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exsequor 09-25-2008 01:36 AM

dealer spark plug change
 
Ok so im a busy guy and I don't really even have time to do my plugs unless it really isn't worth it to let the dealer do it. Bob Penkhus Mazda told me that they would do the four plugs installed for $230. Is this a terrible deal? I realize it'd be like $100 for all four plugs online...but time is money for me. I guess it's stupid of me to make this thread asking, but I'm just wondering. Also, the lady there who did a bunch of free warranty repairs for me (I didnt buy the car thru them) said I'd only need to replace the plugs and that the wires shouldn't need replaced for a good while. She also said the ignition coils don't need replaced since the vehicle starts perfectly.

Is she full of shit??

rxaddict 09-25-2008 01:59 AM

How many miles are on the car? How's your idle?
$230 doesn't seem bad from a dealer, but to me is still a steep price to pay.

RedefineRX8 09-25-2008 02:00 AM

yes, that is a terrible deal on the spark plug change. You can change spark plugs in less than 30 minutes. That is actually kind of insulting that they quoted you so high. I would go into the regional forum and ask if a fellow member would be willing to help you out, it will save you a bit.

As for ignition coils, how many miles are on your car? It's recommend to change them around 30k miles, though some have lasted much longer and some died much sooner. 30 is just the average barometer for this kind of thing.

exsequor 09-25-2008 02:10 AM

The idle has always been pretty damn good. A lil bit shakey occasionally but never annoying or something I even noticed.

I bought the car used at 23k miles. I have 45.5k right now. All I've done so far is regular 3k oil changes with 10w30 synthetic once it got hot. I got the car in march and have put a lot of miles on it so far. It was cold in march and I ran 5w20 for the first oil change or two and then switched to the 10w30.

Anyways I have no idea when the coils / plugs have been replaced if ever but not since I've owned it. Should I go ahead and replace them? Are the ignition coils easy too?

exsequor 09-25-2008 02:11 AM

Also. I haven't done anything with the transmission yet. I have checked my fluid like 4 times and every time it's been nice and clear with a hint of pink and it has been full. The transmission shifts smoothly. Is there any reason to have it flushed right now? It hasn't been flushed since I've owned it.

exsequor 09-25-2008 02:13 AM


Originally Posted by RedefineRX8 (Post 2656456)
yes, that is a terrible deal on the spark plug change. You can change spark plugs in less than 30 minutes. That is actually kind of insulting that they quoted you so high. I would go into the regional forum and ask if a fellow member would be willing to help you out, it will save you a bit.

As for ignition coils, how many miles are on your car? It's recommend to change them around 30k miles, though some have lasted much longer and some died much sooner. 30 is just the average barometer for this kind of thing.

Well there is one from the springs I've talked to on here. I don't know how much he'd like to help some 20 year old out with his spark plugs...but imma try him anyways! You know who you are (forgot username lol)!

swoope 09-25-2008 02:16 AM


Originally Posted by exsequor (Post 2656438)
Ok so im a busy guy and I don't really even have time to do my plugs unless it really isn't worth it to let the dealer do it. Bob Penkhus Mazda told me that they would do the four plugs installed for $230. Is this a terrible deal? I realize it'd be like $100 for all four plugs online...but time is money for me. I guess it's stupid of me to make this thread asking, but I'm just wondering. Also, the lady there who did a bunch of free warranty repairs for me (I didnt buy the car thru them) said I'd only need to replace the plugs and that the wires shouldn't need replaced for a good while. She also said the ignition coils don't need replaced since the vehicle starts perfectly.

Is she full of shit??

wow,

time is money.

you know if the car does not start fast..

they might check the coils and plugs.. that is a warranty issue.

you can send the 100bucks of saved money to me.

but really.

beers :beer:

RedefineRX8 09-25-2008 02:17 AM

replace tranny fluid for good measure.

replacing ignition coils is actually easier than replacing spark plugs. A 8 year old could do it, and I'm not poking fun I'm being serious.

RedefineRX8 09-25-2008 02:18 AM

scott.... are you following me around?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?

exsequor 09-25-2008 02:22 AM

So what are you sayin swoope? I should bribe this diane lady from bob penis and then send you $100 so you can put premium gas in your car for a year?

lol but seriously if my car doesn't start fast that's a warranty issue? i convinced this bitch last time to give me free warranty stuff. They did kinda do a lot. But it mostly was like some rattling molding pieces they replaced fo' free.

