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Old 10-31-2005, 07:30 PM
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can someone please tell me how to exactly turn off the dsc? i live in an area where it is not required(totally flat, no snow). i also want it off so i can do burnouts. i was distraught when i tried a burnout and all that happened was the dsc light came on and the wheels locked up and it was no burnout. anyways. anyone know EXACTLY how to do it?
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Old 10-31-2005, 07:32 PM
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Hold the DSC for around 7 seconds.

its not only for snow, it makes ur car more stable in a lot of areas, even dry.

But its your car, your choice, your life. We cant say anything can we ?
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ok but where is the button i press to hold down the dsc? is it located on the dash or what?and can i turn it back on just as easily like i would do turning it off?
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It's on the left side of your left knee on the dash with the letters DSC on it. Next time you turn off your car it re-sets. It's location is also mentioned in the Manual.

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Old 10-31-2005, 07:48 PM
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k thanks a lot
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no need to press and hold the button down. simply pressing the button as normal will suffice. all holding the button down does is trigger a "switch malfunction".
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Originally Posted by Glyphon
no need to press and hold the button down. simply pressing the button as normal will suffice. all holding the button down does is trigger a "switch malfunction".
What? Pushing the button once turns off DSC. Holding the button down for 7-8 seconds turns off DSC and TCS.

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Old 10-31-2005, 09:23 PM
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nope. both do the same thing. try it.
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What do you mean "they both do the same thing"? What both? You mean one short push vs. one long push. If that is what you mean then, no, they poth do not do the same thing.
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Originally Posted by Glyphon
nope. both do the same thing. try it.
you're the one who should try it, you'll notice the difference
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Noob question, what do DSC and TCS abbreviate anyway?
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Dynamic Stability Control and Traction Control System I think.
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DCS = Dynamic Stability Control
TCS = Traction Control

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Originally Posted by Raptor2k
Noob question, what do DSC and TCS abbreviate anyway?
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Oh. Should of just used some brain juice. Thanks
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Originally Posted by KuzuRyuuSen
you're the one who should try it, you'll notice the difference
Not only that, but the difference has been proven on video by best motoring. There is a difference!
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that video hardly proves anything.

my previous comments about the video
yeah, i found it.

but i have issues with it...the driver seems to drive each mode different. for instance, in run #1 he accelerates to 119km/h, then coasts to 110km/h and performs the manuver. in run number two, he accelerates to 119km/h, then coasts to 114 km/h then does the corner. in run #3 he accelerates to 119km/h but this time he brakes, then eases off the brakes some. and on run #4 he accelerates to 119km/h but this time when he brakes, he stands on it until it comes to a stop.

in his different runs, he plays around with weight transfer to help create the dramatic differences in each mode. it was pretty interesting to watch, but because of these differences i'm still a little skeptical.

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...light=dsc+video
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if you push the button once you disable DSC (dynamic stability control). this means you can do moderate slides, but if the car detects too much loss in traction it will activate the TCS (traction control system). holding the button will disable both the DSC and TCS. this means you can do full out slides like Tsuchiya-san

if you just want to do a burnout, either pushing the button once or holding it will do. use some bleach...makes a better effect
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Ok lets say u press once, drive around, skidded a bit too much and the car will reactivate DSC or the TCS? Or does it require ABS to be activated before the thing reactivates?
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Glif, While the difference between TCS vs Nothing is a subtle one (especially compared to the difference between DSC "on" vs "off"), that doesn't mean that pushing the button for 8 seconds necessarily produces a "switch malfunction". I was hoping that you would elaborate on your theory regarding this?
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Originally Posted by yiksing
Ok lets say u press once, drive around, skidded a bit too much and the car will reactivate DSC or the TCS? Or does it require ABS to be activated before the thing reactivates?
If I understand you, no. You turn DSC off and you skid, you are on your own. You can turn DSC back on with a button push. You CANT turn TCS on until you restart the car. You can not turn ABS on or off. BTW I have only activated ABS once and that was in a major panic stop on the highway. I have actually tried to activate ABS under 40 mph in a parking lot and could not (as far as I could tell)

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Bear with me for a moment. The DSC does not reactivate if u skidded too much (after u do the single press)?
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Not too sure; haven't pushed it that far. Be warned, the car will get tail-happy on wet roads, loose gravel, etc with this off. Here in Austin, the roads tend to be really slick when it rains. Guess its all the oil from the lack of rain.
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Originally Posted by carbonRX8
Glif, While the difference between TCS vs Nothing is a subtle one (especially compared to the difference between DSC "on" vs "off"), that doesn't mean that pushing the button for 8 seconds necessarily produces a "switch malfunction". I was hoping that you would elaborate on your theory regarding this?
owner manual, 5-23
*Press the DSC OFF switch to turn off the TCS/DSC. The DSC OFF indicator light will illuminate.

*Leaving the TCS/DSC on will provide the best stability. When the TCS/DSC is off, the TCS/DSC does not activate but the brake LSD function remains.

*If the DSC OFF switch is pressed and held for a second or more, the TCS/DSC system may become inoperative due to the system detecting switch trouble. If the TCS/DSC system becomes inoperative, the TCS/DSC and the DSC OFF indicator lights illuminate simultaneously.
in real world conditions, on a track (not with my car, this is directed at you mazda), there was absolutely no performance difference between off and the so called off-off in burnouts and donuts.
Old 11-01-2005, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Glyphon
in real world conditions, on a track (not with my car, this is directed at you mazda), there was absolutely no performance difference between off and the so called off-off in burnouts and donuts.
There is a difference, alot of difference.

First, track driving (DSC pressed once). In entering medium speed corners i had problems with braking, i could not arrange my car with brakes to go slightly oversteer which i wanted so i can enter with higher speed. I had to take out the ABS fuse, to turn all electronic help, and then was ok.
After seeing bestmotoring video i tried on the track with holding DSC for couple of seconds. My brakes were not blocking, ABS worked fine, and there no problems for me to make my car oversteer while braking.

Second, snow mountain driving. During snow times i go on closeby mountain to drive/drift. During drifting on long curves, sometimes u need to make the car to slide longer (better to say powerslide), and you need to use the handbrake during drift for that. If DSC button is pressed only once, rear brakes wont block, which is essential for some curves. After holding the button for long time i have full control over my braking.
here you are a video of winter drive https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-multimedia-photo-gallery-6/video-togue-snow-drifting-51236/
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hmm...i wonder if one of the canscan tools can read the information of what's going on to give a somewhat definative answer.


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