the entire range Jaguar, from the X-type to the last flagship XJ.

The new Mazda RX-8 and “Jaguar Poker” reinforce the position of Leather Pasubio, and we hereby would like to mark out that within the italian customers of the firm there are also Saab, Ferrari, Alfa Romeo, Lancia, Fiat, Ford, GM, PSA and Pininfarina.

Quality surely isn’t an opinion ad it is worth to remind that Tannery Pasubio S.p.a was one of the first Italian firms of the field to have certificate ISOTS16949 (standard quality for motoring) to grant the firm’s total quality, furthermore it had already certificate Uni En Iso 9002.

http://www.infomotori.com/a_332_IT_2451_1.html
Not to mention the GT seats have partial plastic backing, which makes them more solid - the rotary accent in the head rest doesn't move around when you push it.

canaryrx8 10-11-2004 05:55 PM

Got the GT, love it, totally glad as it will probably help resell if that time ever comes

drsinfla 10-11-2004 06:00 PM

aftermarket leather
 
I got aftermarket leather in a Toyota highlander for my wife... cost me $1000, but saved me about 6 grand because I didn't need to get the limited version as a result. Wife had to have leather.

I had a lot of fears about it, but it turned out to be a good idea. Just make sure if you do it through the dealership, that you ask them if they have done it before, and if the customers were happy with it.

I do like the two tone leather, so mine will be the GT.

valpac 10-11-2004 06:01 PM

Got the GT pkg. No regrets. The car is the most beautiful vehicle on the road (biased), make her pretty on the inside too. I think cloth seats are too "plain Jane". Red and black pops.

mysql101 10-11-2004 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by drsinfla
Just make sure if you do it through the dealership, that you ask them if they have done it before, and if the customers were happy with it.

I would recommend not going through the dealership. Your dealer doesn't do any of the work, they just hand it over to 3rd party to do the install, and increasing the price tag.

Before you buy, make sure you find out who they hand the work off to. They're a lot more likely to talk before you sign on the dotted line.


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