RedefineRX8 09-25-2008 02:24 AM

you do know that you can multi-quote right? ;)

Swoope is right, that is warranty work. Don't feel bad about bringing you car in for anything warranty related no matter how much stuff you need fixed. Take full advantage now while you still have said warranty

exsequor 09-25-2008 02:26 AM


Originally Posted by RedefineRX8 (Post 2656468)
replace tranny fluid for good measure.

replacing ignition coils is actually easier than replacing spark plugs. A 8 year old could do it, and I'm not poking fun I'm being serious.

lol awesome. No offense taken... I know im not a mechanic. But I am mechanically savvy. More of a geek though. Okay so with the plugs as long as I reach them, get the old ones unscrewed, put anti seize shit on the new ones, and then just tighten them up I'm set?? How about the ignition coils? Am I retarded for asking this? lol Im too lazy to search. Ive lurched too much lol.

RedefineRX8 09-25-2008 02:29 AM


Originally Posted by exsequor (Post 2656478)
lol awesome. No offense taken... I know im not a mechanic. But I am mechanically savvy. More of a geek though. Okay so with the plugs as long as I reach them, get the old ones unscrewed, put anti seize shit on the new ones, and then just tighten them up I'm set?? How about the ignition coils? Am I retarded for asking this? lol Im too lazy to search. Ive lurched too much lol.

Ignition coils are direct plug and play. Just order new coils from www.finishlineperformance.com, do each one individually and be done with it with extra money in your wallet. You literally just need to unplug the top part of the wire on each, remove the coil, replace with new coil, then plug back in the wire. If you do them one by one you also won't screw up which plug goes to leading and trailing, as this is important ;)

PM me if you have any questions or need help.

exsequor 09-25-2008 02:33 AM

Imma go this route if I cant convince diane to warranty me lol...

Ok so let me get this straight there are 2 or 4 ignition coils on my 4 port? I understand spark plugs, cuz i did them on my mazda6 once, but ive never done coils.
<- car mechanic retard

swoope 09-25-2008 03:21 AM


Originally Posted by exsequor (Post 2656484)
Imma go this route if I cant convince diane to warranty me lol...

Ok so let me get this straight there are 2 or 4 ignition coils on my 4 port? I understand spark plugs, cuz i did them on my mazda6 once, but ive never done coils.
<- car mechanic retard

if you say the right words the tsbs do apply...

that tosses the ball in there area..

as to redifine, i think i figured it out. and it sucks to be you! :)

beers :beer:

swoope 09-25-2008 03:22 AM


Originally Posted by exsequor (Post 2656484)
Imma go this route if I cant convince diane to warranty me lol...

Ok so let me get this straight there are 2 or 4 ignition coils on my 4 port? I understand spark plugs, cuz i did them on my mazda6 once, but ive never done coils.
<- car mechanic retard

btw,

4 coils. 2 are the isssue.

beers :beer:

DMRH 09-25-2008 07:43 AM

Spark plugs are a difficult issue to the un-initiated.

The RX-8 plugs are platinum tipped allowing them to last longer than regular plugs. However, dont believe a dealership & let them go for 50,000km

Typical rule of thumb for a rotary is. When fuel consumption starts to soar for no real reason, the plugs are one of the first items to look at.

Coil issue is a well known one. here is a handy link to read about DIY fix.

>>> DIY coil thread <<<

REgards

nycgps 09-25-2008 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by exsequor (Post 2656438)
Ok so im a busy guy and I don't really even have time to do my plugs unless it really isn't worth it to let the dealer do it. Bob Penkhus Mazda told me that they would do the four plugs installed for $230. Is this a terrible deal? I realize it'd be like $100 for all four plugs online...but time is money for me. I guess it's stupid of me to make this thread asking, but I'm just wondering. Also, the lady there who did a bunch of free warranty repairs for me (I didnt buy the car thru them) said I'd only need to replace the plugs and that the wires shouldn't need replaced for a good while. She also said the ignition coils don't need replaced since the vehicle starts perfectly.

Is she full of shit??


that sounds typical for a dealership.

but think of it, you have to drive there, drop the car off, and come back later. that process probably gonna take you 1 hour of time.

So is it really worth it to do so? You gotta think deep.

exsequor 09-25-2008 03:30 PM

well i want to get my wheels completed fixed and recoated and this guy quoted me $300 for all 4 which includes some straightening as well (heating up the wheel). So ill probably just do the plugs and coils myself.


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