j1mb0x99

In my opinion Drifting has its place in rally races. Only in rally or loose traction surfaces will drifting get you better lap times. Otherwise it is just for show. It is, however, a good idea to learn how to drift. In bad conditions you never know when your going to loose traction and if you know how to drift you will not be as likely to panic and you can bring the car back to traction quicker and safer. Plus it can be fun in safe circumstances.

-JiM

Geek

Not to be an *** Thanksgiving..but it's spelled don't....

"To Rice Or Not To Rice"

"To Drift Or Not To Drift"

"To Care Or Not To Care"

If you hate drifting that much don't post on a drifting thread....

eccles

It's not just for show, it's a valid sport, just not necessarily one enjoyed by many folks here.

Drifting is to racing as ice dancing is to speed skating or mogul freestyle is to downhill racing - they're entirely different skill sets that happen to use similar equipment and venues. Saying one is more or less valid than the other is disingenuous.

x28

pur nrg...

haha

thanksgiving

nur nrg... what kinda name is that.. but anyways

Its understood, that Americans dun deserve to drive the top notch cars. The moderator was just stupid to take out my post cause I did post the links....

I dun wnat to spend my time and find the links again.. what you are tyring to say is there are more American's in love wiht cars then Japan. Hahah... that is just funny, try to find someone that will support that fact. I think you will have a hard time, cause no US company makes good cars... nor good mods... well maybe there is one or two... I can;t say there is NONE.

but yea... to prove my point.. NUR NRG... America really dun deserve the top notch jap cars.

Man.. people like you... its just understood what America does have idiots like you that dun understand things. I wonder why Subaru didn't import their STi Spec C, or the STi wagon... or why did Mitsubishi did not import their GSR... you guys have the crappy 5 speed version with NO AYC (you even know what that is...I dun thikn so). Why did US have the uglier and slower version of the RX7 and the cheaper and slower verison of even the normal WRX? Cause Japanese dun think you guys deserve to drive out top notch car. What do you think?

thanksgiving

I am sorry.... I should not generalize all Americans... but just the whole world just hate america. The terriost attacks and wars against America... are great proofs. Can you find proof to back up the fact that peple dun? can you reply to that NUR NRG... guys like you are so full of themselves...

thanksgiving

I love drifting ... dun take me wrong.

sup3rbad

Man... I don't care if the moderator take this out... YOU, SIR, ARE AN *******

druck

And that they are right hand drive.

thanksgiving

NO, how does the lancer evolution having a 6 speed and the AYC affect the emission standard?

And they are right hand drive? They made the STi left hand, why not the Spec C and the other ones. Do you guys know anything about spec C? They are the lighter version of the STi, wiht a different ECU... oh well see.. I am right... you guys know nothing about cars. And still dun deserve to drive the top notch cars in Japan. Go and drive the Mustangs =)

spdspappy

A trolling we will go, a trolling we will go, high ho the merry o a trolling we will go...

sup3rbad

I take it you are Japanese... So what about the Japanese people living in th US?

thanksgiving

not a lot of Japanese people lives in America.

MPG > HP

How's this TG?

1965 at a national guard helicopter paved 1/4 mile triangle known as Miles Square. "Drifting" just like in the vids posted here in my '58 Impala (bubble hood and no bumper) w/ punched, "blueprinted", 301 w/ 327 heads, balanced crank and alu pistons plus dual quads (6 MPG @ $0.25/gal for "high test"). Just ask the model airplane flyers who always seemed to scatter whenever I made it down to their end of the "strip." Yeah, we wuz have'n some smokey fun even back then and sure weren't the first. Even stuck my leg out the window once! Btw, I'm Japanese-American(great granpa caught one of the first "official" boats here), so there are a few of us around who appreciate your enthusiasm, but would prefer your keeping it in your pants, if you catch my "DRIFT." LOL

(Wha'd he say?)

Nubo

You are so right. I hide my head in shame. I am not deserving to drive your top notch car.

thanksgiving

First I have no idea what MPG was trying to say, I think he was in a little world of his own... but lets all just forget about him.

that is just some **** that you can make up if you want. I dun thik Americans are known to be good drivers? What do you think? Who invented drifting first... its hard to say... how about you answer me who invented cars? Not the first production car, but the first car? Who?

