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Old 12-07-2005, 08:11 AM
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from fc to 8?

Hello all, just to let yall know I did search for this but came up with nothing. The question is has any body gone from a turbo rx7 to an rx8 and been satisfied? I have test driven an 8 but could not get a feel for what the car was like. The sales man that was with me told me not to shift past 5,500 b/c " that is bad fo this kind of motor" I dident want to be rude so I kept my mouth shut. Anyway the fc I drive is the most amazing car I have ever been in and I could not be any happier with it. So the question is would this be a switch from sports car to sport compact or sport to sport. from what I can gather it would be the later. I know the cars would each have there strong points and the eight would be more reliable, and better on gas 18>12. So if any body has made this swap fc or fd to rx8 I would love to have your input. Thanks noooobe
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This is easy. The 8 is a far superior car and getting into it from an FC is like going from night into day. The 8 makes as much power to the wheels as the 87 to 88 Turbo car was claimed to the flywheel. It has been known to record quicker 0- 60 times also. I have owned every generation, so I do know what I'm talking about.
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the saleman was an idot the car doesn't even get going until 5500 rpms.

I had an old FC, it was fun but this car, I think outdoes it on almost all the areas, better handling, more comfort, no turbo/vaccuum system from hell to cause problems. the FC got better gas milage, my rx8 gets about 22-24 mpg no matter how i drive it.
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Thanks, my fc puts about 280 to the ground( bnr upgrade ) so I know it will be a power drop. I guess I need to find a dealer that will let me drive the car as it was meant to be driven. The 8 also seems to be a bit more tricky to mod, I would realy love to drive one with the greddy kit so I could have the best of both worlds, power of the fc, with the looks, nimbelness, and overall new car feel of the 8. thanks for the help glad to know nobody has regrets about the 8.
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Originally Posted by wona8
Hello all, just to let yall know I did search for this but came up with nothing. The question is has any body gone from a turbo rx7 to an rx8 and been satisfied? I have test driven an 8 but could not get a feel for what the car was like. The sales man that was with me told me not to shift past 5,500 b/c " that is bad fo this kind of motor" I dident want to be rude so I kept my mouth shut. Anyway the fc I drive is the most amazing car I have ever been in and I could not be any happier with it. So the question is would this be a switch from sports car to sport compact or sport to sport. from what I can gather it would be the later. I know the cars would each have there strong points and the eight would be more reliable, and better on gas 18>12. So if any body has made this swap fc or fd to rx8 I would love to have your input. Thanks noooobe
In addition to an RX-8, I have a N/A S5 with some modist performance mods and from that perspective I would say that they are entirely different animals. The RX-8 is a much more "refined" vehicle in it's OEM form. The car is smooth, relatively fast, with supurb handling, but it shouldn't be considered an iteration of the RX-7. It is a unique car in it's own right. You should go to another dealer and test drive one hard in straight line and twisties to get the feel of it before you buy.
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The FC (hatchback right?) has more rear "trunk" room as well. So if you are used to that, you'll miss it on the 8.
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Originally Posted by Go48
In addition to an RX-8, I have a N/A S5 with some modist performance mods and from that perspective I would say that they are entirely different animals. The RX-8 is a much more "refined" vehicle in it's OEM form. The car is smooth, relatively fast, with supurb handling, but it shouldn't be considered an iteration of the RX-7. It is a unique car in it's own right. You should go to another dealer and test drive one hard in straight line and twisties to get the feel of it before you buy.
Yea, I think it was that guys first day, before we even left the lot he asked if I was gonna pay cash or credit? after three years of fc I will never own a pistion car so I guess I will go with the 8. I just dont know if I can stand to see the rx7 go
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I didn't realize you were trying to compare it to a modified turbo FC. That's a whole different ball game (For power anyhow). As Go48 pointed out, the level of refinement is a major step up on the 8, but that should be obvious to you even below 5500 rpms I have 2 FDs and one of them is modified but that doesn't change how much I enjoy my 8.
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I've got an FC currently and frankly i don't want to give it up for an RX-8. Im still waiting for word on PTP's turbo for the RX-8 or any F/I from the factory.
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Originally Posted by Mazmart
I didn't realize you were trying to compare it to a modified turbo FC. That's a whole different ball game (For power anyhow). As Go48 pointed out, the level of refinement is a major step up on the 8, but that should be obvious to you even below 5500 rpms I have 2 FDs and one of them is modified but that doesn't change how much I enjoy my 8.
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That is good to know, as I have driven a modded fd and they are pure... well you get the idea. It is not raw power I am looking for but overall balance. So I think the eight is the way to go. If I could find a way to keep the fc for weekends and fair weather I would be happy. also I do all the work on the seven myself will the waranty be void on the 8 if I chose to do that?
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
I've got an FC currently and frankly i don't want to give it up for an RX-8. Im still waiting for word on PTP's turbo for the RX-8 or any F/I from the factory.
Love the avatar, what is wrong with the greddy kit? I have heard mixed results but I think insatation error could play a part in that
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Maybe the dealer wanted to keep the RPM's down due the engine not being properly broke in yet.

