Anybody here building their RX-8 for drifting or does anybody have any info or pictures from Japanesse RX_8 dirfters?

 

Somebody pls fill me in on what "drifting" is?

 

Basically, drifting is getting your car sideways down a road. It doesn't sound very hard does it? Sounds a hell of a lot like power sliding huh? Well it isn't, it's much more complex. Instead of a drifter causing a drift and then countering to straighten out, he will instead over counter so his car goes into another drift. That is the reason many drifters do it in the mountains, because there are many sharp turns strung together. So in essence a good drifter has the ability to take five or six opposing turns without having traction at any point in time. To put it simply a good definition of drifting is, "Sliding your car through a set of opposed and grouped turns without having rear wheel traction as your car moves laterally through the turns."

 

So it's kind of like power sliding in motocross?

 

http://www.dazee.net/videos/drifter.html

 

ooh boy. i'll try to answer spdsapy's question early on or this could get redundant. drifting is a way of driving where the driver turns the car by depressing on the accelerator rather than turning the steering wheel (for RWD cars). for a car like the rx8 which is RWD, usually drifting is done when entering a corner the driver creates wheelspin in the back by braking (shifting the weight to the front and reducint traction in the back wheels) and accelerating to keep the rear wheels spinning, causing the back to slide outwards while turning.

 

I always refered to it as a '4-wheel drift'. I learned to do it in a 1984 300Z and got pretty good at it in my '79 Alfa Spider in 1985. It was *a lot* easier to do back when performance tires were 195/50 R14.

Having just driven my 8 through a torrential downpour here in GA, I'd have to say this car is too sticky and well mannered to easily break it into a drift. It's way easier when your HP clearly overpowers your tires, IMO.

I'd also have to admit I'm too frugal to purposefully shorten the life of these expensive tires. I drive hard up to the limit of adhesion...beyond is overkill.

- Eric H., Marietta, GA

2004 RX8 titanium
1976 Alfa Romeo Spider

 

Freakin stupid, sounds like a waste of tires, clutch, and oh yea, tires.

 

Here is another cool video
http://www.fastandfuriouseast.com/ga...y/drift32.mpeg

 

This one is the best drifting video ever
http://www.teamnightkids.com/videos/drift1221.asf

 

Wow, now that's wasting some tires... It sure looks like the general motocross rule of turn left to go right to me.

 

the whole point and purpose of a "drift" is to get your car around an apex or hairpin with the greatest entry speed, style, and technique in order to obtain a better lap time. The D1 judges base their decisions on entry speed, and technique..

 

its a little more complicated than that...watch a keichi tsuchiya video...or buy a copy of the "Drift Bible"

 

Here is a good video showing good drifting technics
http://www.nocamzmotorsport.co.nz/ph...s/r34vss15.wmv

 

Well...I just got rid of an AE86. It was an 86 Corolla GTS Liftback, I had TRD suspension, I/H/E, nice wheels. I drifted it. I will drift the RX8. There is an event every last wednesday of every month at englishtown raceway park. It is awesome. There's a bunch of FC's and Vosko drifts his FD. It's fun.

check it out:

www.dgtrials.com

 

You should get someone to record and post some videos in here dude. That would be awesome.

 

Check out Wired Magazine's recent article on drifting...

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.10/drifting.html

Here's the how-to guide:

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/1...ic=&topic_set=

 

Technically, I consider "drifting" to be a misnomer; what we're seeing here is a controlled powerslide or oversteer. The difference between that and a genuine drift is that a drift requires all four wheels to have exceeded their slip angles and lost traction, whereas what we see in "drifting" is simply breaking the rear end loose and countersteering to control the slide.

I'll grant that there's a degree of skill and finesse involved in linking a series of oversteer manoeuvers into a single flow, but it's still not a genuine drift in my book.

Resurrect the likes of Fangio, Brabham, Surtees and Moss, and they'll show you what real drifting is about!

 

Americans and their driving technique. I am sorry, but I really can't help it. Drifting have been famous in Japan since 10 to 15 years ago. beign able to drift in an FR is one of the requirements for a good FR car in Japan.

Some of you laugh and say that its a waste of tires, and I just laugh how ignorant Americans are.

 

If the point is to get around the corner the quickest, then a power oversteer drift is NOT the way to do it. You don't see Formula1, NASCAR, CART, or any sports car series "drifting" like that, do you? No, because it's the SLOW way around a corner. As Eccles said, a real 4 wheel drift is different (and faster) than a power oversteer drift. Drifting is only about style.

Regards,
Gordon

 

You seem to be implying that drifting is a better driving technique than, well, whatever those crazy Americans do. "Drifting have been famous in Japan since 10 to 15 years ago," and it's very important for FR cars (what's an FR car?), but how is it better? Please enlighten; I don't want to be ignorant anymore.

 

I wanna build my car for drifting. But I'm still learning. It's one of the reasons why I love thr FR drivetrain so much. From what I've learned this car should be good for drifting because of it's 50/50 wieght distribution.

Front engine (F) Rear wheel drive (R)= FR

 

Here's an interesting video of a EVO doing some drifting, and then what happens if you lose your concentration while doing so...

http://www.angelfire.com/nb/zuumx/lancer_evo_vii.asf

 

drifting is NOT a better techinique, it's slow, and for show only.. anyone who tries to drift going downhill on the mountains is just plain suicide...

you kids should quit watching so much "Initial D". .. go back to playing your Grand Tourismo and try not to kill yourself as you try to "drift through the next hairpin."

anyone one dumb enuff to start learning to drift on a brand new rx-8 really needs to just grow up...