Gas prices and the RX8
05-01-2008, 06:57 PM
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05-01-2008, 07:14 PM
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When I bought my 8 new in February of '04, my first fill up was at $1.54 a gallon. I just found that receipt in with my documents I got when I first bought the car. My how things have changed.
05-01-2008, 10:15 PM
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Nothing would go extinct by drilliing in anwar. We would only be drilling in a very small part that was originally set aside for drilling. And as for the argument that it will take ten years to see any benifit we would already be receiving the benefits if Clinton had not vetoed it when he was in office.
05-01-2008, 10:25 PM
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I just bought a cheap $2100 97 Nissan Sentra GXE 5M that gets me 30MPG in town and highway trips high 30's to low 40's. At current gas prices, I calculate it'll pay itself off in less than about 1.5 years.
My insurance went down on my 8 since I drive less miles on it too. But I sure miss driving my 8. Beam axle for the win!
My insurance went down on my 8 since I drive less miles on it too. But I sure miss driving my 8. Beam axle for the win!
05-02-2008, 12:25 AM
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It's not an issue for me. Yet.
My 8 is a weekend, "fun" car, a recreational vehicle only. I think I've commuted in it maybe four or five times only in the last year. And I garage it for 3 or 4 months during winter. My DD is much better on gas, and I'm thinking of something really frugal for a new DD soon.
Gas would have to get to the point where a tankful for the 8 was running upwards of $120, before it would put a noticeable dent in my use of the car. I'm not wealthy, but my home is paid-for so I can afford to take gas money out of the recreational budget.
My 8 is a weekend, "fun" car, a recreational vehicle only. I think I've commuted in it maybe four or five times only in the last year. And I garage it for 3 or 4 months during winter. My DD is much better on gas, and I'm thinking of something really frugal for a new DD soon.
Gas would have to get to the point where a tankful for the 8 was running upwards of $120, before it would put a noticeable dent in my use of the car. I'm not wealthy, but my home is paid-for so I can afford to take gas money out of the recreational budget.
05-02-2008, 12:49 AM
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Well, if it's any help, My S2000 averages 25mpg combined city/highway, and I get 28-29mpg pure highway cruising at 70-75mph, and did get 31mpg on a long road trip to NC last year straight highway. Granted when use it spiritedly on weekends and use Vtec it guzzles, but I've been using it as a work car the past month since winter is over, and it's noticably better then my Speed 6 as well. The Speed 6 is gonna be sitting for a while now. This is just average crusing to work driving. It's rated at 20 mpg city, 26mpg highway, but I simply get better then that, and it's been very consistent. Perhaps the Miata gets better then the ratings as well.
In comparison to my former 04 RX8, I got about 18mpg on same route and style driving 50-50 city/highway, and about 22mpg pure highway. Not night and day, like jumping in a Civic or anything, but the savings in $$ has been felt the past 2 years, and you don't have to sacrifice performance, in fact you gain some.
As for price, it's become the biggest discounted honda in history, being that the car has simply been out too long without a major re-design, and has overstayed it's welcome. Leftover 07s still exist at certain dealerships going for $27k brand new. I'd be lucky if I could get 23k for my 06 if I needed to sell it. Just my .02.
Don't flame me people.
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05-02-2008, 12:50 AM
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Let's try this question: How high will the speed of vehicles go until the government says enough? Let's mandate 65 mph governors on all vehicles!
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05-02-2008, 01:14 AM
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Bam, the oil companies make 9 cents on a gallon of gas. That is after they:
Find the oil in the ground...
Drill into the ground...
Pump the oil out of the ground...
Ship the oil to a refinery...
Refine the oil into many different products, including gasoline...
AND BRING IT TO YOUR STREET CORNER!!!!!
The government takes 60 cents on that same gallon of gas. What do they do???
THe point is, if you look to the gov't to limit the freedom of the oil companies to make a meager 9 cent profit on a gallon of gas, then don't complain when others (driving slower cars) seek to use the government to limit your freedom to drive. The sword cuts two ways!!!
Find the oil in the ground...
Drill into the ground...
Pump the oil out of the ground...
Ship the oil to a refinery...
Refine the oil into many different products, including gasoline...
AND BRING IT TO YOUR STREET CORNER!!!!!
The government takes 60 cents on that same gallon of gas. What do they do???
THe point is, if you look to the gov't to limit the freedom of the oil companies to make a meager 9 cent profit on a gallon of gas, then don't complain when others (driving slower cars) seek to use the government to limit your freedom to drive. The sword cuts two ways!!!
05-02-2008, 06:14 AM
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What a racket government is.
Bam, the oil companies make 9 cents on a gallon of gas. That is after they:
Find the oil in the ground...
Drill into the ground...
Pump the oil out of the ground...
Ship the oil to a refinery...
Refine the oil into many different products, including gasoline...
AND BRING IT TO YOUR STREET CORNER!!!!!
The government takes 60 cents on that same gallon of gas. What do they do???
THe point is, if you look to the gov't to limit the freedom of the oil companies to make a meager 9 cent profit on a gallon of gas, then don't complain when others (driving slower cars) seek to use the government to limit your freedom to drive. The sword cuts two ways!!!
Find the oil in the ground...