The 8 is going to be allot quieter to drive also. And for safety sakes, it is very well designed in case things go wrong on the highway.
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[QUOTE=Mazmart]I didn't realize you were trying to compare it to a modified turbo FC. QUOTE]

Who has a turbo rotary and doesnt do some mods to it? lol
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The car was a used gt with 18,000 on the clock, also he did not know how to put it in reverse. anyway I will go drive another car at another dealership hipefully it turns out better.
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Originally Posted by wona8
The car was a used gt with 18,000 on the clock, also he did not know how to put it in reverse. anyway I will go drive another car at another dealership hipefully it turns out better.
You definitely need to find another dealer or another salesman.
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Find a salesperson that is also an enthusiast.

When I was looking at cars back in '03, I took a 350z out for a test drive. I took the car around a slight turn at about 60mph and the saleman freaked (the turn was marked as 45mph) , he actually splayed out his arms to brace himself with the door and passenger dash while saying "slow down!". The tires did not break loose or screech. I drove like a granny the rest of the way back to the lot. When the sales guy asked what I thought of the car, I answered, "Looks nice but I have no idea how it performs".
About two weeks later I went to a Mazda dealer. I asked the salesman if I could take the car around some turns to test its handling, his answer "I know just the place". After driving the car on a private road at 110mph, taking turns at about 75% of the cars limit I was hooked. I bought the car that day.

The moral of the story: Find a saleperson that understands what the car is
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Originally Posted by wona8
Love the avatar, what is wrong with the greddy kit? I have heard mixed results but I think insatation error could play a part in that
The Greddy will max out ~300whp, im looking for a comfortable 350whp and PTP has already achieved that power level. There also seem to be leaking lines, the emanage vs stock ecu, and other problems with greddy. Emanage vs Fcon is a no brainer, but im still skeptical. I would also like to hear about the SCs once they start rolling out, especially since they tend to be more reliable.

In other words, im content to wait a while until most issues are sorted out.
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Originally Posted by swiftnet
When I was looking at cars back in '03, I took a 350z out for a test drive. I took the car around a slight turn at about 60mph and the saleman freaked (the turn was marked as 45mph) , he actually splayed out his arms to brace himself with the door and passenger dash while saying "slow down!". The tires did not break loose or screech. I drove like a granny the rest of the way back to the lot. When the sales guy asked what I thought of the car, I answered, "Looks nice but I have no idea how it performs".
About two weeks later I went to a Mazda dealer. I asked the salesman if I could take the car around some turns to test its handling, his answer "I know just the place". After driving the car on a private road at 110mph, taking turns at about 75% of the cars limit I was hooked. I bought the car that day.

The moral of the story: Find a saleperson that understands what the car is
The brand new RX-8 I was interested in was sitting in the local Mazda dealers showroom when I arrived. After inspecting the car for a while, the salesman asked me if I'd like to take it for a test drive. Of course I said yes. He very carefully backed it out of the showroom and out onto the sales lot. My wife and I hopped in and he said, "take if for a nice drive and have fun." We did, and I bought it. Since it was brand-spanking new I didn't thrash it, but drove it briskly enough to get a feel for what was to come after proper break-in.

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Find a better salesman.

My salesman friggin owned (John at Oak Tree Mazda in San Jose). He let me take it out and let me rail on the car. Then he let my cousin take it out and my cousin tested it out as well, then they lent it to us for a few hours so i could show the wife. I did about 10 miles when i brought it back they were like WTF, why didn't you drive it more? Ha ha ha.

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Not to brag but my salesman let me take the 8 home over night. It looked so cool sitting in my garage. It was 24hrs of the best fun i ever had in a car. I bought the car when I returned it . I could not part with it.
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New York City's Mazda salesman are gay. They wont let me test drive any of the 8.

but I still bought it. haha !
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Back to the comparison of the FC to the 8. After driving a 87 Sport model FC for 17 years, I upgraded to the 8. As was said above, REFINEMENT is the word to describe it. It is better than the FC in virtually every way. Of course, the 8 would not be a fast in a straight line as a modded Turbo II, but it will brake and corner better. And it will be a more comfortable and quieter ride with a nicer interior, better lights, better safety (8 airbags!) and the list goes on. Basically it takes advantage of the 15 years of automotive progress since the FC.

I find it just as much fun to drive as the FC and a hell of a lot better as a daily driver. Once you take a *proper* test drive, you'll be converted.

Good luck and happy rotoring.
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
The Greddy will max out ~300whp, im looking for a comfortable 350whp and PTP has already achieved that power level. There also seem to be leaking lines, the emanage vs stock ecu, and other problems with greddy. Emanage vs Fcon is a no brainer, but im still skeptical. I would also like to hear about the SCs once they start rolling out, especially since they tend to be more reliable.

In other words, im content to wait a while until most issues are sorted out.
Yea the aftermarket support dose bother me. Alot of people are still testing the waters since the 8 is a new car, with the fc every body knows the best way to 350,400, or 500 whp. but the balance of the car appeals to me. I dont want to turbo it until the warranty runs out so buy then the ptp kit should be tested. thanks.
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Originally Posted by Roaddemon
Not to brag but my salesman let me take the 8 home over night. It looked so cool sitting in my garage. It was 24hrs of the best fun i ever had in a car. I bought the car when I returned it . I could not part with it.
I ony got to spend 15 min with mine the only other maz dealer is almost 2 hours away but im shure its worth the trip. maybe I should call first to see if they have a compatent sales guy. or one that wont ruien the seat if I redline the car
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Stock for stock the 8 will pull on the FC turbo from 30 up to 120 mph.



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