gotta lemon?
 

about 2 months ago my engine flooded at 10,000 miles.. they fixed the prob, also upgraded the starter, battery, sparkplugs, and flashed the ECU. a while later, the car was driving with hesitation at full throttle. took it in, they apparently upgraded the spark plugs again. then the check engine light came on.. took it in, they changed the sparkplugs, telling me they misfired. and 1 more time again, same situation.. and today AGAIN. is it time to call my car a lemon? any help is welcome, thanks

Does "they" = Mazda dealer? If so, and probably even if not, get a second opinion. Whoever "they" are, after the first time w/the same problem it warrants more attention than a dumbass mechanic changing the plugs. Sounds like a case of:
a. Full blown incompetence
b. Full blown lazyiness
c. Full blown stupidity
d. All of the above

Definitely take it to a different dealer and see what they think is wrong with it.

sounds like your dealer is the lemon

They need to check the cat, especially since it flooded. Others who have had the same issues turned out to be bad/clogged cat...

check the fuel pressure/pump and wiring harness for the pump.

It took them 2 engines to figure out my fuel pump wiring harness was bad.......even though I asked them to check the fuel pressure when I took it in THE VERY FIRST TIME!

yes, they=mazda dealer. .. . i called them, the mazda engineering team is apparently checking out the problem. its starting to piss me off, i work about 50 hrs a week, i dont have time for this type of bullshiiiiit. i rather they lemon the car, and i get something else, perhaps a 350z :)

sounds like you made a wrong choice to begin with

what was the fault code stored?

No shit. He should have known his car would have had 6 spark plug replacements in 15k.. :Freak_ani

also should have known NOT to trust dealership/service a-holes; and certainly should have figured it out before 4th time w/ same problem. Enjoy the Z.

picking up the bitch 2morow.. ill let you guys know what happens

Hope you did your homework on the z. I wanted one too until I found out Nissan can't get the front end alignment figured out and they eat a set of tires about every 6K miles or so.

Honestly, do look at some of that on some z threads. Big probs with tires, clutches and such on some of those as well.

legally you can only call your car a lemon if the same problem has had to be fixed at least 3 times. Under california law they have to buy the car back from you if you want to get rid of it.

The the leading spark plugs have been revised 3 times already. The current spark plug is the NGK RE7CL for the leading plugs. Check to make sure that is which one is being used.

The original spark plug was the RE7AL which had fouling issues in colder climates which lead to easy flooding when cold. Toss in that many people didn't know you never ever ever give gas/throttle to a rotary motor when starting cold, and many people are having cold start flooding issues.

labutler- the feathering problem existed on the 2003 and 2004 models. 2004.5 and up didnt have the problem. the 03 and 04 were recalled, and nissan gave it a proper allignment and a new set of tires for free - problem solved. . get the Z, you wont regret it

i want an 06- 300hp rev-up engine, new bi xenon headlights, LED tailights, and some other goodies. car looks sexy, definitely better than my rx8



icemark- i dont know about the spark plugs.. and really dont care, i hope the car mal functions again so i can get rid of it..



daisuke- problem did indeed presist 3 times.. i picked it up today and they said if it happens AGAIN , then they will take it back.. so i guess the 4th time.. eh

got the car back. its fine ... no problems ne more.. they said if it happens one more time, theyll take my car back (lemon)

ok the air conditioning doesnt work.. when you put it on cold, it blows hot.. when you put it on hot, it blows cold.. what gives??? why would they even mess with the unit.. :mad: :spank:

You are really not a true car enthusiast apparently.

AC changing and car miss firing. Why don’t they scan that ECU? I would just ask them to put a new ECU in this point because they love when you bitch to them.

Dude, you need to check another dealer.

shit, that's mess up, I will bring it to other dealer to check the problem. Sometimes one dealer don't have the knowledge to fix rotary.

This is a car company standing behind their product, Mazda could learn a lot from them. Instead Mazda blames gas mileage and power issues on the owners instead of standing up and taking responsibility. I am really getting a bad taste in my mouth when it comes to Mazda. If they sell the car fix it when it’s broke and resolves the problem instead of telling the users they are doing something wrong.


MAZDA SUCKS!!!!!

Then go drive a fucking Honda!

This point you make, it's valiant :bowdown:

they did.. and they even brough the QUOTE "mazda engineering team" QUOTE to figure out whats wrong

and who are you to be saying im not a true enthusiast? no one.. thank you.