Come on, just admit that you guys can only turn left and drive in straight lines. You guys deserve your Fords, Saturns, Mecury (why the hell do you guys name cars after planets? I wonder when Earth is goign to come out), and the Chevy that is just like a rock (that means that its heavy, can;t move, and has no value at all. Who the hell would use a rock to try help sell their cars.... interesting American ideas. I really have to bow down to that! =))

Let me think of some good american cars! the Mustang!! The Viper!! The Camaro!! and I am sure there are lots more... but guess what... the go like super very fast down the straights only to know that they hvae no brakes at all and their cars can turn at all. Woohoo and htey say hello to the wall.

But all your American heros!! my thumbs up, I mean if you guys actually go on a trip and see some parts of the world. I am sure what you will understand what I am trying to say. Some.. moderator I said some not all.. Americans are just so interested in bombing other countries. Woohoo, spend all the americna tax money on bombing targets that cost half the price of the missle you just fired. Great job

And drifing, can you guys tell me a few techniquews on how to start a drift?

JDM Drifter

Hail JDM!!!
All merican cars sucks go boom in to wall!!!!
They cant move!!!!
Nice going tg!!!

Hail King Tsuchiya!!!
Hail King Tsuchiya!!

vosko

i know the guys that run the drift events on the east coast and yeah we have 240sx's that are converted to 180sx's and silvia's and every kind of car that can drift does drift. its hard to do it well but its not brain surgery just takes lots of practice and trashed tires

Lawerence

maybe you are in a world of your own?

Dont know who invented the first car. There is alot of debate about that.
As far as americans not being good drivers...neither are japanese, or germans or anyone. Unless you are a professional race car driver (which america has more of than any other country BTW) I dont think you're a good driver. IM pretty sure youre not a prefessional...so you cant drive either.

more on american race car drivers...
http://www.imp.mc/rocwebsite/index.htm
on the left menu click "the race" then click on "results"
the winners of the ROC nations cup...hmmm all americans who would've thought?
And the like a rock is refering to trucks...which should be tough...

Great you show us your ignorance!
Lets compare the Viper (since you brought it up) to an NSX.
Speed: viper wins (duh!)
braking: viper wins (nsx 70-0 164 feet, viper 70-0 153 feet)
Skidpad: viper wins (nsx .93 g's, viper 1.03g's)
Slalom: viper wins (nsx 66mph, viper 68.6mph)
Now take a corvette Z06, and it will handily beat an NSX in any performance test, while costing 25-30 THOUSAND DOLLARS LESS. (basically you could buy an rx8 with the left over money)
Now these cars beat pretty much any japanese car that isnt a 'super car'.
RX7, Skyline GTR, Supra, NSX, 300zx TT, 350z, EVO, STi, S2k...all would handily get thier asses whooped on.
HMMM starting to look like japanese cars cant brake, turn or even go fast.

Oh how about the fact that a FWD neon (srt4) out accelerates, brakes (YES OUT BRAKES!!) your RX8...while costing $10,000 less!
Im not saying its a better car...just americans have some awosome cars as well.

I've been to other parts of the world and lived in other countries. Never been to japan, but my brother lived there for a year.
I thought we were talking about cars; not politics.

Why would you want to listen to us americans?

Oh and dont think im an american car fonboy...im far from it.
I drive a japanese car and my next car will probably be japanese (or german). You just need to learn that there is no one country that produces the best cars or drivers. You also need to learn that there a bunch of american cars that would handily whoop your *** in any given performance test or on a track...

Have a nice day.

thanksgiving

Americans lie man... what the ****. Lincoln said their car was better then BMW 5 series. There are always **** liek that. You believe advertisements, or results that are dun by car magazines? The magazine from Road and Track about the RX8 technical data is almost bs. The MPG didn;t match, the horsepower didn't match, the 0-60 was almost impossible to do and the 1/4 mile time is hard to achieve. Yeah yeah yeha, Germans are not good drivers... hmm I know Michael Schumacher sucks. He sucks so much.... just save it lawerence. Think about it, if the Vipers and the Corvetts really are that good. They would be famous around the world for racing. I mean just look at the viper for example. I mean its ******* nice, but the head of the car is so heavy. I am damn sure that it is ******* head heavy and will understeer like a ******. And if u are so smart lawerence, can you tell me what the **** MPG was trying to say. I really wanna know.

