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Krankor 04-03-2007 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by eforer
I'm sorry, I think you misinterperted my point. Its not required, but I really think its enjoyable. Its a great way to enhance your driving experience once your past the basics. I agree 100% with working on the getting around town before you worry about this stuff. I just thought it might be fun for these guys to see where you can go with it.

One thing that is worthwhile is having a basic understanding of how a manual gearbox works as it helps you understand why the car does what it does. It also helps to explain why certain things like hill holding, fast hard shifts and stuff like that are a big no no, even for beginners.

Didn't mean to shove anything down anyone's throats though. When the stick noobs are ready, this stuff is really fun and rewarding.

Good luck, have fun with your 6mts and congratulations on taking the plunge into learning to drive a manual!

I understand what you're saying. I think this most recent post of yours clarifies it nicely. I was just concerned that the newbies were feeling overwhelmed. And I didn't want any potential manual transmission newbies reading this thread to get scared off. :) It's easy guys, you can do it! :)

eforer 04-03-2007 03:28 PM

I hope that with the advent of the DSG gearbox and American's appetite for automatics, that the real H-gated, 3 pedal manual gearbox setup doesn't go the way of the Do-Do. Its good to see new people steping up to learn what is really a dying art.

NoOdLe BoY 04-03-2007 03:37 PM

wow that sucks. there needs to be stricter drinking laws. there should be doormen at bars and clubs with breathalizers who take your keys away if you dont pass the test. lol. wishful thinkin. wen i take corners i get into 2nd cause it has more acceleration. but if uyour in 3rd and your taking a corner a bit slow isnt that stressing your engine? i havent stalled since the first 2 days of driving stick except about 3 days ago. i was at a dunkin donuts drive thru with my gf and i thought i had it in neutral and i let the clutch out and i stalled. i got sad n mad. like a little kid who cant beat a game or somethin. lol. and as for heel toeing, as soon as im comfortable with regular shifting im gonna give it a try.

NoOdLe BoY 04-03-2007 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by eforer
I hope that with the advent of the DSG gearbox and American's appetite for automatics, that the real H-gated, 3 pedal manual gearbox setup doesn't go the way of the Do-Do. Its good to see new people steping up to learn what is really a dying art.

i agree very much. :)

eforer 04-03-2007 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by NoOdLe BoY
wow that sucks. there needs to be stricter drinking laws. there should be doormen at bars and clubs with breathalizers who take your keys away if you dont pass the test. lol. wishful thinkin. wen i take corners i get into 2nd cause it has more acceleration. but if uyour in 3rd and your taking a corner a bit slow isnt that stressing your engine? i havent stalled since the first 2 days of driving stick except about 3 days ago. i was at a dunkin donuts drive thru with my gf and i thought i had it in neutral and i let the clutch out and i stalled. i got sad n mad. like a little kid who cant beat a game or somethin. lol. and as for heel toeing, as soon as im comfortable with regular shifting im gonna give it a try.

The gear you need to be in is dependant on the corner and how much corner speed you want to carry ;) In order not to "lug" the engine you need to not floor it when way below the power band. If your rolling through the corner in 3rd and its at 2000 rpm or somewhere in that neighborhood and you want to be able to get back in the throttle with some alacrity your in too tall a gear.

Let your tach be your guide until you have a good enough intuitive sense to make the decisions naturally. The car is pretty happy crusing around in the 3-4k range, but if you want to get on the gas you really need to be around 5k to not really "lug" it.

In a car with a high rpm power band and little torque its going to take a bit of shifting. Take your time and don't be in too big a hurry to go to full throttle unless your sitting in the sweet spot of the powerband.

dmc27 04-03-2007 03:51 PM

It's cheaper to make the MT than any other option. MT is not going anywhere.


Originally Posted by NoOdLe BoY
but if uyour in 3rd and your taking a corner a bit slow isnt that stressing your engine?

no. unless your definition of "a bit slow" is ~3 miles an hour.

Krankor 04-03-2007 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by eforer
I hope that with the advent of the DSG gearbox and American's appetite for automatics, that the real H-gated, 3 pedal manual gearbox setup doesn't go the way of the Do-Do. Its good to see new people steping up to learn what is really a dying art.

Funny you should mention that. My friend who here-to-fore drove stick just bought a new car with the DSG thing, and I was having the same thoughts...

eforer 04-03-2007 08:30 PM

I think its a great technology, I'd love to see the world all dsg and traditional manuals with no automatics. Unfortunately I think its more likely that we'll see fewer and fewer traditional manuals.

Joe_914 04-04-2007 11:47 AM

Clutch has two positions "IN" or "OUT"
The way I manage slow motion traffic is more of:
Clutch in select gear, Gas and clutch to move car, Clutch in select nuetral clutch out, coast.

If you are moving a little faster then this will still work just select appropriate gear and then be careful not to let the clutch out if your revs are not matching the speed of the car. Make wheel hop and shows everyone you can't drive.

A.Mair 04-04-2007 09:16 PM

i usually take open corners in third and closed in second.
Usually at about 20 mph in third and about 12 in second
I actually span out the once because there is an area right at the bottom of our road that got my tires wet and i took a corner in secind and gave it too much gas and span out, it was so embarrasing


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