Fc - Fd?
06-30-2006, 07:59 AM
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Fc - Fd?
I'm a noob and own a Mazda 3 but have been reading the RX-8 forums for over a year now. I love the 8, wish I could afford one 
Damn gas/insurance! Anyway since I'm a noob please dont kill me but what does FC and FD stand for. Or along with any other rotary related stuff. I finally learned the story behind Enfi <spelling? 
Damn gas/insurance! Anyway since I'm a noob please dont kill me but what does FC and FD stand for. Or along with any other rotary related stuff. I finally learned the story behind Enfi <spelling?
06-30-2006, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Redshift
Well, nobody calls it an FE, but it is.
Check the VIN plate on your car....
Check the VIN plate on your car....
so technically, the rx8 is an SE, not FE.
06-30-2006, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Glyphon
that's just part of the vin number. the chassis code is SE3P. On the RX-7 the chassic code just happened to match the chassis code, which it doesn't on the rx8. and i'm not positive, but i don't think that the FE designation is used in the vin in all markets.
so technically, the rx8 is an SE, not FE.
so technically, the rx8 is an SE, not FE.
That's what I get for trying to give a quick and simple answer on about 3 hours of sleep per night for the last week...
06-30-2006, 10:00 AM
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On the RX-7 the chassic code just happened to match the chassis code, which it doesn't on the rx8.
I think Mazda is just f'ing with people.
What do the 4th and 5th digits represent in 7's and 8's, anyway?
06-30-2006, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Redshift
Actually, I do believe you are right. Although, I thought FE was in the VIN in all markets.
That's what I get for trying to give a quick and simple answer on about 3 hours of sleep per night for the last week...
That's what I get for trying to give a quick and simple answer on about 3 hours of sleep per night for the last week...
Originally Posted by Yuhki
BTW. Japanese VIN number header is SE3P.
Originally Posted by Yuhki
The vin number format seems different between Japan and other countries.
Our vin number in Japan is 10 characters, on the other hand, all the pepople on that list have 17 character vin number.
Our vin number in Japan is 10 characters, on the other hand, all the pepople on that list have 17 character vin number.
06-30-2006, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by therm8
Except for the series 1 SA, I believe, that got its name from the VIN didn't it?
I think Mazda is just f'ing with people.
What do the 4th and 5th digits represent in 7's and 8's, anyway?
I think Mazda is just f'ing with people.
What do the 4th and 5th digits represent in 7's and 8's, anyway?
confused now? good
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Quoted from wikipedia...
Series 1 (1979–1980) is referred to as the "SA22C". This series of RX-7 had exposed steel bumpers and a high-mounted license plate located in an indented part of the rear of the car, famously criticized by Werner Buhrer of Road & Track magazine as a "Baroque depression."
Series 2 (1981–1983) had smoothly integrated plastic-covered bumpers, wide black rubber body side moldings, wraparound taillights and updated engine control components. The GSL package provided optional 4-wheel disc brakes and clutch-type rear limited slip differential (LSD). The "FB" designation was only used in North America after the US Department of Transportation mandated 17 digit Vehicle Identification Numbers. Elsewhere in the world, the RX-7 kept the SA22C designation until the 1986 model year (second generation).
The Savanna (not Savannah) was the name given to the RX-3, the FB and the FC in Japan, the name wasn't used internationally
Series 1 (1979–1980) is referred to as the "SA22C". This series of RX-7 had exposed steel bumpers and a high-mounted license plate located in an indented part of the rear of the car, famously criticized by Werner Buhrer of Road & Track magazine as a "Baroque depression."
Series 2 (1981–1983) had smoothly integrated plastic-covered bumpers, wide black rubber body side moldings, wraparound taillights and updated engine control components. The GSL package provided optional 4-wheel disc brakes and clutch-type rear limited slip differential (LSD). The "FB" designation was only used in North America after the US Department of Transportation mandated 17 digit Vehicle Identification Numbers. Elsewhere in the world, the RX-7 kept the SA22C designation until the 1986 model year (second generation).