Hahah, I truely believe only the Supra and the GTR will kick you sissy *** man. WHAHAHAH sorry I jus thad to laugh.... how stupid to say that. I am sure a ferrari can kick GTR and Supra's ***... but American cars. Well of course you have to play it fair and let the GTR have a little bit of modification. Because in Japan, the cars are programmed so it won;t go pass 180kph (about 115mph). Just let JUN tune the car, and so it will be about 1000 horsepower. Lets see what will happen. I have seen the F50 race against the GTR in Hong Kong for a 1/4 mile. They were pretty close but the GTR still lost by .08 seconds or so. But that is against F50, not the shitty Americna cars.

You just dun want to admit that Americans can;t drive. Its okay. A lot of people think so. I mnea, getting a lisence in US is like so easy. You start the car, drive 3 blocks with all left turns (woohoo idiot nascar racers) and stop the car. And there you go, your lisence....

Jump120MPH

Saul So you decided to buy one huh. A blue one at that. Guess I better get some rims so our cars wont look alike.

sup3rbad

Thanksgiving used the "F" so much you know he's getting nervous. Round 1 goes to Lawrence. Round 2 anyone?

Gord96BRG

Nope, not worth my (or anyone's) time arguing with this racist bigot (by that I mean the user 'thanksgiving'). He'll ignore any supported proven arguments you make and just spout the same racist, bigoted, profane garbage back.

Why, I'm sure he doesn't even know who Phil Hill, Dan Gurney, Richie Ginter, Peter Revson, or Mario Andretti are, much less realise that these American drivers have all won Formula1 races (2 of them, World Championships) in their driving careers. He probably doesn't know who Gilles Villeneuve or Jacques Villeneuve are either, or that they're Canadians who've won World Championships or F1 races too.

Not knowing them, he probably conveniently ignores the fact that there's never been a Japanese driver who's won a F1 race, in fact there's never been a Japanese F1 driver who's been good enough to make it into F1 without having a big sponsor or Japanese engine manufacturer pay a Formula1 team to have him drive. Even Takuma Sato, considered to be the best racing driver to ever come from Japan, can only get a Formula1 drive when Honda pays for it or bullies the teams they supply engines to let Sato drive.

See, if thanksgiving knew all that, then he could hardly claim such superiority for Japanese drivers over American drivers - how else could he ignore the obvious superiority of American (and North American) drivers over Japanese drivers at the very peak of automobile competition, where only the best of the best drivers ever make it?

Then again, he mentions Schumacher... maybe thanksgiving really is just a racist troll, and nothing more. Either way, he's definitely not worth arguing with.

Regards,
Gordon

BlueAdept

guys, calm it..... before I have to moderate y'all... ;-)

I guess I qualify as as close to an outsider on this arguement as it's possible to be, so might I just point out that other forum members are complaining about the language and general bickering going in in this thread....

SO!... Please try to express your opinions a little more eloquently!

My personal comment is:-

"Lawrence" should watch some "Initial D"

and

"Thanksgiving" should watch some Autocross

Hopefully gain some appreciation for each others preferred way of enjoying their cars...

thanksgiving

Idiot, why would I get nervous. Its not like i am talking face to face wiht anyone of you. Haha... round 1, is this some kinda fight?

Haha only diss the Americans, not another one else. So yeha, other drivers do rock. Read my other post carefully pls.

Sorry, I really never have herad of the guys that you talked about, only the current F1 drivers. And what cars do these guys drive. Forumla Race cars, do you drive those cars? No... you drive street cars, except for Formula Nippon other racing series drives street modified cars. I think in La mans 24 hours race, Keiichi Tychuya did win two. And so did other drivers. Woohoo, bunch of idiots.