Drill into the ground...
Pump the oil out of the ground...
Ship the oil to a refinery...
Refine the oil into many different products, including gasoline...
AND BRING IT TO YOUR STREET CORNER!!!!!
The government takes 60 cents on that same gallon of gas. What do they do???
THe point is, if you look to the gov't to limit the freedom of the oil companies to make a meager 9 cent profit on a gallon of gas, then don't complain when others (driving slower cars) seek to use the government to limit your freedom to drive. The sword cuts two ways!!!
05-02-2008, 09:44 AM
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From my stand point $3 and $4/gallon of gas is worth bitching about but in the end no big deal, I enjoy my car. Gas is costing me $290/month. Every dollar more adds $75/month. More than likely it will take another couple of years to hit $5 (hopefully a lot longer than that) by then I’ll be looking for a new car anyway. What sucks is I was looking for something a good bit more powerful and there are several nice cars coming out or being released now that would be affordable by then.
Like the housing market I’m hoping the gas bubble (pun intended) bursts before long and we see a 20-30% correction on fuel prices. If I didn’t have to be a responsible parent (wife’s choice of words) I’d get a 250 Ninja for that 60mpg and fun too.
Just for comparison sakes I looked at a Civic Hybrid and at $5/gal it would cost me $210 less per month. Not that I would but seeing as I’d only finance $15,000 on a 5yr loan (again I’d do shorter) would come out to $285/month – the $210 in savings and $75/month car payment. At 3yrs it would only be $240 or so. Maybe bank another $150/month in an ING savings account and buy a used Cayman or Z4 in 3-4 years….
Like the housing market I’m hoping the gas bubble (pun intended) bursts before long and we see a 20-30% correction on fuel prices. If I didn’t have to be a responsible parent (wife’s choice of words) I’d get a 250 Ninja for that 60mpg and fun too.
Just for comparison sakes I looked at a Civic Hybrid and at $5/gal it would cost me $210 less per month. Not that I would but seeing as I’d only finance $15,000 on a 5yr loan (again I’d do shorter) would come out to $285/month – the $210 in savings and $75/month car payment. At 3yrs it would only be $240 or so. Maybe bank another $150/month in an ING savings account and buy a used Cayman or Z4 in 3-4 years….
05-02-2008, 10:20 AM
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I put about 20k miles annually as a DD on the 8 conservatively averaging about 18mpg, still affordable for me at $4-5 per gallon but I am cutting back the mileage now. Just bought a new battery for the motorcycle for the good weather commute and will be using the wife's 96 Miata a bit more (it has 60K miles) to get closer to 24-25 mpg for my driving. Also just ditched the eleven year old SUV (18 mpg) in favor of a small crossover AWD that will improve the mileage a little bit.
We have to adjust because prices will not be going down (much if at all). It is supply and demand and there are other countries competing for the available oil. Facing the fact that we have been using so much of the resource that we have to change our practices and maybe even lifestyles. Technology can help and alternative fuels can help but until then we have to adjust. Example, I choose where I live and where I work. Within reason, I refuse to bitch about my commute. We may have some constraints (we can't all move closer to work or change jobs) the alternatives are better mileage vehicles, pooling or public trans and more efficient use by trip planning for errands, etc.
We have to adjust because prices will not be going down (much if at all). It is supply and demand and there are other countries competing for the available oil. Facing the fact that we have been using so much of the resource that we have to change our practices and maybe even lifestyles. Technology can help and alternative fuels can help but until then we have to adjust. Example, I choose where I live and where I work. Within reason, I refuse to bitch about my commute. We may have some constraints (we can't all move closer to work or change jobs) the alternatives are better mileage vehicles, pooling or public trans and more efficient use by trip planning for errands, etc.
05-02-2008, 10:36 AM
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Within reason, I refuse to bitch about my commute.
We all knew the 8's gas mileage when we bought ours. We also knew what these cars cost up front, and knew that you could buy something that would do the job (i.e., get you to work and other places) for half the price.
In the next few years we're likely to see some significant changes in auto technology and fuels. I suspect the next generation will be saddled with massive toxic waste from worn out hybrid vehicle batteries, and genocidal-level starvation in third world countries.
Ken
05-02-2008, 11:39 AM
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The oil companies are making a killing right now and the whole they only get 9 cents a gallon sure but I don't feel bad for them...
Shell had some reps come in to one of our engineering classes and the lady had no concept of what to say and what not to say. She was talking about how they anticipated a project to take some 5 years and 10 million dollars but now its like 8 years and twice the cost and her response to the questions about what the company is doing was, "With the price of oil now we can afford to have this happen" and then she proceeded to say "We just ship the work overseas to cut down on the production cost"
So if the 9 cents they get is all, then they deserve even less.
But I will hold on to the end with my 8.
Shell had some reps come in to one of our engineering classes and the lady had no concept of what to say and what not to say. She was talking about how they anticipated a project to take some 5 years and 10 million dollars but now its like 8 years and twice the cost and her response to the questions about what the company is doing was, "With the price of oil now we can afford to have this happen" and then she proceeded to say "We just ship the work overseas to cut down on the production cost"
So if the 9 cents they get is all, then they deserve even less.
But I will hold on to the end with my 8.