The Savanna (not Savannah) was the name given to the RX-3, the FB and the FC in Japan, the name wasn't used internationally
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the fairlady designation goes back to the 60s (the idea for the fairlady name goes back to 1958), and is still in use today (the 350z is a fairlady).
irrelevant side note, in the book a wild sheep chase there is a passage that refers to a Honda Fairlady. The honda designation wasn't in the original japanese text. it was incorrectly added by the translator.
irrelevant side note, in the book a wild sheep chase there is a passage that refers to a Honda Fairlady. The honda designation wasn't in the original japanese text. it was incorrectly added by the translator.
Chuusha-jou ga ari, kuriimu iro no fearedii to supootsu taipu no akai serika ga chuusha *****-ita. (p.93)
(lit: There was a car park, a cream-colored Fairlady and a sports-type red Celica were parked.)
In it were a cream-colored Honda Fairlady and a sports car, a red Toyota Celica. (p.252)
(lit: There was a car park, a cream-colored Fairlady and a sports-type red Celica were parked.)
In it were a cream-colored Honda Fairlady and a sports car, a red Toyota Celica. (p.252)
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06-30-2006, 03:02 PM
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Acually, the "Fairlady" name came from America, as the Z was actually specifically designed for the American market. The Nissan employee who was responsible for the Z car had seen "My Fair Lady" and liked it so much that he named the car after it. But Nissan marketing decided that Americans would never purchase a car called the "Fairlady", so the 240Z moniker was adopted.
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actually, the fairlady was orignally used for the datsun spl212 (1960), which was the predecesor to the 240z. the employee was Katsuji Kawamata, President Of Nissan Motors Japan, who did indeed come up with the name after seeing My fair lady (in 1958).
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Originally Posted by Glyphon
actually, the fairlady was orignally used for the datsun spl212 (1960), which was the predecesor to the 240z. the employee was Katsuji Kawamata, President Of Nissan Motors Japan, who did indeed come up with the name after seeing My fair lady (in 1958).
I guess I get to say I was close. I figured you knew more when you listed specifically 1958 in your post before this one. Was he President at that time, or the head of their North American venture?Follows suit with DeLorean naming the GTO Judge, can't completely recall that story, though.
06-30-2006, 03:19 PM
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Yutaka Katayama was the head of the Nissan USA venture.
and yup, you were close
and i don't knwo the delorean gto judge story. i should look that up.
and yup, you were close
and i don't knwo the delorean gto judge story. i should look that up.
06-30-2006, 06:40 PM
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Quoted from wikipedia...
Series 1 (1979–1980) is referred to as the "SA22C". This series of RX-7 had exposed steel bumpers and a high-mounted license plate located in an indented part of the rear of the car, famously criticized by Werner Buhrer of Road & Track magazine as a "Baroque depression."
Series 2 (1981–1983) had smoothly integrated plastic-covered bumpers, wide black rubber body side moldings, wraparound taillights and updated engine control components. The GSL package provided optional 4-wheel disc brakes and clutch-type rear limited slip differential (LSD). The "FB" designation was only used in North America after the US Department of Transportation mandated 17 digit Vehicle Identification Numbers. Elsewhere in the world, the RX-7 kept the SA22C designation until the 1986 model year (second generation).
The Savanna (not Savannah) was the name given to the RX-3, the FB and the FC in Japan, the name wasn't used internationally
Series 1 (1979–1980) is referred to as the "SA22C". This series of RX-7 had exposed steel bumpers and a high-mounted license plate located in an indented part of the rear of the car, famously criticized by Werner Buhrer of Road & Track magazine as a "Baroque depression."
Series 2 (1981–1983) had smoothly integrated plastic-covered bumpers, wide black rubber body side moldings, wraparound taillights and updated engine control components. The GSL package provided optional 4-wheel disc brakes and clutch-type rear limited slip differential (LSD). The "FB" designation was only used in North America after the US Department of Transportation mandated 17 digit Vehicle Identification Numbers. Elsewhere in the world, the RX-7 kept the SA22C designation until the 1986 model year (second generation).
The Savanna (not Savannah) was the name given to the RX-3, the FB and the FC in Japan, the name wasn't used internationally
