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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 03:39 PM
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A friend sent me this message. He didn't disclose the source. I was wondering if anyone else heard anything about this?

"Production of the new Mazda RX-8 has hit a problem, workers in the new plant producing the groundbreaking Renesis engine have forgoten to place the seals around the second rotor, all models currently produced have to be disassembled and the second rotor seal added, this will postpone the release of the RX-8 until the third quarter of 2003"

I'll keep looking to actually confirm this myself. --curtlo
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 03:53 PM
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i was still under the assumption that nothing had been built yet except for engines and cars used in testing. i had not heard that even started producing engines in any amountso far.
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 03:55 PM
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Let's hope not! I've been waiting 2 years now, I can't wait longer! :D
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 03:56 PM
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I pretty much doubt that claim. Mazda has most certainly not started "for sale" production on either the RENESIS or the RX-8. And if they were doing pre-production runs, they found a problem and likely fixed it immediately.

I hightly doubt the validity of that statement.
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 04:56 PM
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Extremely unlikely.

If the cars were that far along, why would replacing the seals really delay more than a day or two? It would not add many months. Forgetting to install the seals? I doubt that also.
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 05:10 PM
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I'm not surprised your friend didn't reveal the sources. it might have been Nissan though.
Anyway, it's a load of CaCa.
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 05:38 PM
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Yep. "Job One" hasn't even started yet. It shouldn't take too long to fix zero engines...
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by Grimace
Yep. "Job One" hasn't even started yet. It shouldn't take too long to fix zero engines...
I re-read that and had to laugh :D
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 06:20 PM
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Originally posted by boowana
I'm not surprised your friend didn't reveal the sources. it might have been Nissan though.
Anyway, it's a load of CaCa.
i had that same nissan thought! evrybody is taking my ideas today!
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by Grimace
Yep. "Job One" hasn't even started yet. It shouldn't take too long to fix zero engines...
Unless they've been used for kamikaze strikes...

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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 09:19 PM
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Well that's the last time I'll look to that guy for information, haha. Sorry about the shake-up if there was any. One thought did cross my mind on this subject. I know nothing about the manufacturing process of vehicles, but could there be a possibility that they're already beginning to build the engines somewhere? From differing sources of information on the car, it seems they're changing some parts on the body of the car but is it possible that they've already got the engine and drivetrain plans complete for production? Everyone seems confident that the engine stats that are out are not going to change from the current reports. I don't know, I probably have no point here, I'm just desperately looking for any signs of progress towards the release of the car.
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 10:50 PM
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The Renesis engine is already being used in the open-wheeled Mazda Star racing Series. They had one at SS5. It is not an untested engine.
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 10:42 AM
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Wink

Originally posted by Shoe


Unless they've been used for kamikaze strikes...

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...so that would be Mitsubishi then, right?? Too funny!
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 02:57 PM
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Bullcrap. Who will forget to put seals in the 3rd rotor of a series of engines? Only a fearful Nissan employee. Hahaha.

The rumors will run wild as the RX-8 will put to rest many a car that it will be competing with.

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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 03:34 PM
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For guys with supposedly "inside" information I find it funny that nobody knew that Renesis motors ARE in production! While it is possible to miss seals, Mazda aren't stupid enough to just make a ton of them without actually testing them individually.

If there had have been a stuff-up they would have picked it up on the first motor. Still, it's not like Mazda haven't made mistakes before...

-pete
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 04:17 PM
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Forgetting to put the seals around the second rotor is akin to building a 8 cylinder engine where only 4 cylinders have piston rings...
Ain't going to happen unless the motors are being assembled by drunk inbred sight-challenged chimpanzees.
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Old Oct 30, 2002 | 07:56 AM
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"Ain't going to happen unless the motors are being assembled by drunk inbred sight-challenged chimpanzees."

When did the UAW get to Hiroshima? :D
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 06:31 AM
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Seems too far fetched to be believable.
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Old Nov 3, 2002 | 04:19 PM
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release date

Mazda France confirm the first car in January/feb to show it to the early buyers (including me:o)), and release date for June.

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Old Nov 3, 2002 | 06:34 PM
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So does that mean in Jan or Feb we'll know the prices and option packages the car is going to have?
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 01:51 AM
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Base model will be at around $26,000
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 05:07 PM
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Price is 38K€

We already know it for the "extended" 6 speed version.
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 05:14 PM
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Re: Price is 38K€

Originally posted by Stephan
We already know it for the "extended" 6 speed version.
sorry im a bit dense today and i dont understand your post. could you elaborate?
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 05:40 PM
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ok second try :)

Price is 38k€ for the 250 hp version.

I have a Mazda France Signed invoice (in fact a reservation - booking sheet).

Hope it's more clear
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 06:09 PM
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thanks for clearing that up. can you scan and post that invoice?
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